IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Saturday, 2011-09-17

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streifi89hi guys'n'girls00:10
streifi89i have bought a nokia n900 phone, flashed the vanilla and the latest PR binarys (factory reset), installed the cssu x16.8. all is clean and i have nothing else installed. now i have installed the tool "cssu features configuration". now apppears following error message: "reading the configuration settings gave a FATAL ERROR while loading. not all settings are available. exiting..." anyone know this problem?00:14
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tomreynhi, i received a previously-owned phone yesterday and just learnt that there is an update available for the CSSU version installed on it. I did as explained at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation but the update isn't detected to be available. What may be wrong?15:14
barzamrobincglad: you might need to manually refresh in HAM15:15
barzamtomreyn: ^15:15
tomreynbarzam: i did this, no change15:17
tomreyni just ran apt-get update on terminal, and it reports it's missing the GPG key of the repository.maemo.org and downloads.maemo.nokia.com repositories. how would i get those installed properly?15:19
tomreynand does this seem to be related?15:19
psycho_oreosafaik CSSU has its repos in a different area of repository.maemo.org15:20
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tomreynimporting the GPG key for the repository.maemo.org repository the debian way on x terminal helped: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=587817&postcount=615:39
tomreyncan't seem to find the missing gpg key for downloads.maemo.nokia.com, though. where should i search for that?15:40
tomreynwell i guess that's the wrong channel for this question, sorry15:40
psycho_oreosI don't think they would have their keys made publicly available.. though I'm sure their signature is found on N900 itself inside /etc/apt/*.gpg15:48
psycho_oreoswell that and firmwares for N900, but there has been a fair few tmo threads about issues with downloads.maemo.nokia.com and were told to ignore them as they were warnings not errors15:48
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tomreynit was a freemantle1.2 source, which i just disabled.15:57
tomreyni think i'm really goign the wrong way about all this, i should start from scratch. how do i reflash the entire phone (all data on all partitions should be deleted, no backup needed) so that any prior customisations are gone and i start which something 'official'?15:59
tomreynfo i use http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Development_Environment/Maemo_Flasher-3.5 for this?16:00
psycho_oreosyes but you'll also need the firmware16:08
psycho_oreosand if you want to completely reflash, you'll need to flash using both the fiasco image and eMMC image16:08
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tomreynpsycho_oreos: then that's what i'm going to do. :) Is there a way to download the images without sending my IMEI over a plain text http connection?16:19
psycho_oreostomreyn, not really.. there are ways around it like for instance using someone else's IMEI number or downloading from other sources (which may/may not be using the same set of tools applicable to your OS for flashing your device)16:21
tomreynwhat other sources are you aware of?16:21
psycho_oreosI think jacekowski's site has latest nokia fiasco image, I don't know about emmc image nor would I know that if his mirrors have correcct md5sums16:22
psycho_oreoscpkb.org for instance has a list of links but the flashing tools appear to only be for windows16:23
psycho_oreosI think nokiablue or bluenokia has windows flasher images as well16:23
psycho_oreosbtw its not too particularly hard to search for someone else's IMEI number with google :) using the correct search phrases would yield at least one or two usable IMEI numbers16:24
tomreyni see what you mean16:31
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Estel_tomreyn,  just keep in mind, that using someone's other IMEI, You may get different revision version16:47
Estel_may be or may be not a problem16:47
tomreynEstel_: sure, thanks for16:48
tomreyn...the hint16:48
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* DocScrutinizer always wonders what problems people got with disclosing their IMEI - I mean it's not like it's an online banking PIN/TAN. The IMEI is printed on the *outside* of the box, and honestly nobody can really abuse your IMEI, and making up random IMEIs is easy enough (could be *your* IMEI I get from my random-IMEI generator next time I start it, so what you're going to do about THAT now? ;-D )18:33
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DocScrutinizerthe *only* rogue thing about IMEI I could figure is reporting the device as stolen, and you can (or can not) do this with any random IMEI you pull outa your arse, so what's the exact concerns to send an actual IMEI over an uncrypted channel to a Nokia site? :-o18:36
DocScrutinizerif I were to evesdrop your internet traffic to snoop up your IMEI to play pranks on you, then I'd not only be a moron but also an incompetent moron as I could snoop GSM login data traffic to get your IMEI as well, and with a better chance to get the IMEI in a reasonable timespan than when hoping for it to show up on internet traffic18:39
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barzamgood points, DocScrutinizer.19:13
DocScrutinizerI can see exactly one situation where you'd be concerned to disclose your IMEI: when you think this IMEI might already be reported as stolen. :-o19:16
DocScrutinizerI'd not buy devices where I would need to be concerned about that19:17
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