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| int_ua | Anyone from OMP team? | 01:34 |
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| int_ua | I'd like to add Ukrainian translation | 01:35 |
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| int_ua | merlin1991: thanks :) I've sent him a message and waiting for a reply because I'd like to use native transifex interface | 02:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wtf is OMP? | 03:24 |
| merlin1991 | open media player | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | mohammediaplayer | 03:24 |
| merlin1991 | that's the other name for it :D | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | 19° at 2_30 in the night, and a distant thunder. I *love* this mood | 03:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~weather | 03:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh | 03:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~weather EDDN | 03:28 |
| infobot | Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2012.05.02 0020 UTC; Dew Point: 55 F (13 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.94 in. Hg (1014 hPa); Relative Humidity: 82%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Weather: 60 F (16 C); Wind: from the ESE (110 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT) | 03:28 |
| merlin1991 | dunno | 03:34 |
| merlin1991 | my eyes are dying | 03:34 |
| merlin1991 | I need to get up soon to take my antibiotics in time, and I'm still waiting for a dist-upgrade here | 03:35 |
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| * merlin1991 needs to remember NOT to start a dist-upgrade @ 1am in the morning | 03:39 | |
| merlin1991 | It's the third time I made this mistake now xD | 03:39 |
| amiconn | ~weather EDDT | 03:39 |
| infobot | Berlin-Tegel, Germany; (EDDT) 52-34N 013-19E 37M; last updated: 2012.05.02 0020 UTC; Dew Point: 53 F (12 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.00 in. Hg (1016 hPa); Relative Humidity: 72%; Temperature: 62 F (17 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the N (010 degrees) at 3 MPH (3 KT) | 03:39 |
| amiconn | ah | 03:39 |
| LaoLang_cool | ~weather | 03:41 |
| LaoLang_cool | ~weather Nanjing | 03:42 |
| infobot | I can't find station code "NANJING" (see http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/site.shtml or http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml for ICAO locations codes). | 03:42 |
| merlin1991 | ~weather LOWW | 03:43 |
| infobot | Wien / Schwechat-Flughafen, Austria; (LOWW) 48-07N 016-34E 190M; last updated: 2012.05.02 0020 UTC; Dew Point: 48 F (9 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.94 in. Hg (1014 hPa); Relative Humidity: 59%; Temperature: 62 F (17 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the WSW (250 degrees) at 3 MPH (3 KT) | 03:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~weather znsj | 04:02 |
| infobot | I can't find station code "ZNSJ" (see http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/site.shtml or http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml for ICAO locations codes). | 04:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~weather zsnj | 04:02 |
| infobot | Nanjing, China; (ZSNJ) 32-00N 118-48E 12M; last updated: 2012.05.02 0000 UTC; Dew Point: 57 F (14 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.83 in. Hg (1010 hPa); Relative Humidity: 77%; Sky conditions: mostly clear; Temperature: 64 F (18 C); Visibility: 1 mile(s); Weather: Mist; Wind: from the NW (320 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT) | 04:03 |
| * DocScrutinizer smiles at ~identical weather at 4 different locations | 04:05 | |
| merlin1991 | ~weather 11035 | 04:07 |
| infobot | I can't find station code "11035" (see http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/site.shtml or http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml for ICAO locations codes). | 04:07 |
| merlin1991 | bah | 04:07 |
| amiconn | ~weather EDDB | 04:07 |
| merlin1991 | http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/nsd_lookup.pl?station=11035 | 04:07 |
| infobot | Berlin-Schoenefeld, Germany; (EDDB) 52-23N 013-31E 50M; last updated: 2012.05.02 0050 UTC; Dew Point: 53 F (12 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.97 in. Hg (1015 hPa); Relative Humidity: 77%; Temperature: 60 F (16 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the N (010 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT) | 04:07 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: any idea how I could get that station? | 04:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | hm? | 04:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | which one? | 04:12 |
| merlin1991 | 11035 | 04:18 |
| merlin1991 | or even better 11034 | 04:18 |
| merlin1991 | http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/nsd_lookup.pl?station=11034 which would be the most accurate for me | 04:19 |
| merlin1991 | only 11036 has an icao index but that one is far away from me :/ | 04:21 |
| amiconn | Looks like only icao codes are possible. According to http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/infobot/trunk/src/Modules/Weather.pl?revision=1927&view=markup infobot directly calls one of the html files from http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ | 04:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | amiconn: so is this a limitation of the called html noaa.gov website, or is there sth to get patched in infobot? | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | amiconn: if the latter, I probably can speed up and facilitate things a bit, when I get a hold on Tim | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E. a patch file could get applied in a few days | 06:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nevermind, here the available stations: http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ | 06:13 |
| int_ua | Are there any other CSSU-related translations hosted on Transifex besides OMP and n900-extra-translations? | 07:02 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991, what about include open media player, rewritten clock UI and calendar home widget into CSSU? | 12:58 |
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| Pali | open media player seems be stable | 13:09 |
| MohammadAG | Aren't there some occasional crashes? | 13:10 |
