IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2011-09-07

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MohammadAG	freemangordon, was this the bug fixed https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6584 ?	00:05
povbot	Bug 6584: GPS geotagged pictures truncate precision of GPS reading (0 decimal places)	00:05
freemangordon	Think so.	00:05
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MohammadAG	X-Fade, ping, I accidentally upload the metapackage to -devel, I reupped it to the CSSU repo, could you remove it from devel? ty	00:17
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freemangordon	MohammadAG : consider upping mp-fremantle-community-pr version, it tries to use that from devel repo now.	00:40
freemangordon	by the time X-Fade reacts CSSU thread on tmo will be full of complains	00:41
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freemangordon	shit, calculator is not updated	00:47
arcean	freemangordon: http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/o/osso-calculator/	00:50
arcean	but you scared me to death :D	00:51
freemangordon	great, osso-calculator-ui version on my second device is 1.8.01-1+m5	00:52
freemangordon	on my primary I have it installed from before update	00:52
freemangordon	only osso-calculator metapackage is updated, ui - not	00:53
freemangordon	MohammadAG ^	00:53
arcean	freemangordon: yes, that's a problem	00:54
arcean	i've run apt-get upgrade	00:54
freemangordon	and? what is your calculator look like?	00:55
arcean	osso-calculator-ui_2.0-1+0cssu1	00:56
freemangordon	great	00:56
arcean	Pali's one	00:56
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freemangordon	maybe because I had to do apt-get install mp-fremantle...	00:57
freemangordon	lets try upgrade	00:57
arcean	osso-calculator depends on osso-calculator-ui	00:57
freemangordon	hmm, little miracles of apt-get	00:58
arcean	but it would be great if metapackage also depends on osso-calculator-ui	00:58
freemangordon	seems like false alarm	00:58
freemangordon	yep	00:58
freemangordon	apt-get upgrade did the job	00:59
arcean	:)	00:59
freemangordon	lets check modest :)	01:00
freemangordon	missing english translation :D	01:01
arcean	hehe	01:01
arcean	good to know it works ;)	01:02
freemangordon	offline support option i mean	01:02
freemangordon	yep, it is my primary device, 2 pop3 a nd one imap account	01:02
freemangordon	works	01:02
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arcean	nice	01:04
arcean	it's a great feature	01:05
freemangordon	hehe, i did'n check offline support	01:06
freemangordon	:D	01:06
freemangordon	geotagging precision seems ok	01:06
arcean	nor I	01:07
arcean	i'm completing whitelist for h-d	01:07
arcean	looks like it's working	01:08
arcean	so when forcerotation == 0, the blacklist is disabled	01:08
freemangordon	seems because of missing modest localisation there should be new update soon	01:08
arcean	whitelist is always active and overdrives blacklist	01:09
freemangordon	great	01:09
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arcean	freemangordon: I have installed CSSU after reflash	03:12
arcean	sadly, osso-camera-ui is missing :(	03:12
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Creteil	well, I have just updated the cssu, all things goes well except I don't want the desktop auto-rotation, where I can disable this functionality ?	03:14
arcean	Creteil: there's orientation lock in a status bar	03:15
arcean	menu	03:15
Creteil	arcean, ok let me see ...	03:15
Creteil	great !!!	03:16
Creteil	:-)	03:16
Creteil	good work	03:16
arcean	;)	03:18
Creteil	argh	03:23
Creteil	it's not the behavior I wanted :-(	03:23
Creteil	look like it look not only desktops but also apps :-(	03:23
Creteil	look like it lock not only desktops but also apps :-(	03:23
arcean	yes, it's system-wide	03:23
Creteil	is there a way to lock in landscape mode only the desktop and leave apps in autorotate mode ?	03:24
arcean	IIRC, no	03:24
arcean	lemme check	03:24
Creteil	:-(	03:24
Creteil	except the rotation, do you have fixed bugs ?	03:26
Creteil	if not then I can revert to the other package ...	03:26
arcean	to what bugs are you referring?	03:27
Creteil	no bug in particular, but since this new hildon-package come from cssu and we don't have a changelog, I ask if this new package add only desktop rotation and not other bugs fix ...	03:28
Creteil	what package I need to install to regain the old behavior ?	03:30
arcean	Creteil: changelog for h-d: http://pastebin.com/paQ0fPWG	03:31
Creteil	what I need to put in the blacklist to leave the desktop in landscape ?	03:33
arcean	Creteil: only orientation lock	03:33
arcean	or fill a bug	03:34
Creteil	ok, so this is not the behavior I'm looking for, what package I need to install to regain the old behavior ?	03:34
arcean	so i will be able to track it	03:34
Creteil	Is there a way I can revert the previous package ?	03:36
arcean	apt-get install <pkg-name>=<version>	03:37
arcean	so: apt-get install hildon-desktop=2.2.142-13	03:37
Creteil	where did you find the previous version number ?	03:38
Creteil	E: Version '2.2.142-13' for 'hildon-desktop' was not found	03:39
Creteil	tsss	03:39
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Creteil	:-)	03:39
arcean	ehh, sorry :)	03:39
arcean	it's 3am here	03:39
arcean	apt-get install hildon-desktop=1:2.2.142-13	03:40
arcean	epoch number was missing	03:40
Creteil	damn that seem to remove other packages	03:44
Creteil	I'm gona recompile it by myselft and push up the version number to overlap the actual one ...	03:44
arcean	yup, the best idea ;)	03:45
Creteil	from where I can fetch 1:2.2.142-13 source code ?	03:47
arcean	sec	03:47
