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| kerio | neat | 00:15 |
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| luf | kerio: do you want to test it? | 00:15 |
| kerio | luf: nope.jpg | 00:15 |
| kerio | i'm about to go to sleep | 00:15 |
| kerio | you're too slow | 00:15 |
| luf | kerio: I see one problem (crash) when trying specific way to connect to bluez-4.66 (on RHEL). No problem with another N900 or bluez-4.98 ... | 00:16 |
| luf | kerio: as usual. You're not the one who say it to me ;) | 00:17 |
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| luf | merlin1991: ping me before packaging obexd for new -testing. I add new patch which needs more tests. I'm not sure how fast I can fully test it. | 12:58 |
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| luf | merlin1991: It's client part change which isn't actively used and it works againist N900. So no ping is needed. | 17:09 |
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| kerio | luf: gimme package bro | 18:22 |
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| luf | kerio :) I found one problem and I need to fix it. You come late ;) | 18:26 |
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| freemangordon | luf: is that the last one? | 18:27 |
| luf | freemangordon: I hope so :) But you know even bluez is full of bugs. | 18:27 |
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| freemangordon | luf BTW why there is no source code on gitorious? or I am missing something | 18:28 |
| luf | BTW this is the bug for which bluez developers provide patch day or two ago :) | 18:28 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 18:28 |
| kerio | yay upstream ^_^ | 18:28 |
| luf | You don't miss anything. | 18:28 |
| luf | And I think their bug contains another bug :D But they only said that N900 usecase is too old. | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | fuck upstream :( | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | and what is their "newer" usecase? | 18:29 |
| luf | I use aroun 150 patches for bluez-4.99. And it's almost fixes. | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | iphone 5? | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | luf: I hope those are in /debian/pathces | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | *p[atches | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | aaah | 18:30 |
| luf | freemangordon: connecting/disconnecting - crash bluetoothd (I face it with org.bluez.AudioSource.Connect) | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | you mean when n900 is audio sink? | 18:31 |
| luf | freemangordon: yes I changed just debian subdirectory | 18:31 |
| luf | freemangordon: yes. Maybe also AudioSource. | 18:31 |
| luf | I'm not fully sure about that. | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | hmm, sounds nasty | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | BTW we should provide UI at some point | 18:32 |
| luf | No it doesn't crash but I can connect/disconnect with bluez-4.66 (RHEL) only once. Then I'm always rejected :D | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | aah, I se | 18:32 |
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| freemangordon | see* | 18:32 |
| luf | freemangordon: Sure GUI will be needed for PAN too :) | 18:33 |
| luf | *Now | 18:33 |
| freemangordon | PAN is easy, i've done BT UI pligin for BT HID. But audio sounds like tricky one | 18:33 |
| luf | I haven't test it with newer bluez (I have newer at home computer). | 18:33 |
| kerio | is there a way to make a new type of connection in ICD2? | 18:34 |
| freemangordon | yes | 18:34 |
| luf | PAN? It needs bridge and send some dbus for activation. | 18:34 |
| kerio | can we do that for PAN networks? | 18:34 |
| freemangordon | kerio: google for BT dummy maemo | 18:34 |
| luf | kerio: No idea. I need to compile bridge support as kernel module first. | 18:34 |
| kerio | not dummy connections | 18:34 |
| kerio | actual connections in the UI | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | luf: wait. why do we need bridge? | 18:35 |
| luf | freemangordon: newer bluez has complete PAN support included and it uses bridge device. | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | but what 4.66 uses then? | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | as it has PAN support too | 18:36 |
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| luf | 4.60 (in maemo) and it's old and it uses iptables - another kernel module ... | 18:36 |
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| luf | I think more about it and bridge seems to me like good solution. Easier then iptables. | 18:36 |
| freemangordon | but what for? | 18:36 |
| kerio | what bridge? | 18:36 |
| kerio | between what? | 18:36 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 18:37 |
| luf | between incoming bnepX devices and the uplink to the internet ;) | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | it is not bluetoothd job to mess with the routing | 18:37 |
| kerio | luf: hell no | 18:37 |
| kerio | freemangordon: :nod: | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | luf: you'd better disable that part somehow | 18:37 |
| luf | No PAN support? | 18:38 |
| luf | Come on ... | 18:38 |