| MohammadAG | (Which could probably be fixed by using QPointer) | 13:11 |
| Pali | MohammadAG, I did not get any crashes for 1 month | 13:12 |
| MohammadAG | 1 tester isn't enough | 13:13 |
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| Pali | MohammadAG, so we need more testing? | 13:34 |
| Pali | then other people and from TMO can test it too | 13:35 |
| MohammadAG | We've seen what happened with camera-UI | 13:35 |
| Pali | but if we do not push it to cssu-testing (or cssu-devel) we will not see real problems | 13:37 |
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| Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer51: | 13:56 |
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| Lava_Croft | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/401589_413468522010419_100000418249745_1437710_388073361_n.jpg | 14:51 |
| Lava_Croft | there you go | 14:51 |
| Lava_Croft | I asked them how many in stock | 14:51 |
| Lava_Croft | dude took 8 minutes to find out that the one on this picture is their last in stock | 14:51 |
| Lava_Croft | its the MediaMarkt in Alkmaar | 14:51 |
| Lava_Croft | have fun with it | 14:51 |
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| Raimu | :) | 16:50 |
| Raimu | Oh my god, it has all the arrow keys! | 16:50 |
| * Raimu has now realized why people actually bother mapping game keys to arrow keys and why his FI model doesn't cut it | 16:51 | |
| Raimu | We need to press blue-left for arrow-up and blue-right for arrow-down. :P | 16:53 |
| * Raimu feels dumb | 16:53 | |
| DocScrutinizer | Raimu: that's why I swapped all my DE keymats to US | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | (the real reason is I can't learn by heart the US layout, so I need the correct keycap printings - of course the logical layout will be proper US if you switch to US keyboard in settings, just it doesn't match the printing on keys anymore then) | 17:12 |
| Raimu | Yup. | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw this Fn+cursor for up/down is not only annoying, it also defeats proper mapping of Fn+UP to page-up or home, whatever you prefer | 17:16 |
| Raimu | Can you map Fn+shift+up? | 17:49 |
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| freemangordon | Pali, I just can't imagine how we are going to support adeclock without anyone of us knowing a line of code. Otherwise if it is stable, why not. Re OMP - I think there are still crashes, didn't test wor a while, maybe will give it a shot again. NFC what calendar home widget is. | 18:48 |
| Pali | nicolai's calendar widget: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=55018 | 18:53 |
| freemangordon | Pali, first bug in OMP - rotate to portrait an start a video ;) | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | *and | 18:56 |
| freemangordon | and ind continues to crash | 18:56 |
| freemangordon | *it | 18:57 |
| freemangordon | it is gust nowhere to be ready even for testing | 18:57 |
| freemangordon | on the other hand we can pull it in CSSU if you think the current developer will speedup bug-fixing | 18:58 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, after all you are the creator of OMP, do you have will to put a little effor in it again? | 18:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | if we're going to abandon mediaplayer in favour of any at best halfbaked alternative now, after we already did that with camera, I promise I'll abandon CSSU at large | 19:02 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, AIUI Pali was just asking, and if it depends on me, OMP will enter CSSU only and only if it is feature-complete and there are no known bugs at least. Which is not the case as for now | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | no objection to offering freedom of choice to CSSU users. But forcing a new stuff as replacement for something proven to "work" is a killer | 19:04 |
| merlin1991 | imo we don't need omp in cssu | 19:05 |
| merlin1991 | it lives happily in extras | 19:05 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 19:05 |
| freemangordon | extras-devel :D | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: +++ | 19:05 |
| merlin1991 | and if you want fully system integration like me you just adjust the dbus service file from the stock mediaplayer | 19:05 |
| merlin1991 | s/fully/full/ | 19:05 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: and if you want full system integration like me you just adjust the dbus service file from the stock mediaplayer | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: +++ | 19:05 |
| freemangordon | and what about adeclock | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | as it should've been done with camera already | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | like you said nobody knows the code | 19:06 |
| freemangordon | but we could put it in CSSU in the same way as it is now with orientation lock applet in stable | 19:06 |
| MohammadAG | Camera actually has to be replaced | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | Had* | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | Running both conflicts | 19:07 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon: yes, I do | 19:07 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: how's your scratchbox? | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | :D :D :D | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: that'S a terribly poor argument | 19:08 |
| MohammadAG | I'll see if the code base is understandable | 19:08 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer: Life's unfair :p | 19:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: in fact that's a good reason NOT to replace it | 19:08 |
| MohammadAG | Let's not start this again :p | 19:09 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, running stock MP and camera-ui from CSSU dos not conflict, that is what I am using for the last year or so. What do you mean? | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | while the supposed 'conflict' is simply due to developers not caring to solve that issue | 19:09 |
| freemangordon | what conflict? | 19:09 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: the conflict is between stock camera-ui and cssu camera-ui | 19:09 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon: What would opening the lens cover do? | 19:09 |
| freemangordon | start the camera | 19:09 |