arcean	http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/source/h/hildon-desktop/hildon-desktop_2.2.142-13.tar.gz	03:48
Creteil	there is no git repository for hildon-desktop devel ?	03:50
arcean	there is, but you will have to manually revert commits	03:50
arcean	https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop	03:51
arcean	Creteil: I'll add a way to disable desktop rotation via gconf	03:57
arcean	maybe it'll be a part of the next update	03:57
Creteil	arcean, better, push the fix somewhere then I can compile it against actual version ...	04:03
arcean	ok	04:09
arcean	give me 10-15 minutes	04:09
Creteil	on my side I have installed the old one recompiled with the versionning of the last one, working perfect ...	04:10
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arcean	ok, i have something	04:17
Creteil	:-)	04:17
arcean	should I upload somewhere binary or do you want to build it by yourself?	04:18
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Creteil	I prefer to build it myself	04:18
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arcean	ok, give me 5 minutes, i'm going to push changes to repo	04:19
Creteil	ok	04:19
manifesto42	good evening	04:19
manifesto42	where can i see a changelog on the new cssu update?	04:20
arcean	good morning ;)	04:20
manifesto42	and btw, thanks for the great effort :-)	04:20
manifesto42	mornin' fellow dif timezone chatter :-)	04:21
manifesto42	changelpg anywhere to be read and appreciated?	04:22
arcean	manifesto42: not yet	04:22
arcean	someone has to write it :P	04:22
Creteil	arcean, time to go bed for me :-(	04:23
Creteil	I'm tired	04:23
manifesto42	oh assumed it was something the ninja updaters were writing as they fixed stuff, hehe	04:24
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arcean	manifesto42: all in all, i think it's the biggest update	04:27
manifesto42	ive been reading it is and i already updated but would be nice to know what was changed	04:27
arcean	sorry, i'm too tired to write a changelog :(	04:28
manifesto42	ah no worries. thats the last request i would make. eventually it will pop up. :-)	04:29
manifesto42	forgive any weird msgs	04:33
manifesto42	trying out xchat on my n900	04:34
arcean	heh ;)	04:34
arcean	CreteilAW: https://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arceans-hildon-desktop-dl	04:35
manifesto42	text color power	04:35
manifesto42	ha i missed my golden irc days	04:35
manifesto42	who said irc is dead, heh	04:35
arcean	~bot snack	04:36
arcean	~snack	04:36
arcean	:(	04:36
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arcean	it's time to go bed	04:37
arcean	bbl	04:37
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manifesto42	take care	04:38
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op	hi	08:59
op	MAG bro ,should i update to ssu 16 ?	09:00
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Braxen	...the changelog doesn't show -16? What's new?	09:34
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DocScrutinizer	with a bit of luck you'll find details in chanlog	10:23
DocScrutinizer	~lart MohammadAG for not updating changelog	10:23
DocScrutinizer	meh, I hate when infobot isn't around	10:24
freemangordon_	I am sure he will do it ASAP	10:24
freemangordon_	btw, is your bug fixed?	10:24
freemangordon_	HAM one	10:24
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DocScrutinizer	mine? nfc, I refused to update since dunno xmas	10:25
freemangordon_	why?	10:25
DocScrutinizer	never felt like force-replacing my stock apps	10:25
DocScrutinizer	by new crippled segfaulting versions	10:26
freemangordon_	You should try this one, really. Cudos do the guy who made modest patches, it is fast as a lightning now.	10:27
* DocScrutinizer gives a flying F about modest, really		10:27
freemangordon_	it is up to you man	10:27
DocScrutinizer	sure, sorry	10:27
freemangordon_	no problem, why should I feel offended	10:28
freemangordon_	it is your n900	10:28
DocScrutinizer	just my amount of mail is simply not manageable on a phone	10:28
freemangordon_	sure	10:28
DocScrutinizer	and missing threading in modest makes it useless anyway	10:28
DocScrutinizer	I'm one of the weird persons that keep their sent mail in the inbox, to have inbound and answers in one thread	10:29
DocScrutinizer	modest failing epically on that, same on attachments realy	10:30
freemangordon_	:-D	10:30
freemangordon_	have to drive	10:31
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alien__	hi, is there a changelog of the latest Community SSU update, that I saw this morning on my N900?	11:54
DocScrutinizer	http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/	11:55
Creteil	The changelog is not already updated, as you can see by yourself here : http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog	11:55
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alien__	thanks Creteil DocScrutinizer	12:11
alien__	thanks for everyone for the great work	12:17
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RST38h	Mohammad: Is it ok that the maemo-pr-* package gets reported as "held back"?	12:51
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Creteil	hi arcean	13:41
arcean	Creteil: hi	13:43
arcean	have you tried to build patched h-d?	13:43
Creteil	Well, I have leave a message on TMO about this night patch ...	13:43
arcean	k	13:44
Creteil	http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1083391&postcount=611	13:44
Creteil	The new was properly handled in the code, desktop leave properly locked to landscape when the key was true, BTW, the application 'phone' stick always in landscape with this option ...	13:46
