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| Macer | anybody around? | 10:17 |
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| Macer | i am having a problem with my bluetooth keybaoard | 10:17 |
| Macer | there was a file i was supposed to edit in order for rtrn to work when the phone was closed | 10:18 |
| Macer | i wonder if i can just change kpen to the rtrn code | 10:19 |
| Macer | :) | 10:19 |
| Macer | got it | 10:26 |
| Macer | ! | 10:27 |
| Macer | alright | 10:28 |
| Macer | awesome | 10:28 |
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| merlin1991 | oh the fun of setting up a new n900 after reflash | 14:04 |
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| psycho_oreos | next time use backupmenu :) | 14:11 |
| merlin1991 | NOPE | 14:11 |
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| merlin1991 | :D | 14:11 |
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| psycho_oreos | why not? | 14:11 |
| merlin1991 | never tried it, no real reason | 14:11 |
| merlin1991 | I have a nice text file that lists all packages I used | 14:11 |
| merlin1991 | so after a flash I enable devel, install rootsh and openssh and then I'm ready todo a huge copy paste to console :P | 14:12 |
| psycho_oreos | lol | 14:12 |
| * merlin1991 is going to solve the pr1.3.1 cssu mystery forever | 14:12 | |
| merlin1991 | got the exact depends of pr 1.3 now installing 1.3.1 and then I'll compare | 14:12 |
| psycho_oreos | what about minor things like setting up the correct brightness levels, having all the necessary profiles. USB networking, etc, etc, etc? | 14:13 |
| merlin1991 | all I need todo is sshkeys for root and that's it | 14:13 |
| merlin1991 | usb networking comes with mad-developer, and besides that I don't customize :D | 14:13 |
| * psycho_oreos thinks that'd be a huge battery drain somewhat | 14:14 | |
| psycho_oreos | well its not only that but the inflexibilities | 14:14 |
| merlin1991 | okay the pr 1.3.1 update brings llibmaemosec and the applet nothing else | 14:15 |
| merlin1991 | mystery solved | 14:15 |
| merlin1991 | so pr 1.3.1 + cssu is no problem, also the other way around, as long as you don't install the metapackage :) | 14:15 |
| merlin1991 | well I do one more thing, I replace the com.nokia.mediaplyer dbus service :) | 14:16 |
| * psycho_oreos does way too many personalisations that if he had to do them again and again it'd kill him. | 14:17 | |
| psycho_oreos | I recall spending at least a good day or two resetting the entire device up according to the way I wanted way before backupmenu existed or when I should have really tried experimenting backupmenu | 14:18 |
| merlin1991 | what do you change on the device? | 14:19 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I checked the pr1.3.1 package list compared to pr1.3 and it only has the package wich we already have + the applet | 14:20 |
| merlin1991 | so one can update without problem, as long as one doesn't install the metapackage on the way | 14:20 |
| psycho_oreos | custom power key menu, custom desktops, custom profiles, custom brightness. wifi, etc settings. desktop activity managers with various widgets and icons all in their right places. individual N900 names (I have 3) with different IP/subnet mask/gateway for all three with USB networking (currently two however) | 14:20 |
| merlin1991 | 3? | 14:20 |
| merlin1991 | how did you end up with 3 n900s? | 14:21 |
| Lava_Croft | i bet he didnt get them for the price of one, thanks to Nokia | 14:21 |
| psycho_oreos | custom bash setups, custom xterminal setting, custom setup with catorise-plus, etc | 14:21 |
| psycho_oreos | merlin1991, I bought the other two over time, one was when I visited HK, and the other one just happens to be a seller local whom was selling it with extras | 14:21 |
| psycho_oreos | Lava_Croft, obviously not :) | 14:21 |
| Lava_Croft | psycho_oreos: :) | 14:21 |
| Lava_Croft | I got two thanks to Nokia Care being silly | 14:22 |
| psycho_oreos | how the hell did that happen? | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | one via local Nokia Care Point, the other via Nokia Care Benelux on (drumroll) Facebook | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | n900 broke, brought it in for fixing, nokia insisted on sending me useless N8s | 14:22 |
| psycho_oreos | lol | 14:22 |
| psycho_oreos | typical | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | i gave up on the local Care Point and started to whine on their facebook page | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | a week later they got me a new n900 via my phonestore, another week later they got me one via the local Care Point | 14:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: yes, but the MP is exactly the problem | 14:23 |
| psycho_oreos | hahahaha nice! | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | i emailed em thanks, ever got a reply | 14:23 |
| psycho_oreos | they didn't say anything afterwards? lol | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | i was smart | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | the second n900 i picked up without the receipt | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | i never saw that one! | 14:23 |
| merlin1991 | lmao | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | screw them for sending me N8, and even more screw them for trying to convince me that Symbian Belle was a reason to choose the N8 over the N900 | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | tard on the phone spent a good 20 minutes trying to convince me to use Symbian^3 | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | he just didnt get it | 14:24 |
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| psycho_oreos | nah its because they don't want to deal with maemo users ;) | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | n900 is EOL | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | Nokia Care _cant_ deal with them | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | except replace with n8 | 14:25 |
| psycho_oreos | they continue to frown the maemo community and they were hoping the owners are just average joe who uses it as a phone.. well guess not! | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | or maybe, after a lot of trouble, an E7 | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | thats not just Nokias fault | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | Vodaphone UK used a lot of N900s to push as upgrades to regular users | 14:26 |