| MohammadAG | Oh nvm, you misunderstood | 19:09 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 19:10 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: now what about that scratchbox of yours? | 19:10 |
| MohammadAG | Walking to dorms, gimme 10 and I'll be back | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | BTW I think after all we should put operator widget in the next update | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | I think jonwil will be angry on us otherwise | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | "duh, I CBA to make my camera app not conflict with stock camera, so whatyagonnado? simple: nuke stock camera" BWAHAHA | 19:11 |
| * MohammadAG ponders changing nick to TheTerminator | 19:11 | |
| MohammadAG | My camera app? Stock would conflict | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, indeed, lets not start that again | 19:11 |
| * merlin1991 sits in front of some uni assignment is wandering WTF the output Z and N are on a 16 bit alu | 19:11 | |
| merlin1991 | s/wandering/wondering/ | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | Zero and Negative? | 19:12 |
| merlin1991 | I get the part where the result goes out, and carry on (C) but what is Z and N? :D | 19:12 |
| freemangordon | yep | 19:12 |
| * merlin1991 is still not wiser :D | 19:13 | |
| DocScrutinizer | EH? | 19:13 |
| freemangordon | and the bus widths should not matter re flag register contents :D | 19:13 |
| merlin1991 | might be due to the fact I never was @ uni when they explained stuff :D | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | Zero == (ACCU = 0), Negative == (ACCU<0) | 19:13 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, btw N could be S too | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | Sign, sometimes yes | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | as it just represents most significant bit of accu | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | actually in x86 it is S | 19:15 |
| * merlin1991 searches for the book, since he doesn't even know wtf accu stands for | 19:15 | |
| MohammadAG | Way too bored of physics and math this year | 19:15 |
| merlin1991 | btw I'm looking @ micro16 architecture here | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991 accumulator | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | the register which is used th result from the operation to be stored | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | think AX | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | on some CPU architectures there's no dedicated accu | 19:16 |
| freemangordon | ARM being one of them? :) | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | then the flags represent results of last arithmetic op done on any register | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: iirc yes | 19:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | ARM can do complex arithmetics on any of R1..R?? | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | SP, PC, all are some R14, Rdunno | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | so yes, there's quite likely nothing like an accumulator in ARM | 19:18 |
| merlin1991 | guys I went from just knowing about flipflops, & | and other easy stuff last week to some 16 bit alu today | 19:19 |
| merlin1991 | and i'm kinda lost | 19:19 |
| freemangordon | while x86 cannot multiply, divide, whatever the other operations were on a random register | 19:19 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, ALUs should be easy, add and shift, see :) | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: R5=R7+#3 -> ALU calculates content of R7 + "3" and stores to R5, while ALU's Z, N, C etcd flags that represent certain test results of that calculation are stored to some special place called status or flag register | 19:20 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: tbh the shift is easier to grasp for me :D | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | since result is stored to R5, you could also consider Z, N, C etc valid for R5 at that very moment | 19:22 |
| merlin1991 | but I found the right book (still in plastic xD) and am reading the right chapter now :) | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | well, the ALUs from the early days of CPUs are just that, you can easily implement such ALU by using just standard TTL logic | 19:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.qrc0001m/QRC0001_UAL.pdf | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | everything - multiplication, division, substraction is done only using add and shift | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | see column "S updates" for what each opcode actually does to status flags | 19:24 |
| MohammadAG | Add and shift? | 19:24 |
| freemangordon | yep :) | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | So theoretically, 2+0 is faster than 2*1? | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | yep | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | (while in practice the difference is mus | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: also see "Condition field" page 6 of that card | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | ) | 19:25 |
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| freemangordon | that was the biggest problem of CISC | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | And calculators work the same? | 19:25 |
| freemangordon | that you cannot predict how many cycles the instrunction will take, so no correct scheduling | 19:26 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, NFC, maybe it depends on the generation | 19:26 |