Creteil	The new GCONF KEY was properly handled in the code, desktop leave properly locked to landscape when the key was true, BTW, the application 'phone' stick always in landscape with this option ...	13:46
arcean	will try to reproduce, sec	13:46
Creteil	Always reproduceable on my side :-)	13:47
arcean	Creteil: you mean "Phone" app or a answer call dialog?	13:48
arcean	s/a/an	13:48
Creteil	Phone app	13:49
arcean	you just start Phone app and it turn to landscape?	13:49
Creteil	yes	13:49
arcean	for me, everything's correct :P	13:50
Creteil	You must be able to reproduce on your side ...	13:50
Creteil	:-(	13:50
Creteil	ouch	13:50
arcean	please check settings of the Phone app	13:50
arcean	regarding window's orientation	13:50
Creteil	already done that	13:51
arcean	and what value is set?	13:51
Creteil	I have fixed it to portrait mode	13:51
arcean	could you try any other app, like e.g. Settings?	13:52
Creteil	wait one I need to put back the package with this patch because since I was annoyed by this behavior I have put back the precedent version with pushing the version number to 15 like this one ...	13:53
arcean	Did you restart after you installed modified h-d?	13:55
Creteil	just killall hildon-desktop	13:56
arcean	that's enough to make hildon-desktop crazy regarding screen rotations ;D	13:57
Creteil	ok	13:57
arcean	it would be better to restart Maemo after h-d installation	13:57
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Creteil	I have finished to compile/scp to the device/dpkg -i the_package, now I'm gona reboot the device, stay tunned ...	13:57
Creteil	Damn, in parallel I'm flashing 60 Nokia E7 (RM-626) to anna with Phoenix, too much long time to flash one device properly :-( ...	14:00
arcean	wow	14:01
arcean	flashing n900 is just a couple of seconds :D	14:01
psycho_oreos	and very verbose ;)	14:02
Creteil	arcean, nothing to see on the E7 side, at least with 'anna' version of symbian^3, 'belle' look promising ...	14:02
Creteil	but Nokia s*x actually, they put out 3 new phones with 'belle' and leave in stand-by the high end terminals (N8, E7) to the 'anna' version ...	14:04
Creteil	oops sorry I omitted you are here to see if your patch work properly ...	14:04
Creteil	ok, the GCONF KEY is on true (so locking the desktop always in landscape mode), let me see phone app right now (I like suspens) ;-)	14:05
Creteil	Cool, it work !!!	14:06
arcean	:)	14:06
Creteil	So, the problem was only 1 reboot !!!	14:06
arcean	yep	14:06
Creteil	tsss	14:07
Creteil	I'm gona put this f******g smartphone to the trash right now !!! ;-)	14:07
arcean	this is the weirdness of the h-d	14:07
freemangordon_	arcean : seems lots of users are caught in reboot loop because of portrait wallpaper, anything could be done?	14:08
RST38h	Creteil: Can I have it instead?	14:08
Creteil	RST38h, sorry too late :-)	14:08
Creteil	mouahahahhaha	14:08
arcean	freemangordon_: the best thing is it's working for me	14:08
arcean	freemangordon_: but i'm doing another reflash and will try with clean install	14:09
Creteil	Hi freemangordon_ !!!	14:09
freemangordon_	hi	14:09
Creteil	freemangordon_, take care to users reports ...	14:09
freemangordon_	you mean which?	14:10
Creteil	When I read troubles of users in the kernel-power-v48 I'm sometime pissing on my shoes :-)	14:10
Creteil	Problems are many noobs try many things without understanding exactly if it's good or not for the usage they have of their device ...	14:11
RST38h	Thank you for pointing it out to us all, Captain	14:11
infobot	RST38h: no worries	14:11
arcean	lol	14:12
Creteil	Damn, on my side what I see, is I can do anything with my N900, sometime I'm driving, someone a big Boss call me, expose me his problem, during that I park the car, open the N900, connect to the lan-TO-lan corporate openvpn, and finally ask the big Boss to send me a remote control	14:15
RST38h	btw how do I find out what is holding back a package	14:15
Creteil	RST38h, what do you mean exactly ?	14:16
RST38h	When apt-get says "packages kept back: I would like to know which dependency is keeping them back	14:18
scoobertron	RST38h: that might be because new packages need to be installed to update everything. apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade everything and install new packages where needed. I think.	14:19
scoobertron	I think that if a package depends on a version of another package which is not available, it will tell you which one is causing the problem	14:21
Creteil	So, just install the other, and after that the update must continue ...	14:21
RST38h	dist-upgrade kills N900 dead by removing all the currently installe dpackages	14:23
RST38h	So, back to my original question: how do I find which package keeps my package back?	14:24
Creteil	RST38h, I didn't use dist-upgrade especialy if extra-devel activated :-)	14:24
* RST38h sighs		14:24
Creteil	RST38h, what does output 'apt-get upgrade' exactly ?	14:24
RST38h	never mind	14:25
Creteil	:-)	14:25
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Creteil	arcean, have a look at : http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1083391&postcount=611	14:49
Creteil	;-)	14:49
arcean	thanks, test it carefully ;)	14:50
arcean	it would be great to include it in the next update	14:50
Creteil	Sure !!!	14:57
ThreeM	is there any changelog for cssu	15:03
ThreeM	?	15:03
arcean	not yet	15:04
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scoobertron	arcean: sorry if this has been answered, but is it possible to lock the desktop to portrait mode in the latest cssu update?	15:11
Creteil	arcean, look easy, same as my request, but in the other side :-)	15:11
arcean	scoobertron: there's no such functionality	15:12