| kerio | no automatic sharing | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | it is up to "network manager" to deal with routes and such | 18:38 |
| kerio | because that's fucking bullshit | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | luf: no auto sharing | 18:38 |
| luf | freemangordon: :D You're wrong with even current PAN. | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | luf: IIRC I am not. you just got bnepX interface | 18:39 |
| luf | Sure no auto sharing. We have to create some GUI for some settings. | 18:39 |
| freemangordon | and it is up to you to create NAT, bridge or whatever you want to be done | 18:39 |
| luf | Are we talking about N900 as NAP? | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | you == UI | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | yes | 18:40 |
| kerio | oh right, PAN isn't truly peer-to-peer, is it | 18:40 |
| luf | So you need UI to setup NAT/bridge/... It's not the change. | 18:40 |
| luf | bluez doesn't create bridge. | 18:41 |
| luf | bluez only get bridge device as parameter. | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | aah, but why you want to include bridge module then? | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | luf: you lost me here :D | 18:41 |
| luf | The code is in bluez upstream (not mine). bluez-4.99/network - you can take a look | 18:41 |
| kerio | luf: what about doing PANU or GN? | 18:41 |
| luf | freemangordon: because NAP support in bluez can only use bridge. | 18:42 |
| kerio | NAP requires to share some upstream connection | 18:42 |
| kerio | it's like the definition | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | kerio: hmm, wait, ,aybe luf has a point. PAN is supposed to share inet connection | 18:42 |
| kerio | luf: what about PANU? | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | NAP* | 18:42 |
| kerio | what about GN? | 18:42 |
| luf | kerio: maybe I miss something but I don't see how to create just PANU. | 18:42 |
| luf | or GN :( | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | PANU? | 18:43 |
| kerio | freemangordon: PAN-U is the user, you connect to a PAN-NAP and you get internet from that | 18:43 |
| luf | There is nearly no info about it :( | 18:43 |
| kerio | PAN-GN connects to other PAN-GNs in a shared network, but no one shares "upstream" connections | 18:43 |
| kerio | PAN-NAP shares the connection to every connected PAN-U | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | well, AIUI what we need here is GN | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | and IIRC stock does that | 18:44 |
| kerio | i'm not sure they're that much different | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | auto-share thingie | 18:44 |
| luf | There is this fucking if for creating SDP record (no idea why):: | 18:44 |
| luf | if (g_strcmp0(uuid, "nap")) return btd_error_failed(msg, "Invalid UUID"); | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | luf: we cannot enable auto-share, as we don;t really know what interface should be used. withou UI that is | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | luf: please, upload that stuff on gitorious | 18:46 |
| freemangordon | so we can share common sources | 18:46 |
| luf | Sure. As I said bluez doesn't create bridge device. It needs something else create it and activate NAP support with such bridge as parameter. | 18:46 |
| luf | freemangordon: under cssu? | 18:46 |
| freemangordon | sure, why not | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | after all obexd and such are there | 18:47 |
| luf | I think I don't have permissions to create new projecct. | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | me too | 18:47 |
| luf | BTW I'm using bluez-4.99 from bluez.org. | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | pathches? | 18:48 |
| luf | merlin1991: please create bluez on gitourious. | 18:48 |
| luf | A lot of but nothing really important for this initialization part. | 18:48 |
| merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/bluez | 18:49 |
| freemangordon | that was fast :D:D:D | 18:49 |
| luf | merlin1991: Ok, it's my turn now. | 18:51 |
| freemangordon | luf: it's been like that all the time :P | 18:51 |
| luf | I have to find the way I did it last time. Get the reference from bluez.git and add my changes. | 18:52 |
| luf | merlin1991: I forgot. Thanks. | 18:52 |
| luf | merlin1991: And what about pulseaudio on gitourious? | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | yeah, I need that too | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | for -thumb | 18:52 |
| luf | I need it for AudioSink support with loopback device. | 18:53 |
| merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio | 18:54 |
| luf | Great. It's like some script listening our requests :D | 18:54 |
| merlin1991 | hrhr | 18:54 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: by looking at what arcean has changed, right now we have a memory leak in h-d | 18:54 |
| merlin1991 | that's kinda vague :D | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | or maybe I am wrong | 18:56 |
| luf | Unfortunately I'll continue tomorrow or on Sunday :( | 18:56 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: yeah, I am wrong | 18:57 |
| merlin1991 | luf btw whatabotu obexd does it have a problem now or not? | 18:59 |
