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| DocScrutinizer | dreamer: on a more serious statement: I think there's only one *proper* battery monitor app available for N900, and that's bq27* shellscript | 00:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | for all I know all other apps either use HAL (guesstimate at its finest, just like battery icon in status bar) or they rely on bq27200.ko kernel module and sysfs nodes, which are known to break things and a so badly deprecated we should nuke them off God's great earth | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/and a /and are / | 00:50 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: for all I know all other apps either use HAL (guesstimate at its finest, just like battery icon in status bar) or they rely on bq27200.ko kernel module and sysfs nodes, which are known to break things and are so badly deprecated we should nuke them off Go... | 00:50 |
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| dreamer | DocScrutinizer: hmmm | 00:55 |
| dreamer | well, it always worked just fine | 00:55 |
| dreamer | BatteryGraph still works though | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, you thought that | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | battery graph probably using HAL | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | bq27200.ko however could either cause reboots when you for example use h-e-n (stopping then restarting bme), or (in an other even worse fsckdup version) could actually damage your hardware, due to locking in I"C got removed systemwide, to stop bme from causing reboot | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | I2C even | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | in current powerkernel it's blacklisted by default, due to all those severe issues | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | aiui you can unblacklist it on your own peril. This will make all battery monitors "work" like on PK49 (48?), risking your device escaping blue magic smoke in worst case | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/escaping/emitting/. | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | "why doesn't it work anymore?" "well, the blue magic smoke escaped. Did you open it?" | 01:06 |
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| dreamer | DocScrutinizer: ouch | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed | 01:55 |
| dreamer | hehe | 01:56 |
| dreamer | well, I try not to go too deep in to the internals, but it's too bad that it doesn't work anymore ;) | 01:56 |
| Raimu | DocScrutinizer: By bq27* script do you mean for example bq27200.sh on maemo.cloud-7? | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | those scripts using i2ctools are considered relatively safe (unless you mess with i2ctools and don't know what you're doing), they work on all kernels as long as bq27200.ko kernel module not loaded, don't actually cause any permamnet trouble and deliver reasonable values for result, if you know to read them | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | permanent even | 02:30 |
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| Guest17231 | hi | 21:41 |
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| Yggdrassil | someone know the package elinks-hacked? | 21:43 |
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| fw190 | DocScrutinizer: ping | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | ? | 22:38 |
| fw190 | hello | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | hi | 22:38 |
| fw190 | could you check TMO election topic | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 22:39 |
| fw190 | I've posted the links you requested | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah, k | 22:39 |
| fw190 | as Estel isn't arround | 22:39 |
| fw190 | :) | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | fw190: that page seems vastly out of date, or the announcement and election is | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | I won't link to a page that claims voting is closing tomorrow | 22:42 |
| fw190 | hmmm so maybe the candidates? | 22:43 |
| fw190 | only | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | useless affort | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | effort | 22:43 |
| fw190 | I do not know when they will edit the page for the election as I don't know when will it be | 22:43 |
| fw190 | hmmm now I get your point | 22:44 |
| fw190 | this whole election thingie is +#-__()& | 22:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | look, there's not enough space in /topic for "Hi everybody, you know there's an election meant to happen eventually. Nobody knows exactly who's knowing details, but obsolete and incorrect info could be found at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q1/2_2012. Please don't miss the breaking news, once they might appear!" | 22:49 |
| fw190 | hahahahahah this is a goog one | 22:50 |
| fw190 | good | 22:50 |
| fw190 | but what can I do as mr nobody on TNO? | 22:51 |
| fw190 | how to force the election proces? | 22:51 |
| fw190 | the steam is gone | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | user attention is the most valuable and scarce resource in internet | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | Won't waste it for nonsense | 22:51 |
| fw190 | you are right | 22:51 |
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