IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Friday, 2012-08-17

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merlin1991freemangordon: do you still need the gitorious repo?10:32
freemangordonmerlin1991: yep10:32
merlin1991and hildon-im-vkbrenderer is the name you want?10:33
freemangordonunfortunately vkbrenderer won't be enough :(10:33
freemangordonmerlin1991: hold on, will check10:33
freemangordonmerlin1991: hildon-im-vkbrenderer310:33
merlin1991btw what does this part do that vkbrenderer doesn't?10:34
freemangordonmerlin1991: for proper portrait support hildon_western_fkb.so needs to be REed too10:34
freemangordonmerlin1991: cannot parse, could you rephrase10:35
merlin1991what does hildon-im-vkbrenderer do?10:35
freemangordondraws the buttons10:36
merlin1991and vkbrendere does what then?10:36
freemangordonmerlin1991: renders the virtual keyboard :D10:36
freemangordonthose are one and the same thing10:36
merlin1991why the hildon-im name then?10:37
merlin1991original packge nameß10:37
merlin1991s/ß/?/10:37
infobotmerlin1991 meant: original packge name?10:37
freemangordonyes10:37
merlin1991https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-im-vkbrenderer310:37
freemangordonBTW check it with apt-cache, just to be sure10:37
freemangordonmerlin1991: thanks10:38
merlin1991hm what should I put in the description?10:38
freemangordonyou can take it from meamo repos10:38
freemangordonVirtual Keyboard Widget for for the Hildon Input Method10:38
freemangordonThis package provides virtual keyboard widget.10:38
freemangordonthat is from debian/control10:38
freemangordondamn, I have a double for :D10:39
merlin1991okay, I added the desciption10:40
merlin1991btw hildon_western_fkb.so is part of which package?10:40
freemangordonSource: hildon-input-method-plugins10:40
freemangordonadd that too, I am REing it10:41
merlin1991hey when there is a Source: line then there ususally is some source around10:41
freemangordonyep, the one I write :D10:41
freemangordonthat is from my package debian/control10:41
freemangordonbut I copied it from the original10:42
merlin1991I meant where is it from originally10:42
freemangordonin repos, but no source package10:42
merlin1991also I'll have to unpack the other firmware images, because I fear there'll be something like hildon_arabic_fkb.so or similar10:42
freemangordonmerlin1991: don't think, but you could be right10:43
freemangordonmerlin1991: hildon-im-fkb is the binary package name10:43
merlin1991hm all hildon-im-fkb packages have only the _western_ library10:47
merlin1991I guess there is no nonwestern virtual keyboard10:48
freemangordonyeah, sounds sane, as keyboard layout is rendered using .vkb files10:48
merlin1991btw next time marmistrz shows up, please tell him that I'm currently on vacation and my internet access is flaky at best10:50
freemangordonmerlin1991: pushed10:52
merlin1991did you test it already?10:52
freemangordonyep, works ok10:53
merlin1991next up portrait ;)10:53
freemangordonnext up is hildon_western_fkb.so ;)10:53
merlin1991how long did it take you to re it?10:53
freemangordonRE that is10:53
freemangordonmerlin1991: a week or so10:53
freemangordonthere is x86 binary in SDK, so I can use HexRays10:54
freemangordonwithout it it will take 2-3 months ;)10:54
freemangordonmerlin1991: BTW you may want to look for someone who will implement portrait support, I am not good enough with GTK to do it properly10:55
merlin1991hehe, shortcut, though is the package version in the sdk same as on device?10:55
freemangordonnikolai could do the job10:55
freemangordonmerlin1991: I get versions from the device10:56
merlin1991I'll try to contact him10:56
freemangordonaah, yeah, they are the same10:56
merlin1991good10:56
freemangordonmerlin1991: you could build the package and test it, you'll see no difference (hopefully)10:56
merlin1991would have been bad if we have a RE of something slightly different than the original on device :D10:56
freemangordonmerlin1991: does not matter now we have the source10:57
merlin1991yeah but it's still hard to find out *what* is different for people like me :D10:57
freemangordonBTW I am wondering is it a good idea to put IDA database somewhere, jonwil might get interested10:58
freemangordonas there are still some code cleanups to be done, priv->field_28; for example :D10:58
merlin1991maybe share it with him directly, the RE source already is a grey area, but I suppose nokia would have something against the IDA database avaiable to everyone10:59
merlin1991hehe pric->field_28, sounds like the average c# decompile10:59
freemangordonmerlin1991: there is bootloader IDA database available :D10:59