| luf | merlin1991: Nothing confirmed. | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | hmm, maybe I should RE mce | 19:00 |
| * merlin1991 looks into the bright future where freemangordon has REd 100% of the closed blobs in maemo | 19:00 | |
| merlin1991 | :D | 19:00 |
| merlin1991 | we just need the thelephony stack :/ | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | hmm, lemme see | 19:01 |
| freemangordon | naah, no x86 binary :( | 19:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ofono should work, why you need the telephony stack | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | *shouldÜ | 19:07 |
| merlin1991 | well dunno as long as it works :D | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | well, AFAIK it works | 19:07 |
| merlin1991 | I'd love to ship a full blown cssu fisaco image that has 0% closed blobs and works :D | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 19:07 |
| merlin1991 | because that's the only way we can ship a fiasco image :D | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | rtcom-messaging-ui.launch is 520k x86 code | 19:08 |
| merlin1991 | well if we replace thelephony with ofono then we don't have to use the old messaging ui | 19:08 |
| merlin1991 | we just need to write our own telepathy client then :D | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | hmm, IM is there too afaik | 19:09 |
| merlin1991 | well im is done by telepathy | 19:09 |
| merlin1991 | the messaging ui is only the front end | 19:09 |
| merlin1991 | which in that case uses open interfaces to telepathy | 19:09 |
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| merlin1991 | it's only weird for the sms stuff | 19:09 |
| merlin1991 | and skype ofc | 19:09 |
| freemangordon | can't we use the dialer from nemo? | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | abook is FOSS | 19:10 |
| merlin1991 | doesn't that one depend on closed blobs aswell? | 19:10 |
| merlin1991 | (nemo dialer) | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | dunno | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | but I think it is on top of ofono | 19:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hey, I think I've read about proper testing, when maemo4 been young. They explained how to test for memleaks and whatnot else, maybe we should try to find that nice article (if it wasn't a dream) | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: wel,, it is that I just misread the code | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter. We simply have _no_ proper testing anymorew | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we don't even have a best practice white paper | 19:23 |
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| merlin1991 | don't you worry, you'll get your guine pig repo with this release of -testing | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | ??? | 19:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | won't substitute valgrind, lint etc, but nevertheless a good move | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | care to elaborate | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I guess on a clean fresh install you could even compare behaviour to a reference engine | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/engine/system/. | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just that you'd need a stresstest, to shoo all the potential offenders during 2 or 3 days, all the time, and stay mentally sane during that | 19:28 |
| merlin1991 | fell happy to develop test cases and scripts ;) | 19:29 |
| merlin1991 | s/happy/free/ | 19:29 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: fell free to develop test cases and scripts ;) | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: we'll test the rollout, absolutely RL, just with a "hidden" repo URL | 19:29 |
| merlin1991 | and a tiny bit of pkg foo | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | very good idea | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shot our own foot too often | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 19:30 |
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| freemangordon | yeah | 19:31 |
| merlin1991 | I bet kerio wants in on the hidden repo ;) | 19:32 |
| kerio | ...maaaaaybe | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | requirement: "attach medical modality OCTOPUS301 with PeriTrend and EyeSuite to a database network" -- verbatim, and no additional specs from customer | 19:33 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 headdesks | 19:33 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the fun just starts when you find OCTOPUS301/311 in google | 19:34 |
| merlin1991 | pr0n? | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, IT pr0n | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | Haag Octopus 301/311 perimeter machines?!? | 19:35 |
| freemangordon | WTF is that? | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HL7 | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: after 1/2 day I found out it checks your rhetina for blind spots | 19:36 |
| freemangordon | hmmm, you're fast | 19:36 |
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| luf | Does anybody knows about maemo bluez git? Or can I just take the one from bluez.org? | 23:24 |
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