IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Friday, 2011-11-04

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DataGhosthey I've been trying to figure out how exactly apt-pinning works and I think I came to the conclusion that, with the pin from http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel#Limiting_the_damage enabled, apt will prefer packages from Extras regardless of what other repository they are in12:22
DataGhostso it'll not just prefer them over packages in extras-testing or extras-devel but also over community-testing, am I right?12:22
DataGhostif so, do packages in extras{-*} and community-testing overlap or is it safe for me to continue with this pin intact?12:22
DataGhosthm, never mind I guess, read the package lists and 7 packages are both in community-testing and in extras{-*}: apt, apt-doc, apt-transport-https, apt-utils, libapt-pkg-dev, libapt-pkg-doc and qtquickcompat. I guess it should be ok if I pin these manually somehow12:32
DataGhostseems they all have 'cssu' in the version string :)12:34
DataGhostoh and all but qtquickcompat are in extras-{testing,devel} so I don't have to pin those12:39
DataGhostjust if anyone is reading this sometime, might be useful12:39
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merlin1991DataGhost: if you pin like that apt will prefer other sources over -devel13:25
merlin1991but if you install a specific version that is only in -devel via apt-get install somepackage=develversion13:25
merlin1991it will get installed from devel13:25
merlin1991DataGhost: I had another look at the pin in the wiki well with that pin apt will always prefer extras13:30
merlin1991if the package is in extras13:30
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DataGhostwell, it works now :) I just pinned qtquickcompat with 1002, that'll probably break somewhere in the future but for now cssu is working14:06
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merlin1991MohammadAG: ping16:09
DocScrutinizer*sigh*16:21
DocScrutinizermy teeth kill me16:22
merlin1991ouch16:28
merlin1991autobuilder kills me16:28
merlin1991is there a way to test beforehand with autobuilders rootstrap instead of building 10 billion times utill you found out every single dependency?16:28
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nealmerlin1991: Try dpkg-depcheck16:37
nealmerlin1991: dpkg-depcheck dpkg-buildpackage ...16:37
nealmerlin1991: After the command completes, dpkg-depcheck computes and prints the set of build dependencies.16:38
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merlin1991thanks neal16:43
DocScrutinizerping me when meeting time16:45
merlin1991will do16:46
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DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: ping17:57
* DocScrutinizer afk, ping DocScrutinizer5117:58
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freemangordon_MohammadAG: ping19:13
freemangordon_Time to start?19:14
merlin1991MohammadAG: seems to be mia19:14
freemangordon_hmm, strange19:15
freemangordon_lets give him a couple af minutes19:15
DocScrutinizer51I'm almost here19:18
DocScrutinizer51is yhere amy topics list?19:21
DocScrutinizer51~ping19:22
merlin1991topics list is:19:22
DocScrutinizer51damn19:22
merlin1991cssu stable, wich changes from gitorious -> next testing19:22
DocScrutinizer51~ping19:23
DocScrutinizer51mweh19:23
DocScrutinizer513 minutes19:23
DocScrutinizerre19:25
merlin1991still waiting for MAG19:28
merlin1991I'll sms him19:28
abufaisalCan I say something or just follow you?19:29
freemangordon_sure19:29
merlin1991everyone is allowed to give input :)19:29
xnt14MohammadAG told me to tell everyone that he'll be here in 10 minutes.19:32
DocScrutinizeryou know I hate IRC when I send posts and they go to /dev/null due to connection down19:34
merlin1991:D19:35
merlin1991you need a proper client then that handles that too ;)19:35
DocScrutinizerprotocol doesn't provide any sane means to implement ACKs19:36
DocScrutinizer51this is an 'open' channel - anyway (repost)19:37
abufaisalIs there any thoughts about include Maliit VKB to the CSSU?19:38
merlin1991quassel adds a layer between me and the irc server wich has acks, so unless my root server looses connection I do have that feature19:38
DocScrutinizerI'm more and more favouring a client-server design that uses a "proprietary" protocol between the IRC proxy box and the mobile client user agent19:38
DocScrutinizerexactly :-D19:39
merlin1991abufaisal: I don't remember that beeing brought to discussion yet (at least in here)19:39
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: yep quassel does exactly that :P19:39
DocScrutinizerabufaisal: why would it need to go to CSSU?19:39
merlin1991it has a portrait vkbd19:39
DocScrutinizerwell, that's no reason19:39
DocScrutinizerwhy can't it go to extras?19:40
merlin1991and replacing the system vkbd isn't exactly a thing you can do from extras19:40
DocScrutinizer:-P19:40
DocScrutinizerack19:40
sam23m+1 for maliit vkb, or maybe a fixed version of the portrait default vkb19:41
merlin1991afaik default vkbd is closed source19:41
abufaisalIf the CSSU will support the portrait screen, then the VKB should support it as well19:41
freemangordon_well, it is a good idea to have proper portrait keyboard, just I am not sure if maliit is the correct choice19:41
freemangordon_it is qt, with its high memory requirements19:42
DocScrutinizer51eeew19:42
DocScrutinizer51is the stock vkbd open?19:43
freemangordon_the UI is closed19:43
DocScrutinizer51if not, is jonwil interested in REing it?19:43
freemangordon_YEEAAH19:43
freemangordon_he was searching for the next victim19:44
DocScrutinizer51yup19:44
DocScrutinizer51that's why I said that19:44
freemangordon_unfortunately he is missing19:44
DocScrutinizer51vmsg infobot join #maemo-ssu19:45
freemangordon_hildon VKB should be easier than libflashplayer :D19:45
DocScrutinizergrrr bitch19:46
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infobotOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer)19:46
DocScrutinizer~seen jonwil19:46
infobotjonwil <~jonwil@27-33-137-199.static.tpgi.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3h 50m 3s ago, saying: 'should probably stop doing all this N900 work and clean up my pigsty of an apartment ready for a rent-inspection in just under 2 weeks :)'.19:46
freemangordon_hmm19:47
DocScrutinizeroffline19:47
MohammadAGfucking laptop19:48
DocScrutinizer~lart MohammadAG19:48