merlin1991int int1, int2, int3;11:00
freemangordonnot exactly for n900, but still11:00
merlin1991and then one goes WTF? :D11:00
merlin1991battery is going to die any minute now, anything you still need from me?11:01
freemangordonmerlin1991: no, i tried to do my best, most of the variable names are ok, but some bools I didn't understand11:01
freemangordonmerlin1991: hildon-input-method-plugins11:01
freemangordonon gitorious11:01
merlin1991https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-input-method-plugins11:02
freemangordonthanks, though it will take time to put something there :D11:02
merlin1991sure :D11:03
freemangordonmerlin1991: I will upload IDA db on your server11:03
freemangordonok?11:03
merlin1991okay, but if I get evil worded letters from nokia I'll take it down :D11:03
freemangordonok :D11:03
merlin1991okay, gtg now hf :)11:06
freemangordonbb11:06
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Palimerlin1991, all changes to cssu-devel are here: http://pastebin.com/tmfrMH7G13:09
Palifor each package is here changelog13:09
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kerioi thought operator-name-cbs-widget was only a transitional package14:42
kerio* Automatically enable USB network in PC Suite mode14:43
keriohow?14:43
kerio*  Exit apt-worker after closing hildon-application-manager14:43
keriohmm, what if stuff gets corrupted?14:43
Palikerio, operator-name-cbs-widget is now transitional deb package, but also name of git repository and name of dsc package15:13
Paliauto usb network - just call ifup usb0, dsnmasq (as dhcp server) and if iptables can be used also nat15:14
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Paliapt-worker should quit when HAM is closed15:15
Palibut there are some bugs which cause that apt-worked still running...15:15
kent_autisticproper portrait mode vkb yaaaaaaay! :)15:15
Paliand only way how to use apt-get or HAM again is to reboot device15:15
lufPali: why dnsmasq? I don't want my N900 to be dhcp server ...15:16
Paliluf, it listen only on usb015:17
Pali(in pc suite mode)15:17
kerioluf: that's what i fucking said15:18
keriobut nooooooooo15:18
kent_autisticbug in cssu camera: when in action mode and flash turned off.  flash still lits up when camera button is pressed.15:18
Paliversion?15:18
keriowe gotta have stupid autoconfiguration that fucks up the networks15:18
keriothere is a well-defined way to get point-to-point connections over ethernet15:19
keriolink local addresses15:20
kerionot a fucking dhcp server on one of the sides that gives an IP that could conflict with loads of shit on the other host and that also enables a weird NAT that screws up with ICD215:20
kerioi don't even15:22
lufPali: is it possible to disable (or even better) not enable such dnsmasq feature?15:22
kerio* Allow executing applications and shell scripts on fat partitions <- removal of noexec on the automounter?15:23
Palike-recv is still only in cssu-devel15:24
PaliI can add some options how to configure it15:24
Palikerio, from awk script which generate fstab15:25
kerioPali: does osso-xterm have a settings menu now?15:25
keriofor the extra settings15:25
kerioor is it still just hidden gconf settings?15:25
Palisettings are in Font & something dialog15:25
keriowell, "hidden"15:25
Paliit is visible15:26
kerioneat15:26
Pali(but also via gconf)15:26
PaliI want to rename "Font" dialog name (to "Settings"), but we do not have translations...15:27
lufPali: +1 for some config options (default without dhcp) as kerio said it should breake the host routes.15:29
lufI think that translator.google com is good enough for such word as Settings.15:29
Paliok15:30
kerioPali: look for other translations of "settings"15:30
lufI never enter Font menu part ... :D15:30
Paliluf, what is problem with enabling dhcp server (which is part of maemo, no extra package) on interface usb0 when pc suite mode is active? it always offers only one same ip address15:32
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Pali/etc/network/interfaces usb0 has 192.168.2.15 and dhcp offer to client 192.168.2.1415:33
lufAnd what should the PC/client do when 192.168.2.14 is the main server or default gateway?15:34
kerioand what should the PC/client do when 192.168.2.x is an used subnet?15:38
kerioDocScrutinizer05: please help15:47
kerioanyway, it's not CSSU material15:49
kerioke-recv already does automounting, so extending that is fine15:49
keriobecause you can't exactly add that with an extra package15:49
keriobut autoconfiguring a network interface in a flaky way is definetely *not* stuff that should be added lightly15:50
