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| Pali | ping freemangordon | 12:06 |
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| Pali | I will delete all Provides from kernel-power-bootimg package | 12:07 |
| Pali | I did not got any responce from X-Fade or Council, I will try to push kp50r2 to extras-devel | 12:07 |
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| ivgalvez | ~seen pali | 13:32 |
| infobot | pali <~pali@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 1h 25m 7s ago, saying: 'I did not got any responce from X-Fade or Council, I will try to push kp50r2 to extras-devel'. | 13:32 |
| ivgalvez | pali ping | 13:33 |
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| ivgalvez | pali ping | 14:23 |
| Pali | ivgalvez, pong | 14:23 |
| jonwil | ok, time to start working on my libcal and wl1251-cal clones :) | 14:23 |
| Pali | jonwil, nice :-) | 14:24 |
| Pali | jonwil, that your bluetooth app doing all what nokias? | 14:24 |
| jonwil | yes | 14:24 |
| ivgalvez | regarding kp50r2 | 14:24 |
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| jonwil | The nokia script simply grabs the bluetooth MAC address from CAL and sends it to /sys/blah | 14:25 |
| jonwil | which is what mine does | 14:25 |
| jonwil | except the Nokia one uses sysinfo whereas mine does not | 14:26 |
| Pali | jonwil, maybe document "cert-npc" CAL area will be usefull | 14:26 |
| jonwil | I dont know anything more about it other than what is covered by that code | 14:26 |
| ivgalvez | we are waiting for X-Fade top grant administrative privileges for repositories to merlin1991, once done he might be better capable to fix all these annoyances with promotion of packages | 14:26 |
| jonwil | well there is also the WiFi MAC address in there | 14:26 |
| Pali | ivgalvez, do you know when it will be? | 14:26 |
| ivgalvez | it should have been a week ago | 14:27 |
| ivgalvez | you know | 14:27 |
| ivgalvez | I'm insisting | 14:27 |
| Pali | jonwil, maybe some wiki page about CAL data will be usefull | 14:27 |
| ivgalvez | maybe X-Fade is on vacaition, woody14619 will try to reach him as well | 14:28 |
| Pali | jonwil, something like "cert-npc" area has bluetooth mac address after "BT_ID" string | 14:28 |
| Pali | ivgalvez, ok | 14:28 |
| Pali | I will wait with kernel-power | 14:28 |
| jonwil | yes it does | 14:29 |
| jonwil | Thats where I am reading it frrom | 14:29 |
| jonwil | WiFi MAC address is there also | 14:29 |
| jonwil | I found it by disassembling libsysinfo.so | 14:29 |
| Pali | ok, can you write documentation for it? | 14:30 |
| jonwil | not really :P | 14:30 |
| jonwil | Let me know if you hear anything from those Nokia people about the BME temperature calculation | 14:30 |
| Pali | jonwil, my email for forwared to other n900 bme dev | 14:31 |
| Pali | but no answer yet | 14:31 |
| jonwil | ok | 14:32 |
| jonwil | :) | 14:32 |
| jonwil | I also made a few changes to my operator-name-cbs-widget last night | 14:36 |
| jonwil | mostly at the suggestion of DocScrutinizer | 14:36 |
| jonwil | and also to fix what looks like a possible issue with some people getting the wrong operator name | 14:36 |
| jonwil | Doc said something about getting it into cssu-devel but I dont have a clue how to do that | 14:37 |
| kerio | ^_^ | 14:37 |
| kerio | jonwil: do you have a .deb for me to install yet? | 14:37 |
| jonwil | I dont have a .deb handy but the code is there if someone wants to build this guy a deb | 14:38 |
| kerio | Pali: what's new in 51r2? | 14:38 |
| jonwil | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/operator-name-cbs-widget | 14:38 |
| jonwil | Thats the git repo | 14:38 |
| jonwil | and this one | 14:38 |
| jonwil | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libconnui-dev | 14:38 |
| Pali | kerio, deleted Provides line for -bootimg package | 14:38 |
| kerio | Pali: hm, why? | 14:38 |
| kerio | and how will the uboot people install cssu thumb? | 14:38 |
| Pali | because HAM and apt-get prefer to install -bootimg package instead -flasher | 14:38 |
| Pali | kerio, reinstalling uboot flasher package will flash uboot | 14:39 |
| kerio | hm, what if you make the cssu thumb metapackage depend on kernel-power-flasher | kernel-feature-whatever-errata? | 14:39 |