| Lava_Croft | i heard through the grapevine that they bought up a lot of euro N900s for that purpose | 14:26 |
| psycho_oreos | lol vodaphone doing well over there? over here its been dubbed as vodafail | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | Lava_Croft: so there should be some 2nd hand N900 branded vodafone available in UK now? | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | i use vodaphone because they got me a n900 for 'free' | 14:27 |
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| Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer: ebay | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | i have several Uk friends who got their n900 that way | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | psycho_oreos: vodafone works well here, just as well as any other provider | 14:27 |
| psycho_oreos | they sell those N900 in original boxes and what not? | 14:28 |
| Lava_Croft | they are all equally meh to me | 14:28 |
| * DocScrutinizer considersa getting another 2 or 3 N900 | 14:28 | |
| Lava_Croft | they pushed them as upgrades to customers | 14:28 |
| psycho_oreos | Lava_Croft, lol over here they're really crap but hey it seems like they are the only local provider to offer N9 with 64GB on the contrary.. too bad it comes in black | 14:28 |
| psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer, damn you lol :D I so want N950 though :D | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | while fremantle never was ready for joe average dumbass primetime | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | you get n9 via vodafone? | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | n9 isnt officially here:< | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | in the Netherlands | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | i have to use gray import if i want it | 14:29 |
| psycho_oreos | Lava_Croft, yeah you can get N9 through vodafone here | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | :< | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | id only get an n9 for its exterior anyway | 14:30 |
| psycho_oreos | http://shop.vodafone.com.au/mobile-details/buy-nokia-n9-64GB | 14:30 |
| psycho_oreos | if I got N950, I wouldn't want N9 at any rate | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | what's the keymat of UK N900s? | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | is it more like sane qwerty, or more like fsckdup DE wertzu ? | 14:30 |
| * psycho_oreos bets its qwerty | 14:31 | |
| Lava_Croft | why would that be | 14:31 |
| Lava_Croft | its just qwewrty | 14:31 |
| Lava_Croft | qwerty* | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E. 2 or 4 cursor keys? | 14:31 |
| psycho_oreos | thought so | 14:31 |
| Lava_Croft | what use would DE layout make for English | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | they may have char_gbp and whatnot, on that kbd... dunno, that's why I ask | 14:32 |
| psycho_oreos | <Lava_Croft> why would that be <-- was that directed to me? | 14:32 |
| Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer: :) | 14:32 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh ok | 14:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | not that I'm too concerned about GBP char in place of € sign, but I can't stand just 2 cursor keys | 14:33 |
| Lava_Croft | no shit | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | most EU kbds are unbearable wrt that | 14:34 |
| psycho_oreos | I don't understand the concept of 2 or 4 cursor keys | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | look at e.g. DE keymat | 14:35 |
| psycho_oreos | oh wait! arrow | 14:35 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | up/down is FN-left/right, or sth insane like that | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | to make space for GBP, äöü etc | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | while I use the transscription ae, oe, ue even in my german textes | 14:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | I even 'sign' with >>joerg<< rather than jörg | 14:37 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh now I can relate, the umlauts | 14:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | I actually need to get some more spare N900 as long as they are available at all | 14:39 |
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| * DocScrutinizer also has to appreciate there's a thing like screenprotectors, finally. Those are for sure more easy to replace in a few years than the original N900 digitizer touchpanel | 14:41 | |
| DocScrutinizer | a year ago I despised those protectors and had the idea of just getting a new original digitizer whenever due | 14:42 |
| psycho_oreos | hard to know which screen protectors are good too | 14:42 |
| psycho_oreos | might also need one for your N950 and N9 ;) | 14:42 |
| psycho_oreos | especially N950 | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | fsck N950 | 14:42 |
| psycho_oreos | lol | 14:42 |
| psycho_oreos | sad! | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | in 6 months you won't even see any working up-to-date firmware for that device | 14:43 |
| psycho_oreos | you won't see any more maemo updates for N900 either :) | 14:43 |
| jonwil | I keep good care of my N900 so it doesn't get scratched, so far it hasn't been scratched in any way I can see | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | but we can flash and maintain that FW, which btw is what this irc chan is all about - won't fly for N950 ever | 14:44 |
| psycho_oreos | I have my main/original one in otterbox case, the other two are in some generic branded casing. All three have screen protectors on | 14:44 |
| psycho_oreos | well maybe it won't fly for N950 but hey, some RE guy may eventually have a crack at it and succeed :) | 14:45 |
| jonwil | What is preventing this on N950? Just ageis? | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | forget that | 14:45 |
| psycho_oreos | but then its not only that really, N950 is still cool regardless that its unloved more than N9 | 14:45 |
| jonwil | ok, good, no stock N900 vkb files are using any key types other than type 0 | 14:45 |
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| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: did you reach X-Fade about the stabl repo and the cert applet already? | 20:55 |
| merlin1991 | oops, only 3.5 gb of space left on the machine | 21:11 |
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