arcean	Creteil: but it would require support for portrait mode from all apps	15:12
scoobertron	no problem, I think I might have been confused by some of the forum chatter. Thanks for all your work.	15:12
arcean	ahh, desktop portrait mode :facepalm:	15:12
Creteil	arcean, ah ok ...	15:12
Creteil	yes	15:13
arcean	i thought we are talking about system-wide forced portrait mode	15:13
arcean	should be doable	15:13
arcean	but i'm not sure how the apps will behave	15:13
Creteil	but you need to change the boolean key for a numerical one, something like that : 0 -> auto desktop, 1 -> lock landscape & 2 -> lock portrait ...	15:14
arcean	3 -> inverted landscape 4 -> inverted portrait 5 -> unknown? :D	15:15
scoobertron	5 perminantly runs the rotation transition animation - it could be spinny mode	15:15
arcean	yeah :D	15:15
Creteil	lol	15:15
Creteil	:-)	15:15
arcean	instead of the reboot loop	15:16
barzam	but the new cssu features the portrait mode that was previously avaliable in the forum right?	15:16
Creteil	6 -> leave the vibrator ON :-)	15:16
Creteil	what about that ? :-)	15:16
Creteil	mouahahahhaa	15:16
scoobertron	arcean: this is a random question, but would it even be possible to copy wp7s homescreen setup, where rather than discrete desktops, you scroll up and down one extended desktop?	15:17
arcean	you mean one big desktop instead of 4?	15:18
scoobertron	yep.	15:20
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arcean	should be possible	15:21
* arcean is trying force portrait desktop thing...		15:24
scoobertron	I don't know why but I like the idea of just having a big stack of widgets on the desktop that I scroll up and down.	15:25
arcean	nope, hildon-desktop is not prepared to be forced into portrait mode	15:41
MohammadAG	it is, HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST on everything	15:43
arcean	MohammadAG: i mean, desktop itself	15:43
MohammadAG	good point	15:44
arcean	MohammadAG: crashes during startup	15:44
MohammadAG	X-Fade, removed the packages?	15:44
MohammadAG	ah	15:44
MohammadAG	landscape then go to portrait after init	15:44
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MohammadAG	DocScrutinizer, freemangordon_ arcean debian/changelog had a changelog	15:47
MohammadAG	~lart DocScrutinizer for not checking that	15:47
* infobot stamps DocScrutinizer on the forehead with the official Troll marker for not checking that		15:47
freemangordon_	:-D :-D :-D	15:47
Creteil	~seen pali	15:48
infobot	pali <~quassel@ip-88-212-34-237.antik.sk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 17d 20h 5m 42s ago, saying: 'I'm going offline.'.	15:48
MohammadAG	RST38h, apt-get install <package being held back>	15:50
MohammadAG	so, I hear Kasvopus was f'd?	15:50
freemangordon_	yep	15:50
MohammadAG	any idea why?	15:51
MohammadAG	it's closed source afaik btw	15:51
freemangordon_	it set gl as graphics system at startup	15:51
MohammadAG	it's qml, which is plaintext, but still closed	15:51
freemangordon_	no, gpl2	15:51
MohammadAG	so?	15:51
MohammadAG	OpenGL is f'd?	15:51
freemangordon_	seems like	15:51
MohammadAG	:/	15:51
freemangordon_	anyway there are some patches upstream for that	15:52
freemangordon_	i think	15:52
MohammadAG	well, 4.7.0 again?	15:52
MohammadAG	<3 QML	15:52
freemangordon_	why that	15:52
MohammadAG	lots of QML apps	15:53
freemangordon_	let me try to find what the problem is, will decide after that	15:54
freemangordon_	and I don't think all qml apps are screwed, anly those that use gl painting	15:57
RST38h	Mohammad: Thanks, Mohammad. It worked!	15:57
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RST38h	Is there a way to DISABLE desktop rotation?	16:02
RST38h	(and why is it enabled by default???)	16:02
MohammadAG	RST38h, no to the first one, second question is rhetorical	16:03
arcean	RST38h: https://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arceans-hildon-desktop-dl	16:03
RST38h	Mohammad: ?????	16:03
ThreeM	is hildon portrait mode now part of cssu?	16:03
RST38h	Mohammad: You do know that it is unusable in the portrait mode???	16:03
freemangordon	why is that	16:03
MohammadAG	no, I don't :p	16:04
freemangordon	RST38h - why it is unusable in portrait mode?	16:04
RST38h	Mohammad: Well, the widget arrangement that people normally have on their desktops is adjusted to the landscape mode. Whendesktop goes portrait, all widgets mess up	16:04
RST38h	It becomes an instant clusterfuck	16:05
freemangordon	then move them wherever you like, damn.	16:05
MohammadAG	RST38h, there's no algorithm to auto sort them	16:05
MohammadAG	sort them, they're be saved in a separate gconf	16:05
MohammadAG	there's no algorithm implemented*	16:06
MohammadAG	Jaffa made the concept	16:06
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scoobertron	RST38h: so it remembers your preferred layout for portrait and landscape modes	16:07
ThreeM	can i have separate widgets in portrait mode and in landscape mode? that would be awesome :)	16:07
* amiconn would also prefer his desktop to stay in landscape mode		16:07
amiconn	I see no point in portrait mode on N900 with merely two exceptions: The telephony app, and viewing portrait images in the image viewer	16:09
scoobertron	amiconn: I use it for large desktop feed-style widgets. a fullscreen twitter feed works better in portrait mode.	16:10
scoobertron	which is not to say that everyone wants that, but it does have some advantages for some people.	16:10
amiconn	Yeah, hence it should be configurable, and imo the default should be to not rotate	16:13
amiconn	Other features which are much less intrusive (e.g. the alternative rotation animation) do have a sane default	16:15
