IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2012-06-27

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DocScrutinizer51merlin1991: I'm currently quite 'busy' with that little bit of dayjob, and I can't get up in the morning so my availability is "late to null"00:23
DocScrutinizer51or weekend00:24
DocScrutinizer51well, actually I'm not allowed to work after 22:0000:25
DocScrutinizer51but since my involvement with CSSU been limited lately, for the same reasons, I'd appreciate to get a list of candidates I may have a closer look at, in advance00:27
DocScrutinizer51so 2000 UTC should be fine00:35
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chem|stmerlin1991: pong03:04
merlin1991don't rmember pinging03:05
chem|stmerlin1991: ping03:07
chem|stsry I am drunk03:07
merlin1991chem|st: pong then :D03:08
chem|stmerlin1991: we can talk later today, I am off to bed now, I was pinged that you might need a wingman03:08
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merlin1991let's see tomorrow then03:08
chem|stmerlin1991: good night03:09
merlin1991n803:09
DocScrutinizer05welcome, chem|st03:10
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usergood morning everyone i got strange bug after latest cssu update  monodevelop not starting tried reinstal it but no luck10:15
userdont know where to report that bug10:15
freemangordonvi_: any error message?10:15
freemangordon(and change your nick please :P)10:16
freemangordonuser: you're vi_, ani't?10:16
userits loading and then gone, i've tried to reinstol monodevelop but no luck10:17
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timmo_?10:19
freemangordonaah, my bad, it is usualy vi_ who appears as user. well, you could install sp-rich-core and get a coredump, without it it will be hard to track down the issue10:19
timmo_dont know what it means10:19
timmo_:)10:19
timmo_ok10:19
freemangordonwhich one? coredump?10:20
timmo_i'll do it10:20
timmo_where to download it?10:20
freemangordonhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5/sp-rich-core10:20
timmo_thanks10:20
freemangordonhmm, mono..., mono..., wasn't that M$ .NET crap? :P10:21
timmo_:)10:22
timmo_whant to learn vala10:22
timmo_and c#10:23
timmo_and good play in train10:23
timmo_its*10:23
freemangordon:)10:25
freemangordontimmo_: once you have coredump, file the bug against CSSU and attach it there10:26
timmo_thank you ;)10:33
DocScrutinizer05odds are a coredump of mono will blow the roof off the MyDocs10:37
DocScrutinizer05;-P10:37
DocScrutinizer05probably it simply dies when the 1GB max memory space got used up10:38
chem|styawn12:10
DocScrutinizer05moan12:26
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merlin1991chem|st: ping14:18
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Timmo_hello19:44
Timmo_one question how to use crash reporter with sp-rich-core?19:45
Timmo_and when i was instaling it i got e: couldnt find package crash19:46
Timmo_what it means19:46
Timmo_?19:46
Timmo_basicly i could just skip this crash reporter i guess19:47
freemangordonTimmo_: I don't think crash reporter will be of any use having in mind what is going on with maemo/Nokia ;)19:47
Timmo_and use just sp-sprich-core19:47
freemangordonyep19:48
freemangordonexactly19:48
Timmo_how i need to remove that crash reporter now19:48
Timmo_?19:48
Timmo_what is terminal command for that19:49
Timmo_sorry i newby19:49
Timmo_:)19:49
Timmo_thanks ;)19:49
freemangordonapt-get remove [package]19:49
Timmo_cool19:49
freemangordonmerlin1991: was the meeting date fixed?19:50
merlin1991not yet19:50
freemangordonok19:50
merlin1991I don't have all responses yet19:50
freemangordonok, I was just asking. will you send an email when ready?19:51
merlin1991yea19:52
freemangordonok, thanks19:52
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Timmo_interesting i cant find /home/user/MyDocs/core-dumps directory and /media/mmc*/core-dumps/ as well no directories20:07
freemangordoncreate either of them20:08
Timmo_how to make dir in terminal?20:08
freemangordonmkdir20:08
Timmo_;)20:08
Timmo_how to crate folder in terminal20:09
Timmo_?20:09
freemangordonTimmo_: mkdir the_name_of_the_folder20:16
freemangordonI was not kidding20:16
Timmo_so now when i need just run app and then when it breaks run command ./crasher ?20:16
Timmo_i tried command (./crasher)after creating directory it said -sh: ./crasher: not found20:18