* infobot shoots MohammadAG in the head19:48
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, I had to take someone to the doc19:48
MohammadAGand 2) my laptop wouldn't start19:48
DocScrutinizer:-/19:48
MohammadAGthe cooling fan doesn't spin, POST disables startup19:48
DocScrutinizerwell now you are here :-D19:48
MohammadAGyeah, laptop met ground19:48
MohammadAGthey got along and it started19:48
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MohammadAGYou can start the meeting, I have something to do, just need 5 mins19:49
MohammadAGagain, sorry19:49
DocScrutinizernp19:49
freemangordon_ok, do we take the decision to as jonwil about RE hildon VKB19:49
freemangordon_ask*19:49
DocScrutinizeryea19:50
RST38hMohammad: Got a question19:50
sam23myes please19:50
RST38hMohammad: When you were liberating that Skype support from the remote access N9, have you forgotten to copy over the Skype icon?19:50
DocScrutinizerRST38h: wrong chan19:51
RST38hMohammad: Or have you actually copied it over, but some issue with Aegis is preventing it from install/show up19:51
RST38hDoc: I am not sure is Mohammad is on #harmattan19:51
DocScrutinizerplease take it to #harmattan19:51
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DocScrutinizerwe got a 'meeting' here right now19:51
DocScrutinizersee /topic19:51
RST38hSorry.19:51
RST38hYeah19:52
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DocScrutinizer(52 min late XP )19:52
freemangordon_so, lets continue from where our last discussion stopped19:52
freemangordon_next actions will be19:53
DocScrutinizerRST38h: actually it's you who's not on #harmattan19:53
freemangordon_1. new CSSU update with fixes from gitorious ASAP19:53
RST38hI am19:53
freemangordon_please19:53
DocScrutinizerYES19:54
RST38hfreaking shit ... sorry^219:54
DocScrutinizerAIUI we were told by MohammadAG he's not going to publish it without those 1.3.1 "fixes" from Nokia19:54
freemangordon_2. wait a week or two or whatever period and branch that to stable19:54
freemangordon_why is that?19:55
DocScrutinizerdunno19:55
merlin1991afaik 1.3.1 is out in the wild?19:55
freemangordon_ok, then there could another "testing" with only Nokia update included19:55
DocScrutinizeranyway my suggestion been toi branch to stable immediately and backport those things19:55
DocScrutinizeras branching doesn'T mean publishing19:56
DocScrutinizermerlin1991: is src out in the wild?19:56
freemangordon_based on which source code?19:56
DocScrutinizerbranch?19:56
freemangordon_yep19:56
DocScrutinizer16.819:56
freemangordon_it has bugs19:56
DocScrutinizeras that's "stable"19:56
freemangordon_no, it is not19:56
merlin199116.8 isn't stable19:56
DocScrutinizeryeah, implement your fixes19:56
DocScrutinizernothing is ever "stable"19:57
freemangordon_yeah, but we have known bugs and fixes for them.19:57
merlin1991well 16.8 - camera-ui - modest would be "stable"19:57
DocScrutinizersomebody (?) suggested to leave out nicocam19:57
DocScrutinizerand modest19:57
merlin1991that was me19:57
DocScrutinizerI fully support this approach19:57
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freemangordon_ok, what is left then?19:58
* merlin1991 gotta check something19:58
MohammadAGback19:58
freemangordon_hi19:58
DocScrutinizer\o/19:58
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: you can add your patches to testing, and then backport/merge to stable19:59
DocScrutinizerAIUI that'S the way git is used19:59
freemangordon_agree19:59
freemangordon_but then only Qt and diginotar fixes will be in stable19:59
merlin1991yeah I went over the other packages we have and 16.8 - camera-ui and -modest is stable19:59
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, I was going to push an update without Nokia's fixes, but they're already out anyway19:59
DocScrutinizerplus *all* the other goodies19:59
MohammadAG1.3.1 is out19:59
DocScrutinizersource?20:00
MohammadAGmerlin1991, modest from git is stable afaik20:00
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, no source for the applet20:00
MohammadAGit's closed20:00
MohammadAGwe're copying the applet's binary20:00
DocScrutinizeraah, so you just pull it in to CSSU20:00
DocScrutinizerack20:00
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MohammadAGyeah, it was suggest to just depend on it20:00
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DocScrutinizerk20:00
merlin1991MohammadAG: wer're trying to create an approach where we deem things stable if they've been stable in the testing branch20:00
DocScrutinizerno concerns about that here20:00
merlin1991as in the realease of testing contains the code already20:00
MohammadAGbut I refused since that can make issues20:01
DocScrutinizersure20:01
MohammadAGso we asked to copy it over20:01
DocScrutinizernevertheless we can have a stable branch *now* that has none of the "untested" things20:01
DocScrutinizermerge those things later20:01
merlin1991freemangordon_: stable would include hildon-desktop, home.. too20:01
freemangordon_if we assume they are stable20:02
freemangordon_where is arcean?20:02
DocScrutinizerI'd assume they are stable, yes20:02
merlin199116.8 h-d is stable I'd say20:02
DocScrutinizerok20:02
DocScrutinizer#agreed: 18.8 h-d is fit for stable20:02
freemangordon_because hd has fixes on gitorious too AFAIK, let me check20:02
DocScrutinizer16.820:02
DocScrutinizermeh20:02
MohammadAGUmm, can someone set up a quick minutes bot?20:03
MohammadAGlike the #meego-meeting one20:04
DocScrutinizerdefinition: "stable" means: it's a valid replacement for a stock component that "fixes" things without introducing known new bugs that are as bad or worse than the originally fixed things20:04
freemangordon_Blacklist: improved support for games. Fix for portrait wallpapers. Prevent hildon-desktop crash when snap_grid_size == 0.20:04
DocScrutinizerNFC about meet bot20:04
freemangordon_is not in 16.820:04
merlin1991MAG20:05
merlin1991h-d on gitorious is out of sync20:05
merlin1991WTF?20:05
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MohammadAGhow?20:05
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: is any of that a regression from stock?20:05
freemangordon_seems so20:05
merlin1991changelog there is still @ 1:2.2.142-1520:05
merlin1991isn't 16.8 -16?20:05
MohammadAGnot sure, /me checks20:05
merlin1991I knew I should cross checked sources when doing the latest changelog fix :D20:06
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: I think at least snap=0 segfault is a genuine Nokia bug, WONTFIX20:06