scoobertron	I think there was some talk earlier about that being difficult to implement (I was asking about locking it to portrait). So the only way to have desktop rotation at all is to have it enabled. You might be able to disable it by installing the default hildon desktop package manually - there was some discussion of this in the hildon-desktop portrait thread	16:16
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cityLights	MohammadAG: got a paypal account?	16:24
cityLights	I want to controb 10$	16:24
cityLights	s/controb/contrib/	16:24
infobot	cityLights meant: I want to contrib 10$	16:24
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freemangordon	MohammadAG - metapackage seems brocen it misses osso-calculator-ui as a dependency	16:27
freemangordon	*broken	16:27
freemangordon	so one need to apt-get upgrade to have cssu calculator	16:27
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arcean_	amiconn: https://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arceans-hildon-desktop-dl	16:35
RST38h	Ah so there are TWO layouts one for each mode???	16:37
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scoobertron	RST38h: yep	16:39
RST38h	cooooool	16:40
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freemangordon	MohammadAG : ping	17:25
cityLights	yes, mee too	17:33
freemangordon	arcean__ : ping	17:35
freemangordon	guys , need some developer's help	17:41
Braxen	8 hours later and no changelog? Are everyone sleeping or what? :v	17:50
andre__	freemangordon, so ask your question...	17:52
peetah	Braxen: what about you dig into gitorious and write something ?	17:54
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arcean	freemangordon: pong	17:55
freemangordon	have about 5 minutes? look here http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.7/src/opengl/qwindowsurface_gl.cpp line 420. How setPartialUpdateSupport(); will be called few lines bellow if ctx->d_func()->eglContext->configAttrib(EGL_SWAP_BEHAVIOR); retrurns BAD_ATTRIBUTE, or whatever error code it could return?	17:55
freemangordon	Because it seems like Kasvopus bug, just need to be sure	17:56
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freemangordon	And I am too stupid today :D	17:56
Creteil	Braxen, here is some explanations : the cssu update come something like at midnight (European time), I have personally upgraded at approx 3am, and here in the channel all devels are up listening at rants from people like me, you, etc ...	17:57
Creteil	So, even if devels sleep during today, I think they can :-)	17:57
freemangordon	arcean__: and haveNOKSwapRegion == false for sure	17:58
* Creteil just learned how to flash multiples E7 in one shot under Phoenix (it's less boring at all ...) ;-)		17:59
arcean	freemangordon: (ctx->d_func()->eglContext->configAttrib(EGL_SURFACE_TYPE)&EGL_SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED_BIT) is also false?	18:02
freemangordon	have no idea, most probably yes, because the end result is "QEgl::eglSwapBuffersRegion2NOK() called but EGL_NOK_swap_region2 extension not present" and that seems to be spit only when setPartialUpdateSupport(true); has been called	18:03
arcean	Braxen: changelog (not full): https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog	18:03
alien__	thanks for the changelog	18:04
alien__	regarding desktop rotation, it seems the icons are misplaced when positioned vertically	18:05
freemangordon	alien__ - move them to a place you like, they will stay there	18:06
alien__	great, thanks!	18:06
RST38h	BTWis it possible to have different sets of icons for landscape vs portrait?	18:06
freemangordon	the same as in landscape	18:06
Creteil	alien_ : the 1st time you need to put them in the right place for the 2 orientations (in this case the vertical orientation) ...	18:06
RST38h	And different settings for each applet?	18:06
freemangordon	AFAIK no	18:06
arcean	settings are the same	18:07
alien__	freemangordon: the problem is that if the screen is full of widgets in horizontal orientation, those might not fit in vertical mode	18:07
arcean	only different positions	18:07
alien__	for example weather, mail, calendar and media player	18:08
freemangordon	rearrange them to fit	18:08
alien__	they can't fit	18:08
alien__	but I got them to sort of fit, with minimum overlapping	18:09
alien__	also, I would appreciate an "align to grid" feature :)	18:13
alien__	but this rocks, thanks!	18:13
arcean	alien__: Fixes: NB#142941 - Snap to grid for Home applets/shortcuts	18:14
arcean	looks like it's implemented already	18:14
alien__	how?	18:14
arcean	no idea:D	18:15
Creteil	Have a look at transition.ini	18:15
RST38h	Use CSSU Configurator, set up a bigger gird step	18:15
arcean	in transitions.ini is something about snap to grid	18:15
alien__	thanks	18:16
alien__	so there's no UI yet	18:16
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BCMM	"Landscape dialogs rotate properly in portrait mode." - i need to trust people less... i assumed there was something wrong in my application when the dialogs behaved weirdly on rotation	18:17
BCMM	'File manager "Save as"' - was that a bug were it didn't add file extensions?	18:18
BCMM	^where	18:18
freemangordon	no, it was bug causing kernel krash on KP48, and reboot on other kernels with RD mode enabled	18:20
freemangordon	*crash	18:20
freemangordon	And maybe there is something wrong in your application anyway, as "landscape..." fix is only for thumbnails int tasknav	18:21
freemangordon	*in	18:21
alien__	RST38h: you mean cssufeatures?	18:22
freemangordon	ping arcean__ and MohammadAG	18:24
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arcean	freemangordon: ^	18:31