Timmo_same again20:20
Timmo_i will restart mobile20:20
freemangordonTimmo_: if you have sp-rich-core installed and core-dumps directory created, just run monoshit, there will be a coredump when it crashes20:20
Timmo_o i see20:21
Timmo_it20:21
Timmo_wee20:21
Timmo_:D20:21
Timmo_thanks20:22
Timmo_you saved my internet connection20:22
freemangordonyou owe me a jack :P20:22
Timmo_;)20:22
freemangordon(a glass of)20:22
Timmo_ok20:22
freemangordon:D20:22
Timmo_so now i need to go into maemo.org ssu and upload it somewhere20:23
Timmo_?20:23
freemangordonread wiki on how to file a bug against CSSU20:24
Timmo_ok20:24
freemangordonthere should be a link20:24
freemangordonyou'll need bugzilla account, bit it is easy to create one if you don't have yet20:25
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chem|stmerlin1991: pong20:44
merlin1991mind if  Ipm you?20:45
merlin1991s/Ipm/I pm/20:45
infobotmerlin1991 meant: mind if  I pm you?20:45
chem|stmerlin1991: no go ahead20:46
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Timmo_:)20:48
Timmo_lads so witch component should i pick ?20:48
Timmo_general20:48
Timmo_?20:48
Timmo_in option maemo 5 community ssu20:49
Timmo_and i dont remember my one cssu is testing or stable20:49
Timmo_ok general20:50
merlin1991Timmo_: you can check hat20:50
merlin1991settings -> about community ssu20:50
Timmo_right20:50
Timmo_thanks20:50
* DocScrutinizer06 moans a bit more20:51
DocScrutinizer06and moo20:51
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Timmo_testing20:51
Timmo_atleast i've learned how to add bug report :)20:58
Timmo_thank you lads21:02
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merlin1991Timmo_: you might want to attach the coredump to the bugreport ;)21:52
merlin1991Sc0rpius: ping21:54
Timmo_:o thanks for suggestion, i'm uploading it again, i was attaching it but somehow...21:59
Timmo_my mobile internet in limited mode22:01
Timmo_i've ordered optical one, waiting and dreaming about it now22:03
merlin1991D:22:05
merlin1991s/D:/:D/22:05
infobotmerlin1991 meant: :D22:05
Timmo_still uploading those 3mb22:06
Timmo_i hope they will install it tommorow..22:13
freemangordonTimmo_: no 3G around you?22:13
Timmo_i hava plan 6 gb for 15€ but after 2 weeks its alredy gone22:14
Timmo_so now 56 kb22:14
Timmo_super22:14
freemangordonaah22:15
Timmo_and i guess upload speed mutch more limited22:18
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Timmo_still spinning22:28
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Timmo_dear internet why you so harsh on me :D22:30
Timmo_8 mins more and it will be equal 30min for 3 mb22:31
Sc0rpiusmerlin1991, pong22:33
merlin1991Sc0rpius: could you pm me your email so I have some way to reach you?22:33
merlin1991also we're going to have a *meeting* sometime soon, is 18 - 20 UTC possible for you?22:34
Sc0rpiushmm I'm in -043022:35
Sc0rpiusso maybe (depending on how much work I have) I could attend22:36
Timmo_guys what kind of meeting you attending?22:41
merlin1991cssu meeting :D22:42
merlin1991on irc ;)22:42
merlin1991somewehre in the future22:42
Timmo_can i join it?22:42
merlin1991it's going to be public, so yes22:42
merlin1991but we don't even have a date yet22:42
Timmo_mm22:42
Timmo_what channel?22:43
Timmo_here?22:44
merlin1991you guessed right ;)22:44
DocScrutinizer06merlin1991: will you prepare a list of topics/packages?22:45
merlin1991DocScrutinizer06: I plan to, but I still need a response from mag as to when he can actually attend22:46
DocScrutinizer06unrelated but yes22:46
DocScrutinizer06aaah, some whistle signal from TV - I guess that means ^S for this chan, for at least the next 45min22:49
Timmo_i tried last day connect my n900 to projector and its black & white22:50
Timmo_later on i will try to research it22:51
Timmo_i hope google having solution22:52
DocScrutinizer06check your NTSC/PAL setting22:52
Timmo_tried it and ntsc dosnt working at all22:53
Timmo_maybe cable22:53
DocScrutinizer06then you used wrong input of projector22:53
DocScrutinizer06it22:54
Timmo_i'll check it now22:54
DocScrutinizer06's a CVBS aka composite video signal22:54
DocScrutinizer06no component or S-Video22:54
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DocScrutinizer06also you might need to select right settings of your projector22:57