merlin1991hildon-desktop (>= 1:2.2.142-16)20:06
merlin1991from mp-fremantle-community-pr20:06
merlin1991so you h-d gitorious is out of sync20:06
merlin1991s/you/yes/20:07
infobotmerlin1991 meant: so yes h-d gitorious is out of sync20:07
DocScrutinizeranyway, again: branching is not a *snapshot*20:07
MohammadAGmerlin1991, updating, yes it's out of sync20:07
MohammadAGdone20:08
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, I think that was fixed20:08
freemangordon_hmm20:08
merlin1991so yeah h-d on gitorious is h-d in current testing20:08
freemangordon_i still prefer another testing on which to base first stable20:08
merlin1991no new fixes there20:08
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: ??20:09
MohammadAGOk, so right now everything besides camera-ui is stable20:09
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: please elaborate20:09
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, he means we should push a new update then branch20:09
merlin1991freemangordon_: another testing would bring in camerea-ui and modest but we could include them with stable release2 too20:09
freemangordon_to release another testing tobay or tomorrow20:09
MohammadAGAnd I kind of agree on that20:09
freemangordon_*today20:09
DocScrutinizerinsane20:09
DataGhostsomething else: judging by the gconf structure for the hildon-desktop/applets, wouldn't it be fairly easy to implement a view_portrait property so one can choose to have different widgets on the screen (view X if you will) depending on the orientation and if so, is such a feature planned for hildon-desktop some time in the near future?20:09
MohammadAGsince the current release is 99% stable20:09
DocScrutinizeryes20:09
MohammadAGDataGhost, the applets can already detect that20:10
DocScrutinizerso we should branch *NOW*20:10
freemangordon_to wait a week or two and then branch to stabe20:10
DocScrutinizerand not add new bits to testing20:10
merlin1991MohammadAG: branching later might be more convenient, but we'd also put pressure on the team20:10
DocScrutinizerprior to branching stable20:10
DataGhostMohammadAG how does that work? I mean that I have applet x in landscape and applet y in portrait, is that the same you're referring to?20:10
DataGhostwould like to have*20:10
merlin1991branching now would create a transistion period but would easy the workflow20:10
MohammadAGDataGhost, they can detect _size_changed20:10
DataGhostMohammadAG yes but it'll still be the same widget/applet, right?20:11
DocScrutinizerbranchin is NOT a snapshot, it's not the golden master20:11
freemangordon_ok, lets count what will be in stable if we branch now20:11
freemangordon_hd, hildon-home20:11
merlin1991qt20:12
merlin1991vte fixes20:12
freemangordon_qt in 16.8 causes vlc-remote to segfault20:12
MohammadAGDataGhost, yes, maintainer needs to update the source20:12
DocScrutinizerall minus (nicocam diginotar ???)20:12
MohammadAGfreemangordon_, didn't you fix that20:12
freemangordon_only on gitorious20:12
freemangordon_it is not in the wild20:12
MohammadAGno, diginotar will be pulled20:12
DocScrutinizeraah, yes20:13
freemangordon_and minus modest20:13
MohammadAGactually we're on the same version as Nokia's20:13
MohammadAGso we can either depend on Nokia's or ours20:13
DataGhostMohammadAG ok but that's not really what I mean, I want to have i.e. a data counter in portrait and a clock (so no data counter) in landscape20:13
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: that (modest) was my ???20:14
DocScrutinizerforgot20:14
MohammadAGbut the maintainer has emailed me20:14
MohammadAGCertificates will be updated alongside mozilla's20:14
DocScrutinizerDataGhost: can we discuss this later please20:14
freemangordon_^^^20:14
MohammadAGDataGhost, file a bug under enhancements - hildon-desktop20:15
DataGhostok20:15
freemangordon_hildon-application-manager stabe?20:15
freemangordon_stable?20:15
merlin1991yes20:15
DocScrutinizeryes20:15
merlin1991no changes since a few veresions20:15
merlin1991even though DocScrutinizer dislikes that it's portrait enabled ;)20:15
DocScrutinizerstill fucks up in portrait I think, but I don't care as that'S no *regression*20:15
freemangordon_I am sure it likes it since his bug was shot dead :p20:16
freemangordon_he*20:16
freemangordon_next is status-area-orientationlock-applet20:16
merlin1991what was the fucked up thing in portrait?20:16
merlin1991freemangordon_: that actually is a point of discussion20:16
DocScrutinizermerlin1991: details iirc20:17
merlin1991a few people have said to make this opt-in20:17
DocScrutinizeryes!20:17
merlin1991and I actually understand that20:17
DocScrutinizernot a blocker for stable20:17
DocScrutinizera todo for testing20:17
merlin1991h-d does not need it, but people might need it, so stable yes, but opt-in I'd say20:18
freemangordon_TBH there should be CSSU supported configuration application20:18
DocScrutinizeropt-in *only* if that's a no-brainer20:18
DocScrutinizerfor stable20:18
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: opt-in is a no-brainer as in don't depend on it point20:18
DocScrutinizerk20:18
merlin1991the whole applet is self containing so it can be installed from ham if wanted20:18
DocScrutinizerack20:18
freemangordon_how whould that be implemented?20:18
DocScrutinizervery nice20:19
freemangordon_ok20:19
merlin1991we'd need to adjust teh section I think20:19
freemangordon_scratch my last question20:19
* DocScrutinizer scratches20:19
freemangordon_10x20:19
freemangordon_osso-xterm20:19
merlin1991stable20:20
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freemangordon_seems stable20:20
MohammadAGbe back in 10 mins20:20
DocScrutinizerWFM20:20
merlin1991it's the vte fix afaik20:20
merlin1991wfm?20:20
freemangordon_it is another package20:20
DocScrutinizer~wfm20:20
infobotwell, wfm is (Wired For Management Baseline) This is an Intel hardware specification that is designed to allow for compliance with easier management of desktop PCs in a networked environment. The specification calls for computers to be compatible with a pre-boot protocol that can be used to update the system or perform other management options. Also, the computer must be compatible with network/desktop management applications..  Works For Me20:20
DocScrutinizerWTF20:20
DocScrutinizerWorksForMe20:20
merlin1991:D20:20
freemangordon_next20:20
freemangordon_osso-pdf-viewer20:21
merlin1991stable20:21