freemangordon	this is the kasvopous bug, changing both setPartialUpdateSupport calls with false fixex rendering. Do you have any clue what the correct check should be?	18:32
freemangordon	I change it to bool swapBehaviourPreserved = (ctx->d_func()->eglContext->configAttrib(EGL_SWAP_BEHAVIOR) == EGL_TRUE);	18:32
freemangordon	but anyone with any opengl knowledge should confirm it	18:33
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arcean	freemangordon: I have no idea, but as long as it calls setPartialUpdateSupport(false) should be ok	18:39
freemangordon	:D yep, creating MR	18:39
freemangordon	looks similar https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com//browse/QTBUG-18755	18:41
freemangordon	MohammadAG - new MR here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/merge_requests/5	18:55
freemangordon	and please update Qt debian/changelog on gitorious	18:55
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arcean	it's time to debug hildon-home :D	18:56
freemangordon	wish you luck	18:57
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freemangordon	arcean - looked at you MR for hd, didn't try it, but I have feeling it will not cooperate with task navigator (whtelist part). Did you leave that for me?	19:19
arcean	freemangordon: works fine	19:20
arcean	IIRC because of hd_comp_mgr_client_supports_portrait(..)	19:20
freemangordon	open Calendar application, press the menu and select settings. Now go to task navigator.	19:21
freemangordon	Does it look OK?	19:21
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freemangordon	everithing landscaped?	19:21
arcean	sec, i have to restore working h-home :P	19:21
freemangordon	everything*	19:21
freemangordon	no hurry	19:21
freemangordon	I was just wondering. Anyway I will try it later, sorry to interrupt your debugging	19:22
arcean	do you remember calendar's window name for blacklist line in transitions.ini?	19:25
arcean	ah, just 'calendar' :D	19:26
BCMM	anyone else unable to install -2maemo16?	19:28
arcean	freemangordon: so settings dialog is messed up	19:28
BCMM	i get "Application packages missing: QtQuick Compatibility Plugin (>= 0.1.0+0cssu1)"	19:28
BCMM	i have tried installing qtquickcompat with apt-get, per the FAQ, but "qtquickcompat is already the newest version."	19:29
BCMM	the installed version is 0.1.0	19:30
arcean	BCMM: apt-get update?	19:34
freemangordon	arcean: it is Calendar, capital C	19:39
arcean	freemangordon: settings window is messed up	19:40
arcean	in task switcher	19:40
freemangordon	so?	19:40
freemangordon	fix it :D	19:40
arcean	:D	19:40
freemangordon	what do you mean messed up?	19:40
freemangordon	is it rotated?	19:41
arcean	freemangordon: looks completly different than it should	19:41
freemangordon	with a press button in a middle of nowhere?	19:42
arcean	yes, rotated, squasched	19:42
freemangordon	push*	19:42
arcean	the thing is, that Settings dialog rotate window to landscape	19:42
arcean	and in task switcher app window is in portrait	19:42
freemangordon	did you blacklist Calendar?	19:43
freemangordon	with capital C	19:43
arcean	no	19:43
freemangordon	so, what do you expect	19:43
arcean	forcerotation is also turned off	19:43
freemangordon	do you have forcerotation on?	19:43
freemangordon	ahaa	19:43
freemangordon	maybe you should extend is_blacklisted(..) with a check for forcerotation disabled then	19:45
freemangordon	or just leave it to me, i know how this bitch works	19:45
arcean	i'm wondering if we are able to set HILDON_PORTRAIT_SUPPORT on app window	19:46
freemangordon	but I won't have today, maybe will have tomorrow	19:46
BCMM	arcean: have done; had errors to do with mozilla's broken repos, but nothing that should effect CSSU	19:46
arcean	that would be a proper way	19:47
freemangordon	don't think so, it could be overwritten by application itself, phone-ui as example	19:48
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freemangordon	see, leave tasknav to me, i have another fix in mind, so will combine them	19:48
arcean	ok	19:48
BCMM	changelog says "QtQuickCompat nulled, included in Qt 4.7.4" - what does "nulled" mean? I would have assumed that that meant that the package would no longer be required. is qtquickcompat-0.1.0+0cssu1 supposed to be a dummy package or what?	19:49
arcean	BCMM: yes, it's dummy package	19:50
DocScrutinizer	RST38h: I agree and aleays did, with your idea of disabling rotation	19:51
RST38h	Well, looks like the portrait mode is not thatbad after all, but I still think it has to have a disable option in transitions.ini	19:53
DocScrutinizer	it's the most annoying 'improvement' of CSSU, and it's on by default, despite I thought we got another policy for CSSU	19:53
freemangordon	Actially it is very useful, makes lots of tasks easyer especialy while driving.	19:54
freemangordon	damn, my English gets worse and worse every day.	19:55
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DocScrutinizer	I'm not driving, and if I were I mustn't touch my phone. And I only noticed the inadvertent rotation comes in my way all the time and almost caused me to throw the N900 against the wall	19:59
scoobertron	If desktop rotation can be made optional, it would be nice to have the option to lock the desktop to portrait as well.	20:00
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DocScrutinizer	NB it's NOT the rotation that annoys hell out of me, it's AUTOrotation	20:04
DocScrutinizer	get an enabler button for rotation (e.g. camera focus-switch) and lock rotation in the current position as long as that button isn't pressed, and I'm a happy camper (I hope)	20:06
BCMM	ah, the problem is my apt-preferences. sorry.	20:06
DocScrutinizer	if your concept doesn't allow this, then you did a mayor OOPSIE when you did the design	20:07