| kerio | Pali: yeah but the deps won't be met | 14:39 |
| Pali | kerio, it still install kernel-power-bootimg :-( | 14:39 |
| Pali | freemangordon thinks it is because bootimg (B) is before flasher (F) | 14:40 |
| jonwil | I wish I had a complete list of all the valid gconf keys under /system/osso/connectivity :( | 14:43 |
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| kerio | Pali: kernel-power-flasher < kernel-power-image | 15:25 |
| kerio | :) | 15:25 |
| Pali | kerio, renaming packages is not good idea... | 15:25 |
| kerio | i mean, the only reason -thumb works is because it's greater than -testing | 15:25 |
| kerio | Pali: why not? | 15:26 |
| kerio | people who install kernel images don't upgrade blindly anyway | 15:26 |
| Pali | because HAM does not support Replaces | 15:26 |
| kerio | it also doesn't support not being slow as molasses | 15:26 |
| Pali | kerio, we have already problems with maemo repositories... | 15:27 |
| Pali | and I do not want to do other experiments... | 15:27 |
| kerio | "screw you guys, i'll make my own repositories! with blackjack and hookers!" | 15:27 |
| kerio | i really wish extras-devel added pdiffs, btw | 15:28 |
| kerio | :c | 15:28 |
| kerio | 9mb for each update is painful, on a mobile connection | 15:28 |
| kerio | hm, is compcache worth it? | 15:29 |
| kerio | ooh, what's "kbd" for? | 15:30 |
| jonwil | Is there still some sort of planing going on for what happens when Nokia decides to stop supporting the infrastructure? | 15:34 |
| kerio | donate *all* the money! _ò/ | 15:35 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, it is possible to create new menu entry for usb disks/mmc cards to umount it (in file manager)? | 16:22 |
| Pali | if menu is implemented in osso gvfs or gtk/hildon libs then it should be possible | 16:22 |
| kerio | what unmounts stuff when you remove the backcover? | 16:27 |
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| Pali | kerio, nobody | 16:32 |
| Pali | this is reason why I want to have umount button | 16:32 |
| kerio | Pali: there's an autounmounter | 16:32 |
| Pali | kerio, when you remove backcover it automatically power down SD card | 16:32 |
| Pali | and after some seconds ke-recv will umount it (+ show messages that ext journal cannnot be cleaned....) | 16:33 |
| kerio | ...what the fuck | 16:33 |
| kerio | really? | 16:33 |
| Pali | yes | 16:33 |
| kerio | i thought it was just an unmount | 16:33 |
| kerio | is it a physical thing? or is it a kernel thing? | 16:33 |
| kerio | can it be disabled? it's fucking stupid | 16:33 |
| freemangordon | Pali: afaik it is filemanager | 16:33 |
| freemangordon | closed source :( | 16:34 |
| Pali | freemangordon, yes filemanager closed, but mmc names are in some open library | 16:34 |
| Pali | kerio, not possible to disable | 16:34 |
| kerio | are you sure? | 16:35 |
| kerio | it's dumb as hell | 16:35 |
| freemangordon | Pali: but how to create a new menu entry? | 16:35 |
| freemangordon | without having the source code | 16:35 |
| kerio | meh, i'll have to go the Estel_ route and glue a magnet to the back cover | 16:35 |
| kerio | now that i'm using swap on sd too | 16:35 |
| Pali | freemangordon, maybe menu is in some open hildon/gtk/gvfs library too | 16:36 |
| freemangordon | Pali: don;t think so | 16:36 |
| Pali | ok | 16:36 |
| freemangordon | hmm, context menu? | 16:36 |
| kerio | automounting with no GUI for umount is lame, imo | 16:37 |
| freemangordon | but we are bunch of lamers, what do you expect | 16:39 |
| kerio | hm | 16:43 |
| kerio | :c | 16:43 |
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| kerio | why is the file manager closed-source? :c | 16:47 |
| andre__ | kerio, http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages | 16:50 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 16:50 |
| andre__ | not really covered there though | 16:51 |
| kerio | meh | 16:51 |
| freemangordon | but reasoning should be the same. Differentiation. | 16:51 |
| kerio | so... the answer is just "fuckin' nokia" | 16:51 |
| kerio | i see | 16:51 |