freemangordon_stable AFAIK20:21
DocScrutinizervte fix is ultrastable and ultra-welcome20:21
DocScrutinizernever tested20:21
merlin1991freemangordon_: are you by any chance writing this down too? :D20:21
DocScrutinizer(pdf)20:21
freemangordon_sure ;)20:21
DocScrutinizerwe got chanlog20:21
freemangordon_next is maemo-statusmenu-fmtx20:21
merlin1991pdf had issues but the latest one is stable now20:21
DocScrutinizer~logs20:21
infobotAll conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23maemo%2dssu/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily.20:21
freemangordon_stable20:22
merlin1991stable20:22
DocScrutinizer:shrug: no issues20:22
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: logs != nice and already done list ;20:22
DocScrutinizersure20:22
DocScrutinizer:)20:22
freemangordon_and now becomes qt20:22
DocScrutinizer?20:22
merlin1991you say it segfaults something?20:22
merlin1991we need qt though20:23
merlin1991otherwise we can't do h-d20:23
freemangordon_why?20:23
freemangordon_its is gtk20:23
freemangordon_ahaa20:23
merlin1991portrait launching of apps20:23
freemangordon_yeah20:23
merlin1991qt bug fixed in cssu qt20:23
freemangordon_and several other issues20:23
freemangordon_ok, no option then20:23
merlin1991the only thing is, that segfault you wrote about, what was the fix?20:24
DocScrutinizerlemme put it this way: I'm using 16.8 (and some 2 predecessor revs) on my daily phone and see no issues on my daily needs with it20:24
DocScrutinizerI fixed it to gui-may-rotate=no or whatever though20:25
freemangordon_it is bundled in diginotar patch20:25
merlin1991mind to give a gitorious link?20:25
freemangordon_https://www.gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/commit/e0bb7881798b99fb6870a4f3371e7d6948de29e320:26
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: so we get a T-17.0 with freemangordon_ 's fixes to modest (et al) plus diginotar today?20:27
merlin1991freemangordon_: I'd say qt is in use and stable enough for now, put pulling those fixes will be a priority20:27
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: could you repeat what were those "tested" (as by 5+ users say WFM) patches of you that need merging?20:27
freemangordon_modest and tinymail20:28
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo everything after mmitted 4d0a3b4c on September 07,20:28
freemangordon_need gitorious links?20:28
merlin1991ah sry /me was thinking qt20:28
DocScrutinizerok, so branch stable before(?) these, and kick out modest/tiny ?20:29
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freemangordon_you said so20:29
merlin1991branch before + kick was the general opinion so far20:29
DocScrutinizeryes20:29
merlin1991assuming freemangordon_ goes by the gitorious page we'll get to that though20:29
DocScrutinizerthen also today mege freemangordon_ to T and build T-1720:29
merlin1991lets not fuck up his system :D20:30
freemangordon_yep20:30
freemangordon_next is osso-calculator20:30
merlin1991stable20:30
freemangordon_seems stale and is not a critical20:30
freemangordon_part20:30
merlin1991has bin in 16.8 and works as expected20:30
DocScrutinizerso we got a S-16.8 w/o modest/nicocam, and a T-17-all-fresh20:30
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: so far yes20:30
DocScrutinizerfine, hope MohammadAG has no concerns20:31
freemangordon_does anyone know what that freetype is?20:31
merlin1991font rendering20:31
freemangordon_and is it in testing at all20:31
DocScrutinizertime for 12648430   ☕20:31
merlin1991some mapping application had a problem with it20:31
* merlin1991 checks20:31
DocScrutinizerbbiam20:32
merlin1991freemangordon_: heasn't seen testing so far20:33
freemangordon_ok, enough20:33
freemangordon_next is libhildonfm20:33
freemangordon_stable20:33
merlin1991what is that?20:33
freemangordon_hildon file manager library20:33
arceanmorning ;)20:34
merlin1991according to gitorious it has no cssu version so far20:34
freemangordon_there was some portrait mode fix AFAIK20:34
freemangordon_hi arcean20:34
merlin1991I'm checking20:34
freemangordon_not in wild?20:34
DocScrutinizer\o/20:34
arceanhi freemangordon_20:34
arceanlibhildonfm is stable20:34
merlin1991MohammadAG: libhildonfm on gitorious is out of sync20:34
merlin1991freemangordon_: I'd say stable20:35
freemangordon_and it is included in CSSU 16.8?20:35
merlin1991I didn't even notice it is there20:35
arceanyes20:35
freemangordon_ok20:35
merlin1991yes it's included but gitorious is out of sync20:35
freemangordon_where is MohammadAG?20:35
DocScrutinizerwho's in duty of syncing such stuff?20:35
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: mag for -testing20:36
* amiconn did not have any problems with cssu modest fwiw20:36
freemangordon_next is gst-plugins-bad20:36
freemangordon_nikolai fixed some GPS precision stuff20:36
DocScrutinizero.O20:36
DocScrutinizerraletd?20:37
DocScrutinizerrelated?20:37
freemangordon_not tested with stock camera20:37
DocScrutinizergst vs GPS20:37
DocScrutinizerAAAH20:37
DocScrutinizerfsck20:37
freemangordon_picture coordinates precision20:37
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merlin1991camera gst stubsystem I guess20:37
merlin1991seems to be stable20:37
freemangordon_yes20:37
freemangordon_but with nikocam20:38
freemangordon_never tested with stock20:38
freemangordon_AFAIK20:38
merlin1991lemme test it20:38
freemangordon_that would be enough?20:38
DocScrutinizermake a note, test it later ;-)20:38
freemangordon_lets not put that in stable for now20:38
merlin1991true20:38
freemangordon_ok20:39
DocScrutinizeryeah, I'd say risjk is low as the new gst should be designed to be compatible, as should nicocam20:39
merlin1991we're not taking cam so cam doesn't depend on it20:39
freemangordon_yep20:39
DocScrutinizerindeed20:39
merlin1991we can evaluate that for next stable together with cam20:39
freemangordon_next20:39
freemangordon_gtk20:39
merlin1991needed afaik20:39
merlin1991also stable20:39
freemangordon_stable20:39
DocScrutinizerstable20:39
freemangordon_qtquickcompat dummy package, needed by qt20:40
freemangordon_next is gnome-vfs-filechooser-backend20:40
merlin1991qtquickcompat too20:41
merlin1991needed to get included20:41
merlin1991otherwise qt will break20:41
freemangordon_there is a fix for leafpad trying to issue FAT IOCTL on device drivers :D20:41
freemangordon_seems stable20:41
arceanyep, stable so far20:41
merlin1991is it already in testing?20:42
freemangordon_yep20:42
