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| * merlin1991 finally found the time todo the changelog | 00:46 | |
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| ThreeM | \o/ | 01:02 |
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| ThreeM | not yet online merlin1991 ? | 01:03 |
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| merlin1991 | ThreeM: what do you mean? | 01:16 |
| ThreeM | when is the changelog online? | 01:17 |
| merlin1991 | I'm doing it atm :D | 01:17 |
| ThreeM | ahh :) | 01:17 |
| ThreeM | thx for that :) | 01:17 |
| merlin1991 | as in I just finished checking the sources to make sure everyhting goes in and now I'm writing the wiki page :) | 01:18 |
| merlin1991 | it takes quite some time to go through every changed package and check is some change sneaked in that isn't otherwise noted down in the changelogs in the source .D | 01:19 |
| ThreeM | big changelog this time? | 01:19 |
| merlin1991 | not really | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | 7 source repos have updated | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | *updates* | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | it's up http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#T-maemo1 | 01:24 |
| ThreeM | thx :) | 01:24 |
| ThreeM | im the first one how read it :) | 01:25 |
| ThreeM | ahh nice: modest/tinymail Several crash fixes. | 01:26 |
| merlin1991 | you can easily see wich changelog entries were done by me | 01:27 |
| merlin1991 | mine have the table alphabetically ordered xD | 01:27 |
| ThreeM | hehe | 01:28 |
| merlin1991 | now I just need Mag here so I can push him to push the hildon-home sources so I can do that part too | 01:29 |
| ThreeM | he is a bit busy in the last time | 01:30 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 01:30 |
| ThreeM | but hey, we still get updates :) | 01:30 |
| merlin1991 | and I have to find out why the maemo autobuilder tries to completely fsck my compile of qt | 01:30 |
| merlin1991 | need to fix that to get the bloody stable out | 01:31 |
| ThreeM | sadly i have no idea of development | 01:31 |
| ThreeM | i would like to contribute to, but i cant :( | 01:31 |
| merlin1991 | testing is contributing too | 01:35 |
| merlin1991 | and you can always participate in the meetings on friday | 01:35 |
| ThreeM | hmm maybe im looking into it :) | 01:37 |
| ThreeM | testing is quite hard, cause im using my n900 as productive device. when something goes wrong and im not reachable than it can be expensive for me | 01:38 |
| merlin1991 | :/ | 01:39 |
| merlin1991 | so you're practially waiting with upgrades to see if they're stable | 01:39 |
| ThreeM | i haven any problems with the updates till now | 01:40 |
| merlin1991 | in the beginning of cssu we had a few updates that did break stuff :D | 01:41 |
| ThreeM | hmm witch was the first cssu i have installed.... i dont know :) | 01:41 |
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| ThreeM | hmm, when i use backup with backupmenu, the risk for testing is quite less or? | 01:42 |
| merlin1991 | I never used backupmenu nor checked what it actually does | 01:43 |
| merlin1991 | so I can't tell you :/ | 01:43 |
| ThreeM | it copys rootfs and optfs to sdcard | 01:44 |
| ThreeM | and ofcouse restore it | 01:45 |
| ThreeM | or is there a possibility to do ca complete backup of the device? | 01:46 |
| merlin1991 | rootfs + optfs should be enough | 01:48 |
| ThreeM | so i would like to be a tester. anything special i got to know? any standards for testing or so? | 01:49 |
| merlin1991 | you are a tester if you have cssu installed :P | 01:50 |
| merlin1991 | and when you use the latest version you can voice your opinion on that "stable" state of components in the meetings | 01:50 |
| merlin1991 | everything we deem stable goes into the stable cssu | 01:50 |
| merlin1991 | wich will come avaiaible when I fixed that fsckd build | 01:50 |
| ThreeM | ah, so, expect me on the meetings :) | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | every friday 17:00 utc | 01:53 |
| ThreeM | good time for me | 01:53 |
| ThreeM | maybe that will improve my english too ;) | 01:54 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I'm about to just upload the fsckd src and not use the builder alltogether | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | go for it | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | no friggin one else can use builder either | 02:15 |
| * merlin1991 curses into autobuilders general direction | 02:15 | |
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| * DocScrutinizer asks what's builder's general direction so he knows which side of toilet to stand to piss in some particular general direction | 02:16 | |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: wherever you don't want him, that's where he stays | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | well while I visited bathroom, I idly pondered: NNE, seems about correct for Germany to builder | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | my bathroom is naturally optimized | 02:19 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: meeting tomorrow is happening | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | what friggin meeting? | 02:21 |
| merlin1991 | cssu :D | 02:21 |
| * DocScrutinizer shrugs | 02:22 | |
| DocScrutinizer | wasted my time 2 times | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's no 3rd chance | 02:22 |
| merlin1991 | 2 times? | 02:22 |
| merlin1991 | afaik we only failed once | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1st time was no big success story either | 02:23 |
| merlin1991 | huh? | 02:23 |
| merlin1991 | 1st time we decided what goes into stable | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, but an hour+ late | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | with 50% of participants expected | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | 2nd time was an *eepic* fail | 02:24 |
| merlin1991 | I was in berlin, and had no control over my schedule :/ | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | 3rd time you need to bribe me | 02:24 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: there's going to be candy ;) | 02:25 |