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freemangordon_	Did I understand correctly that you are not using latest CSSU	20:24
dos1	hi	20:25
dos1	who is in charge of camera-ui from CSSU?	20:25
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DocScrutinizer	freemangordon_: yes	20:33
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DocScrutinizer	dos1: hah, camera-ui, another point. Never should've made its way into CSSU, as it's a simple "stupid" app that's not really entangled with the system. No need to force it into an alternative system config, it could live happily as a normal app like the other 2000, and all it might need was a config option to select which camera-ui starts up when you open the lens door	20:35
dos1	DocScrutinizer: yup, i know your opinion :)	20:36
dos1	and now i understand it even better	20:36
dos1	as i got bitten by bug in it :P	20:36
DocScrutinizer	:-)	20:36
DocScrutinizer	blocker bug?	20:39
DocScrutinizer	I.E. does it render the camera useless for you?	20:40
DocScrutinizer	dos1: I recently learnt it's easy to roll back to stock camera anyway \o/	20:41
DocScrutinizer	~lart DocScrutinizer for not getting a bookmark on how to roll back to stock cam	20:42
* infobot hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at DocScrutinizer for not getting a bookmark on how to roll back to stock cam		20:42
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dos1	DocScrutinizer: well, not really useless, but it's overwriting photos taken with other apps	20:50
dos1	and i'm pretty sure it didn't before last update	20:50
DocScrutinizer	OUCH	20:50
DocScrutinizer	that'S even worse that an app completely failing. It's touching the holy grail of embedded, it destroys user DATA	20:51
DocScrutinizer	than* an app	20:51
dos1	good that i discovered it early so i lost only one photo of my dog ;]	20:51
DocScrutinizer	that's a definitive showstopper bug	20:52
DocScrutinizer	in my book it should cause CSSU update to get taken off the repos	20:52
DocScrutinizer	ASAP*	20:53
dos1	there's also another one bug, but only annoying - when camera shutter is closed when photo preview is displayed (and photo preview time is set to infinite), it has to be closed in order to make another photo, cause after opening shutter it displays "open shutter" window	20:54
dos1	and on closing it returns to photo preview	20:54
DocScrutinizer	dos1: please HOLLER about that, warn other users on channels as prominent as you could figure	20:54
DocScrutinizer	(data corruption isse that is)	20:55
DocScrutinizer	issue*	20:55
dos1	so:	20:56
dos1	WARNING: it seems that camera-ui from newest CSSU is overwriting photos taken by another applications (like BlessN900)!!!	20:56
dos1	;)	20:56
dos1	is there anyone who could look at it and probably revert camera-ui to older version ASAP?	20:58
dos1	(or better - fix it?)	20:58
DocScrutinizer	sorry I dunno who's in charge of nicocam maintenance	21:02
dos1	it seems that camera-ui just remembers number of last taken photo	21:03
dos1	this number is increased without checking, if file with such (increased) number already exists	21:03
DocScrutinizer	basically CSSU feels like one of those DVDs with collections of free apps you find in printed magazines every now and then	21:03
DocScrutinizer	""we packaged and shipped it for you. For any support or questions you might have, please contact the original author, not us"	21:05
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DocScrutinizer	dos1: indeed the camera-ui shouldn't even try to open-for-write an existing file, I think that should be a mode in fopen() that's incorrectly set in nicocam	21:15
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DocScrutinizer	umm no, a quick man fopen tought me there's no "noglobber" mode for fopen()	21:17
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DocScrutinizer	though: >>Glibc Notes: The GNU C library allows the following extensions for the string specified in mode: x Open the file exclusively (like the O_EXCL flag of open(2)). If the file already exists, fopen() fails, and sets errno to EEXIST.<<	21:22
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thingie	Hi, I was about to install community-ssu (http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU), but I did not have proper internet connection by the step 3, so I had to kill the download. Is it ok to just run HAM update now? When I rerun the Community SSU app again, it just tells me it's already set up.	21:28
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DocScrutinizer	I'd prepare for all sorts of nasty effects. I don't think there's a clean resume in CSSU install procedure	21:32
thingie	so perhaps I should remove and reinstall the community ssu app and try it again?	21:33
DocScrutinizer	otoh HAM is running a "normal" update after the installation, so this step can get resumed any time	21:34
thingie	it really looked just like apt-get install something	21:34
DocScrutinizer	sorry afaik there is no way to uninstall cssu	21:34
thingie	so i have to do it anyway :) no problem then :)	21:35
DocScrutinizer	yeah, just go ahead, if problems arise reflash to clean PR1.3 and restart from scratch with CSSU	21:35
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DocScrutinizer	dos1: btw aren't you supposed to work on SHR all day and night? ;-P	21:45
dos1	DocScrutinizer: i am! (well... almost ;))	21:46
dos1	but until we support sms and reach some basic stability i have to use maemo sometimes too ;)	21:48