merlin1991stable so far then20:42
freemangordon_there was an issue reported by an user20:42
freemangordon_that FAT hidden folders are visible in file manager20:43
DocScrutinizerlol20:43
DocScrutinizershowstopper20:43
freemangordon_but I don't think that as a blocker20:43
DocScrutinizer:-P20:43
merlin1991is that new? or is that in stock too?20:43
freemangordon_new20:43
freemangordon_but no bug raised20:43
DocScrutinizerstill funny20:43
merlin1991well we'll look into it, but defenitely nothing abotu stable/unstable20:43
DocScrutinizerthat's not a bug, that'S a feature ;-D20:43
merlin1991that's more a cosmetic thing :P20:43
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, hopefully20:44
freemangordon_seems he is the only one who puts porn on hidden EMMC folders :D20:44
MohammadAGnow comes the fun part20:44
MohammadAGmy laptop fan is far from stable20:44
MohammadAGI did a stress test and it immediately turned off20:44
arceanis it overheating? :P20:44
MohammadAGso I would greatly appreciate it if someone compiles and uploads binaries20:44
merlin1991MohammadAG: libhildonfm on gitorious is out of sync, and FU YOU laptop, keep beeing stable20:44
merlin1991MohammadAG: I can do that20:44
MohammadAGarcean, yes, no fan does that20:44
arceanhehe20:45
freemangordon_you can try to blow hard against it20:45
MohammadAGfreemangordon_, that's how I start it20:45
freemangordon_noping the dust will fall20:45
arceanyea, cleaning should do the job20:45
DocScrutinizervacuum cleaner ;-P20:45
MohammadAGit thinks the fan's spinning20:45
merlin1991MohammadAG: I've got a clean scratchbox to start from here so I could do the compiling for you20:45
freemangordon_not hard enough if it is not stable20:45
MohammadAGI disassembled 19 screws20:45
MohammadAGcouldn't open it20:45
MohammadAGso I screwed them back, there's an extra screw20:45
freemangordon_remove the keyboard first20:45
MohammadAGoh, I have to do that?20:46
freemangordon_there are screws on the top20:46
freemangordon_anway20:46
MohammadAGyeah20:46
freemangordon_anyway20:46
MohammadAGmerlin1991, ok :)20:46
merlin1991MohammadAG: libhildonfm sync plase20:46
MohammadAGmerlin1991, doing that20:46
freemangordon_^^^20:46
MohammadAGdone20:46
freemangordon_ok20:46
merlin1991thx20:46
freemangordon_next is qt-mobility20:47
merlin1991empty so far20:47
MohammadAGnew Qt needs a recompilation of it20:47
freemangordon_MohammadAG do we need that?20:47
freemangordon_are you sure?20:47
DocScrutinizer*burp*20:47
MohammadAGyes20:47
MohammadAGthat's why we pushed Qt Mobility20:47
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MohammadAGthere are no fixes20:47
DocScrutinizerqtmob needs a nuke to where no sun shines20:47
MohammadAGso it's nokia stock recompiled20:47
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, true, but that's not our problem :p20:48
freemangordon_and it is on the field?20:48
MohammadAGyes, ever since we pushed Qt 4.7.420:48
freemangordon_mp-...-community-pr depends on that?20:48
freemangordon_ok20:48
MohammadAGyes20:48
freemangordon_forgive the old man20:48
merlin1991:)20:48
freemangordon_:D20:48
merlin1991so "stable"20:49
freemangordon_apt?20:49
DocScrutinizerthere's been that idiotic black-on-black or whatever issue (among others) - is that fixed?20:49
freemangordon_stable20:49
merlin1991apt is stable20:49
freemangordon_doc, don't ask that , please20:49
DocScrutinizerin qt4.7.4 on highlighted text20:49
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, yeah, that was fixed20:49
DocScrutinizerk20:49
MohammadAGit was a compilation flag apparently20:49
merlin1991optimization flags killed the raster engine20:50
merlin1991that was together with all the other funky rendering bugs20:50
DocScrutinizereeeeek20:50
freemangordon_next20:50
freemangordon_maemo-security-certman20:50
freemangordon_stable20:50
MohammadAGFrom PR1.3.120:50
DocScrutinizer*burp* again20:50
freemangordon_it is already in CSSU20:51
MohammadAGthat too20:51
freemangordon_how?20:51
freemangordon_we are talking about stable20:51
merlin1991from gitorious there is no fix on it we could simply depend on the one from 1.3.120:52
DocScrutinizerso let's do that?20:52
freemangordon_ok20:52
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: at least the fixed version hasn't even seen testing20:52
freemangordon_because on PR 1.3.1 there was a big bold red label saying "CSSU users, do not update"20:53
DocScrutinizeryeah20:53
DocScrutinizerand somebody claimed he had problems with installing CSSU from PR1.3.120:53
DocScrutinizersome days ago20:54
DocScrutinizermaybe PEBCAK20:54
freemangordon_MohammadAG ^^^20:54
DocScrutinizerEOVERTEMP20:54
merlin1991:D20:55
DocScrutinizer~lart MohammadAG's hardware20:55
* infobot teaches MohammadAG's hardware the basics, including how to RTM20:55
merlin1991X-Fade: ping20:55
merlin1991well untill MohammadAG is back I've got another input20:56
DocScrutinizerIs that just me or is it actually a bit scary and weird that whole maemo community depends on moh's laptop fan?20:56
merlin1991whatabout the mainting of the stable branch, shove it onto MohammadAGs shoulders or get someone else todo it?20:56
DocScrutinizersee above20:56
merlin1991I think he has enough todo with all the stuff in -testing20:57
DocScrutinizeryep20:57
freemangordon_merlin1991, AIUI you wanted to maintain that20:57
merlin1991:D20:57
DocScrutinizerI'm a trolling noob so obviously merlin1991 has to do it20:57
freemangordon_agree20:58
merlin1991I'm offering todo that, but not based on trolling noob statements, or if someone else better skilled offers todo it :)20:58
DocScrutinizerjust saying I lack the competence20:59
DocScrutinizerso nobody but you left over20:59
freemangordon_:D20:59
freemangordon_agree20:59
arceanso, everybody votes for merlin1991 :D20:59
merlin1991hm we need to get X-Fade in here20:59
freemangordon_sure20:59
freemangordon_ok, so far the list, please double check if it is in/complete21:00
freemangordon_hd hildon-home HAM status-area-orientationlock-applet osso-xterm osso-pdf-viewer maemo-statusmenu-fmtx qt osso-calculator  libhildonfm gtk qtquickcompat gnome-vfs-filechooser-backend qt-mobility apt maemo-security-certman21:00
freemangordon_oops21:01
DocScrutinizerno pkg oops found in cssu-testing21:01
DocScrutinizer;-)21:01
nox-moin21:01
arceanwhat about hildon-status-menu?21:01
freemangordon_with the note that mp-fremantle-...-pr should not depend on status-area-orientationlock-applet21:01
DocScrutinizernox-: \o/ :)21:01