Timmo_its working now :)23:01
Timmo_changed video signal to rgb23:02
merlin1991what was it before that? :D23:02
Timmo_but its readjusted to auto(pal) before was auto23:03
Timmo_strange23:03
Timmo_just to options in video signal auto and rgb23:03
Timmo_wait what means rgb?23:04
merlin1991red green blue :D23:04
Timmo_:D23:04
DocScrutinizer06red-green-blue: 3 plugs23:04
DocScrutinizer06for video23:04
DocScrutinizer06*your* 3 plugs are 2 for audio, plus only one for video23:04
Timmo_thanks23:05
merlin1991Timmo_: atuo(pal) sounds right though23:05
Timmo_:)23:05
DocScrutinizer06yep23:05
Timmo_i bit doggy screen resolution but..23:06
DocScrutinizer06also the SCART plugs have both composite and RGB23:06
Timmo_atleast colors in it23:06
DocScrutinizer06well, it's PAL resolution I guess23:06
DocScrutinizer06or even less23:06
merlin1991DocScrutinizer06: at least they have space for it, usually when you get some stuff there are only a few connectors in them ;)23:06
DocScrutinizer06yep23:07
DocScrutinizer06full scart has an amazing variety of alternative signals23:07
Timmo_still uploading my 3 mb :/23:08
DocScrutinizer06RGB support is rather unusual23:08
DocScrutinizer06still downloading my 4.3GB23:08
Timmo_:D23:08
merlin19914.3GB of what, linux distributions?23:09
DocScrutinizer06yep23:09
DocScrutinizer0664bit now23:09
DocScrutinizer06friggin delays are from 32bit + 8GB RAM for sure23:09
chem|sthehe23:09
DocScrutinizer06first time I need 64b23:10
Timmo_i bought 1 month ago ssd so my old laptop now better than my cousins new one23:10
Timmo_spinns propper23:10
Timmo_suggesting to do that ;)23:11
Timmo_8gb of ram :D23:12
Timmo_souns good23:12
DocScrutinizer06I also hope these damn X defects will vanish on 64bit23:13
Timmo_what kind of x defects?23:13
Timmo_never heard of23:14
DocScrutinizer06I constantly see e.g alt-tab "menu" overlaying the taskbar will cause none of the destroyed areas getting refreshed properly until I move over it with mouse23:14
DocScrutinizer06(KDE)23:14
DocScrutinizer06had same shite on my old laptop23:14
chem|styou might need to get rid of kde...23:15
DocScrutinizer06I might need to get rid of plasma/kde4, yes23:15
merlin1991plasma/kde4 (on buntkuh) works quite well, but I had to get the closed nvidia drivers for that23:16
chem|stI have gnome3 now as I was lazy about choosing one while installing my desktop during a gardenparty from my beloved n900... :D23:16
chem|stthe time I got abck upstairs I changed it to gnome3-without-fscking-blur at least23:17
merlin1991what are you doing installing stuff during a garden party, you should get drunk and eat meat @ such occasions ;)23:17
Timmo_:D23:18
DocScrutinizer06(nvidia) might be part of the issue here as well23:18
merlin1991also if you're near a like a quick swim is tolerable aswell23:18
chem|stmerlin1991: I was most defn drunk and had lots of meat23:18
merlin1991s/like/lake/23:18
infobotmerlin1991 meant: also if you're near a lake a quick swim is tolerable aswell23:18
merlin1991chem|st: even more reasons not to install stuff :D23:18
chem|stDocScrutinizer06: screw nvidia23:18
DocScrutinizer06nah, called radeon here23:19
merlin1991hm screw ati even more23:19
merlin1991they removed support for my x300 from their driver so long ago that I need to go 2 debian versions back to have a compatible kernel23:19
chem|stmerlin1991: I did it as I just remembered that I forgot to start it so it was hung in between waiting for the user to say "yes please do install"23:20
chem|stouch23:20
merlin1991even though their linux efforts are more open they are still worse from a user perspective23:20
chem|stmerlin1991: but for ati there is radeon drivers and they worked just fine for me23:20
merlin1991except 3d accel23:21
chem|stwith 3d23:21
merlin1991couldn't get my x300 todo any proper 3d23:21
chem|stI use fglrx only for mining bitcoin reasons23:21
merlin1991win xp with the original ati driver was ok, but the only ati provided driver that actually supports it gives about 1/8 3d performance compared to windows (benchmarked with q3)23:22
merlin1991and radeon driver didn't like it at all23:22
merlin1991because it's such an odd mobile chip23:22
chem|sthad radeon working before, it screwed me at least twice but there were options gone missing while upgrading and I needed to set them by hand then to get x even start again23:22