kerioespecially considering that mobilehotspot and qtmobilehotspot support usb connection sharing already, so you can do that in an easy way without having to tweak ke-recv15:50
lufWhere can I find virtual guest for N9 development like the one for N900?15:51
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keriohm, maybe DocScrutinizer51?15:58
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Pali192.168.2.15 and 192.168.2.14 is default configuration in maemo. it can be changed in /etc/network/interfaces16:23
PaliI will add some config file for other options16:23
Paliat least part of ke-recv is stuff around g_nokia and g_nokia provide usb network automatically16:24
kerionow, something i'd like would be an interface to load g_ether16:26
kerioso i don't need to enable the nokia crap for usb networking16:26
DocScrutinizer51would you please check PC connectivity manager (app for diablo / maemo4)16:27
kerioDocScrutinizer51: people want to add weird stuff to CSSU! help!16:28
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keriofukken LOL17:36
kerioconnui-cellular-home shows no operator name for me17:36
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kerio(from community-devel)17:36
keriogood job on the fix, it doesn't display a wrong name anymore17:37
keriowhy do we need a change in connui-home-cellular again?17:37
kerioor whatever it's called17:40
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Palikerio, reboot device & check settings in control pannel17:42
Palithere is support for overwrite operator name17:42
Paliempty string = no overwrite17:42
Palikerio, if you have then still problems ask jonwil - he changed that code17:42
PaliI only fixed packaging...17:43
kerioPali: it's the same problem as before, only now it displays nothing instead of a wrong name17:43
kerioit's better, arguably17:43
keriobut still17:43
kerioPali: rebooting will definetely fix it17:44
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kerioi shouldn't have to, though17:44
jon_ycan't sighup to restart just the applet?17:44
Palikerio, if you will have still problems enable operator logs & reboot device17:44
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keriojon_y: the problem stays even after uninstall and reinstall17:45
kerio(and killing hildon-home)17:45
jon_y:(17:45
kerioconnui-home-cellular 2.118+0m5 works fine17:45
Palikerio, or try: sudo stop sscd; sleep 5; sudo start sscd17:46
keriowhat's sscd?17:46
Palidaemon which handle cellular chip17:46
kerioi see17:46
Palithis will totally disable cellular network17:46
Pali(stopping csd is not enought)17:47
Paliif you switch to tablet mode and then back to phone it will not ask pin code - so cellular modem was not turned off17:47
Palibut if you stop sscd and start it again it will ask pin code17:47
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kerioi see17:53
keriohaha17:53
kerioit showed the operator name after i reinstalled connui-home-cellular from -devel17:53
keriobut after cycling sscd the bug came back17:54
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Palikerio, I need log from cbs widget17:56
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Palialso log from dbus-monitor --system can be usefull17:56
Palimaybe maemo daemons do not inform about operator name17:56
Paligconf keys: /apps/connui-cellular/logging_enabled and /apps/connui-cellular/name_logging_enabled17:58
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kerioPali: do you know your way around the code?18:00
kerioi can just wait for jonwil, he seemed to have an idea about what was wrong the last time18:00
kerioi'll just reinstall the 0m5 package18:01
kerioyour time is best spent working on bme-rx51-replacement c:18:01
jon_ywhy? was it in java? :)18:02
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DocScrutinizer05err what? ssc = suplementary service code AFAIK21:18
DocScrutinizer05sscd should be a plugin for csd then, that handles stuff like "*#67#"21:18
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, seems it's just csd -p ss21:22
DocScrutinizer05not -p ssc21:22
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DocScrutinizer05Pali: kerio: initctl stop sscd; initctl start sscd23:07
DocScrutinizer05aah, sorry for the noise, that's actually what pali suggested23:09
DocScrutinizer05though I guess pali is wrong about modem not being off conclusion from not asking for PIN. AFAIK the PIN is stored in linux phone lib stack23:11
DocScrutinizer05and just re-used when going airplane->normalmode23:11
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Sicelo~/sb end23:52
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