DocScrutinizernox-: you're late for the fun21:02
merlin1991arcean: yeah that is missing on the list .)21:02
nox-do i see that right the pr1.3.1 update the autoupdating offers doesnt touch the kernel?21:02
freemangordon_arcean thanks21:02
nox-DocScrutinizer, which fun? :)21:02
arceanahh, ok :)21:02
freemangordon_hildon-status-menu too21:02
DocScrutinizercssu-stable meeting21:02
nox-oh21:02
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* nox- still on pr 1.3...21:02
freemangordon_THE list, again21:02
freemangordon_hd hildon-home HAM status-area-orientationlock-applet osso-xterm osso-pdf-viewer maemo-statusmenu-fmtx qt osso-calculator  libhildonfm gtk qtquickcompat gnome-vfs-filechooser-backend qt-mobility apt maemo-security-certman hildon-status-menu21:03
freemangordon_doc, oops is on kernel repo :p21:03
nox-thats the updated packages in 1.3.1?21:03
DocScrutinizerfreemangordon_: lol, right21:03
merlin1991nox-: that's the list of packages we consider for a "stable" branch21:03
DocScrutinizernox-: we're in a meeting about cssu-stable21:04
merlin1991branching from current cssu21:04
nox-ah ok21:04
nox-cool21:04
merlin1991general concensus is to create a stable and push the new stuff on gitorious to -testing21:04
freemangordon_guys, hildon-control-panel21:04
arceanhmm, hildon-control-panel and FOSS applets are considered as unstable?21:04
DocScrutinizerin that sequene21:04
merlin1991freemangordon_: checking21:05
freemangordon_arcean why is that?21:05
nox-ah my q was ECHAN...  sorry :)21:05
DocScrutinizerHCP occasionally acts up on me, no idea if that's CSSU related or a regression21:05
merlin1991hildon-control-panel is stabel21:05
freemangordon_agree21:05
freemangordon_stable21:05
arceanfreemangordon_: because they are not on your list ;)21:05
DocScrutinizer:nod:21:05
DocScrutinizerby any metrics of stable21:05
freemangordon_then add the21:06
freemangordon_them*21:06
freemangordon_;P21:06
arcean:D21:06
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: any changes to cp on cssu are portrait mode and taking screenshots more often21:06
freemangordon_the list is still not complete, i just went through critical system parts21:06
DocScrutinizer:nod:21:06
DocScrutinizeras I never use portrait, I can't comment21:06
arcean+= libcpaboutcssu osso-applet-display osso-applet-notificationlight hildon-control-panel21:06
merlin1991portrait works21:07
DocScrutinizerlibcpaboutcssu stable21:07
merlin1991libcaboutcssu ofc stable and needed :D21:07
DocScrutinizer:-P21:07
freemangordon_arcean what is osso-applet-notificationlight21:07
freemangordon_?21:07
DocScrutinizeryeah21:07
DocScrutinizerbeat me21:07
arceanthe notification applet21:07
arceanwhere you can configure LED behaviour21:08
DocScrutinizeraaaaah21:08
freemangordon_aaaah21:08
DocScrutinizerjust the settings plugin?21:08
freemangordon_ok, stable21:08
merlin1991osso applet display is stable21:08
merlin1991DocScrutinizer:  yes21:08
DocScrutinizerstable21:08
freemangordon_stable21:08
merlin1991both applets stable21:09
freemangordon_is status-menu-applet-profiles in a wild?21:09
DocScrutinizerhildon control panel sucks donkey balls, but I don't mind21:09
DocScrutinizerit's an add on anyway21:09
merlin1991don't think it is, but chacking21:10
merlin1991nah isn't21:10
freemangordon_ok21:10
freemangordon_the latest revision21:11
freemangordon_hd hildon-home HAM status-area-orientationlock-applet osso-xterm osso-pdf-viewer maemo-statusmenu-fmtx qt osso-calculator  libhildonfm gtk qtquickcompat gnome-vfs-filechooser-backend qt-mobility apt maemo-security-certman hildon-status-menu hildon-control-panel libcpaboutcssu osso-applet-display osso-applet-notificationlight21:11
freemangordon_BTW i didn't get what mag said about  maemo-security-certman21:11
arceanit's currently included in cssu21:12
arceans/in/into21:12
freemangordon_because if we depend on Nokia's fixes, then the list is incomplete21:12
DocScrutinizer51fuck my kbd died21:12
merlin1991lmao21:12
merlin1991todays the day of hardware fails21:12
freemangordon_keep your fan man21:12
freemangordon_:p21:12
DocScrutinizer(if hildon control pannel is the settings thing for CSSU details etc - if not scratch my comm21:13
DocScrutinizer(if hildon control pannel is the settings thing for CSSU details etc - if not scratch my comm21:13
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: hildon-control-panel is the whole thing you get when you open "settings" in the launcher21:13
DocScrutinizerpffff21:13
freemangordon_yeah, the "settings" thing21:14
DocScrutinizernow at leastv a fsckdup usb kbd plugged in21:14
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freemangordon_merlin1991 seems the list is almost full, keep it on a safe place21:15
freemangordon_it is missing nokia's packages21:15
DocScrutinizeroh dammit, I need zto boot my PC21:15
DocScrutinizernot now though21:15
freemangordon_wondoze?21:15
freemangordon_windoze?21:15
DocScrutinizerhere?21:15
DocScrutinizernah21:15
freemangordon_just asking?21:16
merlin1991another thing to think about21:16
DocScrutinizerlinux laptop, kbd MC locked up21:16
merlin1991how do we name the stable realeases?21:16
DocScrutinizerhappens once every 10 months21:16
merlin1991current testing is 20.2010.36-2maemo16.821:16
DocScrutinizer(last time it happened I hot-replugged the kbd)21:17
MohammadAGmerlin1991, requesting input21:17
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merlin1991aka PR 1.3.3.7-10.821:17
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MohammadAGhad to cool the mofo21:17
merlin1991MohammadAG: we were thinking about getting someone else but you for the stable branch so the work is splitted21:18
freemangordon_CPR?21:18
freemangordon_and start from 1.021:18
merlin1991as in the one who compiles and uploads21:18
MohammadAGmerlin1991, good idea tbh21:18
MohammadAGFYI21:19
MohammadAGnext update will not be 20.2010...21:19
merlin1991so we'd just need X-Fade then21:19
MohammadAGwe'll go back to what PR1.3.1 is21:19
MohammadAGsuppose it's 321:19
freemangordon_what do you think about CPR 1.0 as in community PR21:19
MohammadAG3.2011.whatever-2maemo121:19
MohammadAGAs in version 1 of CSSU from PR1.3.121:20
merlin1991that's for testing21:20
merlin1991but for stable?21:20
MohammadAGsame?21:20
MohammadAGversion 121:20
freemangordon_why?21:20
merlin1991how do you distinguish on the device from stable to testing?21:20
merlin1991only by the current sources.list?21:20
DocScrutinizeryeha please keep at least stable and T in sync with naming21:20