| merlin1991 | btw any idea what happened to X-Fade? | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | try harder | 02:25 |
| merlin1991 | he's completely gone | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | he ignores me since 6 months, so I dunno | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | seems maemo isn't one of his pet projects (anymore) | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | even mohammad is kinda gone | 02:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | and the icing on top: those guys have all the privileges to let us starve with patches not getting promoted, with access lists not getting any love... | 02:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | /msg chanserv access #maeomo-ssu list | 02:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | privs on git and on repos: all the same | 02:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | if anybody knows he can't care anymore, he got the goddamn duty to hand over the hat to somebody else who can | 02:31 |
| ThreeM | have you asked him about that? | 02:33 |
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| Macer | merlin1991: how is berlin ever since the fall of the wall? | 06:11 |
| Macer | is it a united Germany nowadays .. i don't understand how germany works | 06:11 |
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| Lava_Croft | lol | 15:27 |
| Lava_Croft | Macer: the wall fell in bloody 1989 | 15:28 |
| Lava_Croft | lol | 15:28 |
| ThreeM | bloody? | 15:32 |
| Lava_Croft | bloody as in 'fucking' or whatever | 15:32 |
| Lava_Croft | to emphasive the fact that it was in 1989 | 15:33 |
| ThreeM | ahh ok | 15:33 |
| Lava_Croft | ;) | 15:33 |
| Lava_Croft | british english, not american english | 15:33 |
| psycho_oreos | indeed | 15:33 |
| Lava_Croft | oreos are tasty | 15:34 |
| Lava_Croft | especially the ones covered in chocolate | 15:34 |
| psycho_oreos | try deep fried oreos then ;) | 15:34 |
| ThreeM | the chocolate once are a bit to much | 15:34 |
| Lava_Croft | i dont eat oreos anymore | 15:34 |
| Lava_Croft | their price/quality balance got lost | 15:34 |
| ThreeM | so get the one from discounter | 15:34 |
| ThreeM | other label, same taste | 15:35 |
| Lava_Croft | or better said, i started to realize the lack of a proper balance between the two | 15:35 |
| ThreeM | smaller price | 15:35 |
| Lava_Croft | naw, too sweet;) | 15:35 |
| Lava_Croft | i used to eat em a lot tho | 15:35 |
| Lava_Croft | at least we went from the berlin wall to the differences between american and british english on to oreos | 15:35 |
| Lava_Croft | hooray for us | 15:35 |
| ThreeM | hrhr | 15:36 |
| merlin1991 | and all that in #maemo-ssu | 15:48 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 15:48 |
| merlin1991 | but yeah, Macer I didn't see much of berlin | 15:48 |
| Lava_Croft | most of the HUGE building pit in the center of town is gone tho, i think | 15:48 |
| Lava_Croft | some years ago when i was there, almost entire city center was one big pit | 15:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmmm, so what's the rant about "files gone from repo", merlin1991 ? | 16:40 |
| Macer | Lava_Croft: yeah but i never really looked into how the reunification worked out ;) | 16:47 |
| Lava_Croft | it exists on paper quite nicely | 16:48 |
| Lava_Croft | but in germany theres still a quite visible border | 16:48 |
| Lava_Croft | at least there was the last time i was there | 16:48 |
| Lava_Croft | which is like 6 years ago:P | 16:48 |
| Lava_Croft | but i doubt much has changed | 16:48 |
| Lava_Croft | our family has had good friends in eastern germany since before the wall came down | 16:49 |
| Lava_Croft | of course its all freedom etc now, but eastern germany just remains the poor shitty part | 16:49 |
| Lava_Croft | despite shitloads of money and intentions | 16:49 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: here http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/non-free/m/ used to be an maemosec applet folder | 17:38 |
| merlin1991 | good news, certman applets are there in the repo properly now | 17:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | god news indeed, though... No more opportunity to bash lusers who disabled their Nokia SSU repo for no good reason :-D | 18:50 |
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| amiconn | *god* news? ;) | 19:32 |
| merlin1991 | lmao | 19:36 |
| merlin1991 | so who's around for meeting? | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | me... not really | 19:37 |
| merlin1991 | ffs | 19:38 |
| merlin1991 | also ffs qt upload to stable repo stalled | 19:39 |
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| * andre__ just lurking | 19:55 | |
| DocScrutinizer | I admit it's kinda unfair I first pushed and bitched for a stable release, and now don't continue to do exactly that, but it seems the support is just too low to sustain this | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | the enthusiasm for this meeting was sub-par on the first one, abysmal on the second, and not existent on this third event | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | also there's been exactly one faintly interested applicant for vice-maintainer job and he never came back | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think the whole project is rapidly entering limbo state | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | mohammad announced some qt frontend to maintain the testing branch, did I miss his eporting back on progress regarding that? | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | my hopes were on Tmaemo1 and Smaemo1 we could start a huge bold announcement and so attract some contributors and more momentum, but this hope seems to be an illusion as well | 20:09 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: S will come this weekend | 20:42 |
| merlin1991 | I tried to upload it today, but my upstream kept interrupting midupload | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | friggin silicon gremlins | 20:44 |
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