| merlin1991 | rofl, gotta love this book, the text has C,N,Z but the picture above only contains N and Z | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, have in mind we are talking about integer operations here, maybe the calculators have more advanced FP unit | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, how is the correct english term for the type of code you should feed suc add-shift alu with, google translates it to "additional code" from bulgarian, but I don't think it is correct | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry, you lost me | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | you mean microcode? | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | the hidden "program" that does a div on x86? | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | no, when you want to substract with add-shift alu, you should invert the subtrahend ann add 1 | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | and there is a term for that, I just cannot remember/never know it | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | nevermind | 19:35 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer, it is "two's complement" | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | :) | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_complements | 19:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yay | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | too basic for my radar, sorry :-D | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | two's complement it the "natural change-sign" | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | a-b == a+(-b) where "-b" == two's complement of b | 19:49 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, just a note, I think qDebug() slightly slows function returns | 19:50 |
| MohammadAG | so I hope these can be switched off query 0x553ad8 complete | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | MainWindow::onSourceUpdating( progress = 0 , processed_items = 0 , remaining_items = 0 , remaining_time = -1 ) | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | MainWindow::onSourceUpdating( progress = 100 , processed_items = 0 , remaining_items = 0 , remaining_time = 0 ) | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | each CPU/ALU has complement (or xor with arbitrary - here all-"1") as well as two's_complement aka change-sign | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, where is that from? | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | really cool are ARM's instructions group "saturate" | 19:53 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, stderr | 19:53 |
| MohammadAG | also, "Disconnect headset to pause" isn't the best translation | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | as well as the "count zeroes" | 19:53 |
| MohammadAG | it should "Pause music when headset is disconnected | 19:53 |
| MohammadAG | " | 19:53 |
| MohammadAG | besides those two points, it seems OMP shaped up well :') | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw ARM *has* an accu, see e.g "move data"->"40-bit accumulator to register" XS | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/XS/MAR/ | 19:55 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: btw ARM *has* an accu, see e.g "move data"->"40-bit accumulator to register" MAR | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | MoveAccu->Register | 19:55 |
| MohammadAG | oh and I don't like how the album art resizes with no transition, but that's probably cause I use iOS a lot and expect that :P | 19:56 |
| MohammadAG | let's see | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | RBIT | 19:57 |
| MohammadAG | Video still flickers when tapped to show controls <-- regression from stock MP | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, yeah | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | and it does not rotate to landscape if started in portrait | 19:58 |
| MohammadAG | I thought I fixed that... | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | you need like 20+ instructions for RBIT on a 'regular' CPU | 19:58 |
| MohammadAG | in fact, it does | 19:58 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, forced rotation? | 19:59 |
| MohammadAG | ooh, UPnP | 20:00 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG, could be | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | :) | 20:03 |
| MohammadAG | I'm impressed, the code base seems to be improved | 20:04 |
| MohammadAG | in fact the only thing I hate is home.cpp/h | 20:04 |
| MohammadAG | and FreqDlg, it's good practice to have useful full names | 20:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | honestly, I don't see use of implementing more and more gimmicks like transitions for cover art sizing into OMP, when elementary functions like editing playlists in a bearable (not even asking for convenient, useful) way are painfully missing | 20:12 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I just need someone who's good at implementing custom Qt widgets | 20:14 |
| MohammadAG | you should know lots of those | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | cut song from playlist, insert song at arbitrary position in playlist, all derived cmds from those elementary operations like delete song from PL, move song up/down in PL, do all this with a selection of songs. Then commands like "stop after this song", "skip to $destination in PL after this song" | 20:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, maybe the last one is a tad over the top :-) | 20:18 |
| MohammadAG | http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRHvNtn380j--Dgj0R9A_8Cd-N68q0kQebXkug8hr13bFIelWAFoqExwjn DocScrutinizer | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | plus still the most annoying shortcoming of the whole pile: no gapless playback | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: what you're telling me? | 20:21 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: how is your freaking scratchbox ffs | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, as always | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, I'm planning to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 | 20:52 |
| merlin1991 | when? | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | or upgrade, then reinstall scratchbox | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | when I'm home, which should be tomorrow | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | unless I make an accident or sth | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, that's what's needed to edit playlists | 20:53 |
| MohammadAG | a list with cells that have handles | 20:53 |
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| merlin1991 | bah implementing multiplikation in that architecture is gay | 21:58 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I know why I'm going todo the sw side | 22:05 |
| merlin1991 | this is driving me crazy here :D | 22:05 |
| merlin1991 | though I progress steadily so it isn't that bad :) | 22:05 |
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