freemangordon_doc why?21:20
freemangordon_those are different branches21:21
MohammadAGhere's what we have on git21:21
MohammadAGwhich is part of the internal build version21:21
MohammadAG20.2010.36-2maemo1521:21
MohammadAG(Note: 20.2010.36-2 is the latest official Nokia version.21:21
MohammadAGThe number after it indicates the Community SSU release version.)21:21
DocScrutinizeras you want speaking versions21:21
MohammadAGlatest Nokia version is up21:21
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: I'd suggest the same naming scheme but somewhere a hint that it's the stable release21:21
DocScrutinizersure, a fat uppercase S for Stable21:21
freemangordon_20.2010.41-3maemo1-stable?21:22
freemangordon_or that won't work with apt21:22
DocScrutinizernfc21:22
merlin1991freemangordon_: testing -> stable is a reflash anyway21:22
DocScrutinizerOMFG it is?21:22
freemangordon_hope not21:23
merlin1991well either that or it's maintainer hell21:23
freemangordon_aaah21:23
merlin1991we'd have to depend on exact versions each release21:23
DocScrutinizercan't it just be an "update"?21:23
freemangordon_ang developers hell, as we wouldn't know which exactly SW is on the device21:24
DocScrutinizer*burp*21:24
DocScrutinizerI'm afraid you're right21:24
freemangordon_no, flash is needed. anyway i think most of those using testing will stay with it21:24
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: current mp-fremantle-community-pr always depends on each package >= the vereison at realese day21:24
merlin1991so a testing-> stable move would keep most testing packages since their versions are highger21:25
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freemangordon_and both should conflict21:25
merlin1991also I mean testing->stable in the future21:25
merlin1991from current testing to new stable should be a clean transistion21:26
DocScrutinizerhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel#Limiting_the_damage21:26
freemangordon_don't think so, modest and camera-ui are already installed21:26
merlin1991freemangordon_: with exceptions :)21:26
freemangordon_which will lead to a complete mess21:27
merlin1991but I can't think of a way to transparently move to stable21:27
DocScrutinizerindeed21:27
freemangordon_reflash21:27
merlin1991it's go from nokia pr or be doomed I fear21:27
DocScrutinizeryup21:28
freemangordon_yup21:28
DocScrutinizera pita but meh21:28
freemangordon_sad but true21:28
freemangordon_:D21:28
merlin1991If you know all the packages you can do it by hand, but everyone outside our small group will have a hard time doing that21:28
freemangordon_did we decide on the name?21:28
merlin1991nope21:28
DocScrutinizername?21:29
merlin1991of stable pr21:29
freemangordon_TBH i really don't care21:29
DocScrutinizersucking snail or what?21:29
DocScrutinizereasily pronouncable as f*cking fail XP21:30
DocScrutinizerhonestly, what name?21:30
merlin1991well we are going to incorporate pr 1.3.1 in some way so it's going to be x.2011.xmaemo1 anyway21:30
DocScrutinizerwe got a name anywhere, ecxept CSSU?21:30
merlin1991err maemo021:30
merlin1991just the question where to put the S for stable21:30
freemangordon_guys, yes21:30
freemangordon_oops21:31
freemangordon_yes, we have it21:31
freemangordon_current is  20.2010.36-2maemo1621:31
merlin1991wich is pr.13+cssusuffix21:31
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DocScrutinizer:nod:21:31
merlin1991so accordingly the new one will be pr131+cssusuffix21:31
DocScrutinizer:nod:21:31
freemangordon_+stable21:32
freemangordon_somewhere21:32
merlin1991do we just append stable at the end for the stable branch?21:32
DocScrutinizerand stable will be pr131 + S + cssu-suffix21:32
freemangordon_not sure deb system will swallow that21:32
merlin1991freemangordon_: apt has some command to check versions against each other21:32
* merlin1991 looks it up21:32
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freemangordon_anyway, i am leaving, please someone(merlin1991?) post the end result on TMO. bb21:34
merlin1991bb21:34
* DocScrutinizer tries some positions of fsckng USB kbd on top of fsckdup laptop kbd21:34
DocScrutinizerwe're calling it a day?21:35
merlin1991nah21:35
merlin1991we're rolling21:35
merlin1991just need MohammadAG back21:35
MohammadAGI am back21:35
DocScrutinizerroll roll roll your boat...21:35
MohammadAGthat's row21:35
merlin1991and anyone else to have input too so it's a community decision :D21:35
MohammadAG:p21:35
DocScrutinizeraah21:35
Lava_Crofti approve of this discussion21:36
DocScrutinizercool :-D21:36
merlin1991there it is dpkg --compare-versions21:37
DocScrutinizerwho's branching S, who's merging fmg's patches to T and building T17? Whan?21:37
* merlin1991 holds hand up for branching S21:39
DocScrutinizer:-D21:39
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: you're planning to do the T17 some day of this weekend?21:40
DocScrutinizerEOVERHEAT again?21:41
merlin1991well we can either use pr131Scssusuffix or pr131cssusuffix-stable21:41
merlin1991both work21:41
DocScrutinizerOT: anybody a clue how to sw-reset a kbd?21:41
DocScrutinizerI'm all for #121:42
nox-powercycle?21:42
DocScrutinizerMEH!21:42
nox-:P21:42
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merlin1991anyone else for the stable branch naming S in the middle or -stable suffix?21:42
DocScrutinizer20:42    148 Tage 17:30 an,  11 Benutzer,  Durchschnittslast: 1,13, 0,83, 0,6421:43
nox-heh21:43
DocScrutinizer>:-(21:43
nox-dont worry, long uptimes usually only mean security holes...21:43
nox-:)21:43
DocScrutinizerscrewit, my fan needs cleaning too21:43
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, yes21:44
DocScrutinizer:-D21:44
merlin1991MohammadAG: prSmaemox or prmaemox-stable?21:44
DocScrutinizerall thumbs up to you guys, you rock da house21:44
merlin1991hm echo "EOVERHEAT" > /dev/ignorewarnings ?21:45
merlin1991.D21:45
BluesLeedid i missed something?;-)21:45
DocScrutinizeryeah, you missed21:46
DocScrutinizer~logs21:46
infobotAll conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23maemo%2dssu/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily.21:46
merlin1991BluesLee: so far we've came to the decision to branch a stable branch, with mos of the current cssu in it21:46
merlin1991and push the new changes from gitorious to testing21:46
merlin1991and as soon as components in testing are considered stable import them to the stable branch21:46
