IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Saturday, 2012-11-24

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_rdI received a new cssu update, but did not find an entry in the ChangeLog http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog is that not maintained anymore?11:45
kolp_rd: The wiki is currently broken and can't be edited. Changelog is on tmo11:47
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keriofreemangordon: *update poke*12:01
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_rdkolp, many thanks, found it http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1297455&postcount=97212:32
kerioi wonder, should i enable forcerotation?12:39
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DocScrutinizer05insane fools picking $random-other-distro if there's no frequent "updates" no matter WHAT gets actually updated17:51
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merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: tmo is bad for your health17:52
DocScrutinizer05"I don't care what the OS looks like, and what gets done, I WANT an update twice a month or I'll find some other OS that provides such updates"17:52
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DocScrutinizer05[2012-11-23 19:09:19] <tilou> cause i am thinking to move to nemo if there isn't update anymore17:52
merlin1991ah wait that was on irc :D17:53
DocScrutinizer05I think those users are better off with gentoo, or probably best they switch to WoW or some other RPG17:54
PaliDocScrutinizer05, you wanted to know about new 0xFFFF... I created TMO thread17:54
DocScrutinizer05Pali: nice :-d And thanks for telling me about tmo thread, which would've gone unnonitced by me otherwise18:00
DocScrutinizer05unnoticed*18:00
DocScrutinizer05and :-D18:00
Palilink: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8799618:00
DocScrutinizer05:-)))18:01
DocScrutinizer05bookmarked18:01
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DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: I gather you rolled T6 recently?18:08
merlin1991yesterday18:09
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: /topic. tmo announcement? Talked to GAN/Jaffa about MWKN?18:09
merlin1991hm topic is a good idea18:09
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*** merlin1991 changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo6; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1"18:10
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merlin1991regarding tmo: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1297455&postcount=97218:11
DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1297455#post1297455  (I hate those other single-post-links, esp since my theme does format:center)18:13
merlin1991I didn't find the anchor, and there is no button to easily get an anchored link :/18:14
DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1297539#post129753918:14
DocScrutinizer05(there is)18:15
merlin1991where?18:15
merlin1991(button, not anchor)18:15
DocScrutinizer05should we answer this in a more generic way? Like "generally it's not recommended to 'downgrade' to any other CSSU-$x flavour from CSSU-thumb" ?18:15
merlin1991huh?18:16
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DocScrutinizer05in single post view, the upper-right (in my theme) link to thread18:16
merlin1991true, but one has to go to single thread view first xD18:16
DocScrutinizer05yep18:17
DocScrutinizer05sucks18:17
merlin1991cssu-thumb delibertly runs with postfix versions on top of testing in order for thumb users to be able to update to latest testing when it gets out, due to possible important update18:17
DocScrutinizer05>>Quick question, should this update be avoided if currently running CSSU Thumb version?<<18:17
DocScrutinizer05mhm18:18
DocScrutinizer05so we should post this answer then - alas I dunno where from you quoted that, if you quoted at all18:18
DocScrutinizer05anyway the answer by hxka is a tad fuzzy and overly terse18:19
merlin1991though essentially correct :D18:19
DocScrutinizer05"it depends..." also is a correct answer to almost every question ;-P18:20
merlin1991btw I didn't quote ;)18:20
DocScrutinizer05so would you bother to post your fine comment to that tmo thread, as answer to makyboyuk's question?18:21
merlin1991didn't freemangordon answer at some point?18:21
merlin1991ah wait it's the last post there18:21
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DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1297539#post1297539 asked _you_, I think it's ok when _you_ answer, in a less terse way than hxka18:23
DocScrutinizer05or freemangordon might even be the more appropriate candidate for answering, but since question was addressed at you...18:24
Palimerlin1991, if you have scratchbox working, can you build & push battery & profile menu applet to cssu-devel?18:25
merlin1991Pali: okay, will do that later when I can reboot18:26
Paliafter update to ubuntu 12.10 aqemu (gui for qemu) crashing after startup so I have problem to start my scratchbox in virtual machine...18:26
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Palihttps://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-area-applet-battery18:27
Palihttps://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-status-menu-applet-profiles18:27
* DocScrutinizer05 now muses how to re-enable proper updates (install cssu-MP) while keeping stock camera-ui and procps18:31
DocScrutinizer05fsckng PITA18:31
DocScrutinizer05the more I'm wondering what's so great about frequent updates so somebody would consider switching to nemo if not every other week an update ships for CSSU-T, no matter if there's *anything* in that update that's really relevant to that person18:34
DocScrutinizer05must be some sort of masochism paired with boredom18:35
tadzikdon't worry, they'll soon see nemo's battery life18:35
DocScrutinizer05lol, right18:35
DocScrutinizer05back to my initial problem...18:36
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: any suggestions?18:36
tadzikpeople probably feel insecure about using a "dead platform" and feel better if there are updates every second day18:36
merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: well I'd install fake packages to make apt and ham happy :D18:37
DocScrutinizer05I for one feel most insecure with using an immature platform that needs updates every second day ;-P18:37
merlin1991empty busybox-symlinks-procps that has no conflicts and highe version number18:37
merlin1991and original camera ui repacked with high version number18:37
merlin1991actually re camera-ui18:38
DocScrutinizer05sounds like a plan, that fails when it comes to my lacking packaging knowhow18:38
merlin1991just edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and pimp its version with an epoch (add 1: at the start)18:38
DocScrutinizer05I already considered restoring /var/*/(dpkg|.*apt.*)/* to a state where MP been installed and no procps and camera-ui caused conflicts18:40
DocScrutinizer05while keeping the binaries18:40
* DocScrutinizer05 feels nausea around the corner18:41
DocScrutinizer05honestly, could we maybe take a weekend's time to think about MP and possible alternatives?18:42
DocScrutinizer05wtf needs cssu-t6-MP depend on camera-ui at all? or on ps, resp conflict with procps?18:43
DocScrutinizer05this whole MP concept is so damn braindamaged in my book18:44
Palimerlin1991, see: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/alarmd/merge_requests/118:45
Pali(I used alarmd for testing my script git-import-dscs)18:45
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