| merlin1991 | jonwil: pong | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: could you assign some version to libcurl3, so i can pull it and push it in thumb repo? | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | on gitorious that is | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | also there is some merge request to Qt, looks sane, but i cannot merge it (or at least don't know how) | 16:55 |
| merlin1991 | hm curl has "some verion" 7.26.0-1maemo1+cssu1 | 16:56 |
| * merlin1991 now looks @ QT | 16:57 | |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, will use that for libcurl3 | 16:58 |
| merlin1991 | btw you might want to adpopt the +cssu1 to +0cssu1 | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | also microb should be ready for next update | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, will do it | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | s/should be/is/ | 16:59 |
| merlin1991 | hm we should make a list of what we currently have for the next update | 16:59 |
| kerio | why +0cssu? | 17:01 |
| kerio | er, i mean | 17:01 |
| kerio | why +0cssu1? | 17:01 |
| merlin1991 | because then we can place an "epoch" in front of the cssu version if we ever need it | 17:01 |
| merlin1991 | someone could always fuck up packaging :D | 17:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: deffinitely, I already forgot half of the things :D | 17:02 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, I pushed kernel-power-setting v16 into extras-devel | 19:02 |
| Pali | http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-settings/ | 19:02 |
| Pali | again missing :-( | 19:02 |
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| Pali | so pushing new versions (increating numbers) have no effect... | 19:03 |
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| kerio | Pali: can't you just make your own tiny repository? | 19:04 |
| Pali | kerio, extras is enabled by nokia in our device | 19:04 |
| Pali | kerio, extras is central repository | 19:04 |
| Pali | better to have ONE repository | 19:04 |
| Pali | before extras was configured each dev has its own repo | 19:05 |
| kerio | installing kernel-power is a calculated act anyway | 19:05 |
| Pali | also kernel-cssu is now in cssu-devel | 19:05 |
| kerio | anyway, i'm just bummed by the lack of diffindex support for extras-devel | 19:05 |
| kerio | and by the general lack of reactivity to problems on the maintainers' part | 19:06 |
| kerio | the repo maintainers, i mean | 19:06 |
| Pali | kerio, merlin will get admin rights for repositories | 19:06 |
| Pali | so I belive this problems could be fixed by new admin | 19:07 |
| luf | merlin1991: are somewhere rules how to create cssu package names/versions? | 19:10 |
| kerio | merlin1991: if you find a way to add pdiffs to extras-devel i will buy you a house | 19:11 |
| kerio | btw, k-p-s 0.16 is in -devel i think | 19:15 |
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| Pali | kerio, in repo is | 19:26 |
| Pali | but is missing in package interface | 19:26 |
| Pali | same happened with 0.15 | 19:26 |
| Pali | X-Fade deleted version 0.15 to try pushing again (but this failed see log from #maemo-meeting) | 19:27 |
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| merlin1991 | luf: if you replace an existing package, keep the name, if it's something that comes from upstream / debian see how they named it, otherwise the choice is yours | 19:41 |
| luf | I ask because I see +cssu1 -> +0cssu1 ... | 19:42 |
| merlin1991 | as for versions see http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Development#Version_Scheme | 19:42 |
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| luf | Ok. I'll fix it in obexd and eds git. | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | Pali: the fuck | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | luf: could you fix it for curl too? | 20:14 |
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| luf | freemangordon: sure I forgot to mention that package. | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | :) | 20:32 |
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| Estel_ | Pali, why You want to delete all "Provides" from kernel-bootimg package? | 22:40 |
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