merlin1991now we're at the name of the stable branch & the pr.13.1 issue after that we could start hacking21:47
DocScrutinizerseems MohammadAG is suffering from his notorious 15min lag21:48
merlin1991yep21:48
DocScrutinizer~botsnack21:49
infobotthanks, DocScrutinizer21:49
DocScrutinizeryup, highlight works21:49
merlin1991I'll grab something to eat21:49
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DocScrutinizerso I'm afk, in vicinity. HL me if sth pending21:49
merlin1991now we need that Mags Notebook gets alive, or he finds another pc :P21:53
* DocScrutinizer still glares at this laptop of him21:55
DocScrutinizer51herew now21:55
merlin1991fsckd qmake21:58
merlin1991it doesn't consider files that get created while compiling worth creating install routines for even if you explecitely state them beforehand21:59
DocScrutinizer51haha21:59
merlin1991one needs to use the system() call to generate them in the qmake stage so that rules for them can get generated, who was the genious desinging that I wonder?22:00
DocScrutinizer51is this an official best practice?22:01
merlin1991it's the only practice22:01
merlin1991any file wich should have a rule in the resulting make file has to be there when the qmake stage finishes22:02
DocScrutinizer51hah22:02
DocScrutinizer51wonders of qmake22:02
DocScrutinizer51never worked for me22:02
merlin1991on the n9 hackaton I've been debugging cmake for 2 hrs why it didn't create an out of source build untill it finally did22:03
merlin1991I still wonder WHY22:03
merlin1991so far every buildsystem fsckd me in some way22:03
DocScrutinizer51actually it only worked afer make clean, or rm <the_binary>22:03
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* DocScrutinizer51 idly ponders to give quassel a try22:06
DocScrutinizer51btw you know amazon's browser works exactly like that?22:07
merlin1991It's a nice system, and there is an UI for the n90022:07
merlin1991nope I didn't22:07
merlin1991also there's going to be an ui for the n922:07
merlin1991I'm going to a kde sprint in 2 weeks where I'll work on that with the main dev22:07
merlin1991if you really give it a try, set it up with postgres22:08
DocScrutinizer51:)22:08
merlin1991the sqlite backend get's too slow after about 2 months22:08
DocScrutinizer51errr wut?22:09
merlin1991the core of quassel stores the irc traffic into a sql db22:09
DocScrutinizer51a RDB for a bouncer?22:09
merlin1991or rather the msgs22:09
merlin1991no logs in the ususal sense :D22:09
DocScrutinizer51ummm22:10
merlin1991but infinit backlog :)22:10
DocScrutinizer51*cough*22:10
nealpostgres rocks.  Since most programs use a DB on a mobile phone, why don't use a real DB like postgres instead of sqlite?22:10
merlin1991why not a rdb22:10
DocScrutinizer51have that on my plaintext logs as well (well up to 2GB)22:10
DocScrutinizer51or sth22:11
merlin1991and it's only the core that has the db, so your client is actually a thin client22:11
DocScrutinizer51maybe more22:11
merlin1991gosh finally found the bug in my qmake script22:16
merlin1991for is not a keyword but a function name22:16
merlin1991for(x, y) != for (x, y)22:16
DocScrutinizerHAH22:17
DocScrutinizer~part22:18
merlin1991actually for (x, y) does nothing22:18
merlin1991but for(x, y) iterates over y assinging values to x22:18
DocScrutinizer~part #maemo-ssu22:18
infobotLeaving. (courtesy of docscrutinizer).22:18
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merlin1991MohammadAG: any life in your fan?22:24
* amiconn likes quassel22:25
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DocScrutinizereither of both dead, fan or moh22:27
DocScrutinizerI suppose it's the fan22:28
BluesLeemy n900 is also dead and my wife is not willing to give me her n900 swaping for a brand new e722:36
psycho_oreossell that E7 and use the money to buy another second hand N900? :)22:38
DocScrutinizerBluesLee: your wife got taste22:42
BluesLeepsycho_oreos: i will sell it and get an n9 first, thats my plan22:42
BluesLeeDocScrutinizer: concerning the n900 yes:-)22:43
psycho_oreosDocScrutinizer, hah lol, I agree and envy. these days iphone is all the craze22:43
psycho_oreosBluesLee, good job on convincing her that N900 is superior :)22:44
BluesLeeyes, i convinced 3 people so far22:44
BluesLeeis there a list of all features which should make it to the next cssu update?22:45
merlin1991I'll compile one22:50
* DocScrutinizer hands merlin1991 a huge icecream cone22:59
merlin1991DocScrutinizer:  you're getting off cheap23:00
merlin1991;)23:00
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merlin1991andre__: ping23:05
andre__merlin1991, pong23:05
merlin1991we've decided to branch of a stable branch of cssu, we heaven't talked about this but I think we'll need a version on the bugtracker to file bugs against stable or testing23:06
andre__merlin1991, file me a ticket in bugzilla against bugzilla and I'll do what you want :)23:07
merlin1991also who can currently confirm cssu bugs?23:07
andre__everybody who has canconfirm permissions, or automatically if three people have voted for a bug23:08
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merlin1991does MohammadAG have canconfirm permissions? because most of the bugs filed against cssu are still "new" even though people have confirmed them23:09
merlin1991s/new/unconfirmed/23:11
andre__merlin1991, new *means* confirmed, contrary to "unconfirmed".23:11
andre__ah :)23:11
andre__let me check23:11
merlin1991I love for example bug #1242823:13
povbot`Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12428 Corrupted video after camera app switches to background (while recording)23:13
merlin1991where the comments state that the bug is already fixed in the gitorious source, but the bug is still unconfirmed23:13
andre__darn. this open wifi of some random neighbor is damn slow :)23:15
andre__merlin1991, do you have canconfirm rights?23:15
merlin1991no23:15
andre__want some? :P23:16
andre__yes, mohammad has editbugs and canconfirm.23:16
andre__if you tell me your bugzilla login I can give you some23:17
merlin1991would be usefull, because it seems like I'll be maintaining the stable branch of cssu23:17
merlin1991christian_ratzenhofer@yahoo.de23:17
andre__merlin1991, here you go :) you'll see some new buttons, use them wisely :P23:19
andre__if you have any questions, just ask23:20
merlin1991I think I should go on a check cssu bugs spree23:20
andre__oh, you're welcome23:21
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