chem|sthmmm, time to get new hardware23:23
merlin1991best thing though is the agp ati in my old pc23:23
merlin1991current ati drivers for windows only have driectx support for that card23:23
merlin1991no more opengl23:23
chem|sthehe23:23
DocScrutinizer0601:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV635 [Mobility Radeon HD 3650]23:23
Timmo_now i'm thinkin do i pressed submit on bug attachment :D or its spining for fun there, my ati x1250 also kiling me on win7 i'm starting to sceary cos somtimes i'm geting propper hang23:24
merlin1991Timmo_: iftop ;)23:24
Timmo_nobody wants hang while uploading 3mb23:24
chem|stmerlin1991: is there a postmirror.sh somewhere to fix the warning/error with apt-mirror for mirroring maemo-repos?23:25
DocScrutinizer06\o/ first GB downloaded23:25
merlin1991chem|st: what do you mean?23:27
DocScrutinizer06(radeon on this laptop): http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2164523:28
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merlin1991but I must say the funkiest problem so far I had with this intel chipset motherboard23:29
merlin1991installing grub2 on a hdd while the controler is set to IDE yields in a broken boot loader23:30
merlin1991installing grub2 on the hdd while the controler ist set to AHCI yields in a proper boot loader that still doesn't boot23:31
DocScrutinizer06lol23:31
merlin1991one has to install grub2 whilst in AHCI and boot in ide23:31
merlin1991also all linux live disks don't boot in ide mode claiming they can't find the dvd drive after the kernel starts it's initramfs23:32
DocScrutinizer06:-/23:33
merlin1991it's completely fucked up :D23:33
merlin1991but the best thing is windows, theoretically you need to set a flag in the registry prior to swapping sata mode, with this mobo it works regardless23:34
Timmo_propper head ache23:34
merlin1991ah yeah, bios update didn't make a difference23:34
merlin1991but it was cheap :P23:34
DocScrutinizer06ask aunt google23:34
merlin1991DocScrutinizer06: I did ask aunt google for about 2 days till I said fuck this and did stuff in trial and error23:35
DocScrutinizer06ouch23:35
DocScrutinizer06you two guys had a nice chat meanwhile?23:35
DocScrutinizer06( chem|st, merlin1991)23:35
merlin1991yep23:36
DocScrutinizer06:-)23:36
DocScrutinizer06or not?23:37
chem|stno... :D23:37
DocScrutinizer06:-S23:38
merlin1991now I'm lost23:39
DocScrutinizer06thought we had some new manpower23:40
merlin1991I think someones using double negative here :D23:40
merlin1991or not -> no -> yes23:40
DocScrutinizer06ooh23:40
Timmo_google ist the best anyway23:41
Timmo_:D23:41
DocScrutinizer06yeah, and they created that funny green trashbin23:41
merlin1991huh green trashbin?23:42
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Timmo_?23:42
merlin1991or do you mean the droid icon? :D23:42
Timmo_trying open ttd to play on big screen23:44
Timmo_looks promising23:44
DocScrutinizer06http://www.satori-nihon.de/wp-content/uploads/androide.jpg23:45
Timmo_what will happen if i press submit button again? on bug report or its beter to white abit more?23:46
DocScrutinizer06hmmmm23:47
DocScrutinizer06meh, press it again23:47
DocScrutinizer06after all, even with 56k your 3MB shouldn't take longer than 10..15 minutes23:48
Timmo_The file you are trying to attach is 3827 kilobytes (KB) in size. Non-patch attachments cannot be more than 1000 KB.23:48
Timmo_We recommend that you store your attachment elsewhere and then insert the URL to it in a comment, or in the URL field for this bug.23:48
Timmo_Alternately, if your attachment is an image, you could convert it to a compressible format like JPG or PNG and try again.23:48
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DocScrutinizer06:nod:23:49
Timmo_:D23:49
Timmo_shame on me23:49
DocScrutinizer06nah, shame on us for suggesting nonsense to you23:50
merlin1991we all know freemangordon is to blame ;)23:52
Timmo_going for a smoke23:53
Estel_kick him in ass for the way cordia is managed23:53
tadzik:P23:57
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merlin1991Estel_: that makes no sense :D23:57
Timmo_now i'm thinking to add url of the file and upload it into windows live sky23:57
* merlin1991 read the dreadfull words23:58
Timmo_what means dreadfull?23:58
Timmo_:)23:58
merlin1991s/ll/l/23:59

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