sunkan	I don't use SIP that often but it has not been working after I updated to CSSU (took the plunge on the previous release) now with the new version 16 it still does not work. Is this a known issue, or is it not even related to the CSSU?	21:49
sunkan	I am missing the "use for telephone numbers" option in the advanced settings which makes it impossible to initiate a call. Also incoming calls just terminate immediately.	21:50
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DocScrutinizer	see my post on that topic on tmo - it's not related to CSSU but rather to an occasional apt-get autoremove	22:00
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DocScrutinizer	http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70875&highlight=sip fo your convenience	22:01
sunkan	Yes I just found something about rtcom-accounts-voip-support.. Which I just reinstalled, the option turned up.. Rebooting now to find out if everything works.	22:02
sunkan	Will check that URL out too thanks.	22:02
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sunkan	Yep, seems to work now after reboot! Great	22:03
DocScrutinizer	don't forget to thank on tmo!	22:04
DocScrutinizer	:-D	22:04
DocScrutinizer	it's labeled "thanks for this USEFUL post", not "thanks for that funny post"	22:05
sunkan	But I found it here https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 ;)	22:05
povbot	Bug 11831: Removal of mp-fremantle-*-pr breaks apt autoremover	22:05
amiconn	How can the camera app overwrite photos taken by another application? Afair blessn900/ abc uses a different naming scheme	22:06
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Creteil	freemangordon, are you up ?	22:12
DocScrutinizer	sunkan: so you should add a comment to ticket 11831	22:12
DocScrutinizer	amiconn: I wondered as well, but maybe blessn900 or fcam are smart enough to config the naming scheme to your liking ;-P	22:14
DocScrutinizer	no matter how it happened, it MUST NOT happen, never ever	22:14
DocScrutinizer	no app may delete old data by overwriting it, unless it's data created by the app and considered obsolete	22:15
DocScrutinizer	this case neither fulfills #2 nor #3 of above	22:15
DocScrutinizer	storing a picture is by definition not an operation that includes any unlink/overwrite on files	22:16
DocScrutinizer	>>The GNU C library allows the following extensions...: x Open the file exclusive... If the file already exists, fopen() fails...<<	22:18
DocScrutinizer	not using this system function when storing a photo is a bug	22:18
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DocScrutinizer	dos1: you already filed a bug against that?	22:26
dos1	amiconn: blessn900 uses the same naming scheme for me when doing standard shots	22:27
dos1	amiconn: i was trying to do "shallow" photo, but it failed due to low amount of light and stored standard photo instead	22:27
dos1	amiconn: later i discovered that it disappeared	22:28
DocScrutinizer	dos1: you already filed a bug against that?	22:28
dos1	amiconn: then tested both apps a bit and noticed that it gets overwritter	22:28
dos1	amiconn: not yet, i'm busy a bit...	22:28
dos1	but i will today	22:28
DocScrutinizer	at me?	22:28
DocScrutinizer	I'm already about to file a ticket	22:28
amiconn	Ah ok; never tried 'standard' mode, only 'HQ'	22:29
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dos1	oh, sorry, yes	22:29
dos1	DocScrutinizer: at you	22:29
dos1	DocScrutinizer: ok, then file it, thanks in advance	22:30
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MohammadAG	Hmm, suggestion for next CSSU update	22:43
MohammadAG	hook up CTRL+SHIFT+X to something other than hildon-desktop	22:43
DocScrutinizer	dos1: you're free to comment https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12381	22:44
povbot	Bug 12381: camera corrupts USER DATA (deletes existing pictures by overwriting them)	22:44
dos1	DocScrutinizer: thanks!	22:44
MohammadAG	holy shit @ bug	22:44
MohammadAG	well, from title	22:44
DocScrutinizer	no kidding	22:44
DocScrutinizer	absolute worst case	22:45
MohammadAG	DocScrutinizer, can you confirm it?	22:45
MohammadAG	if so this needs to be fixed yesterday	22:45
DocScrutinizer	nope, I'm not going to install this alternative camera-ui, now you see why	22:46
dos1	MohammadAG: i don't think this was happening before latest CSSU update	22:47
MohammadAG	dos1, that wasn't touched afaik	22:47
MohammadAG	check commits	22:47
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DocScrutinizer	I'd expect this to exist from beginning	22:49
DocScrutinizer	fix: change fopen() mode to "x"	22:49
dos1	hmm	22:50
DocScrutinizer	if the abstraction layer above fopen() doesn't allow this, then the layer has a problem	22:50
dos1	so maybe i just noticed it today	22:50
DocScrutinizer	use a better (or no) layer then	22:51
MohammadAG	ah	22:51
MohammadAG	actually err	22:51
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MohammadAG	this is kinda dumb http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/camera-ui/blobs/master/src/storage-helper.c#line48	22:52
MohammadAG	it should have a while (filename.exists()) increment number by 1	22:53
amiconn	This desktop rotation is fugly	22:53
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MohammadAG	freemangordon, arcean_ ping	22:59
amiconn	grml	23:02
amiconn	The new CSSU uninstalled modest-home-applet again	23:02
MohammadAG	yeah... that reminds me to do something	23:03
ThreeM	hehe	23:03
DocScrutinizer	MohammadAG: actually it probably should just retry with a timestamp increased by one second	23:03
DocScrutinizer	but first of all fix the fopen() call	23:04
amiconn	Same for microb-geolocation and rtcom-accounts-voip-support	23:04
dos1	DocScrutinizer: there is no time in filename, only date	23:04
DocScrutinizer	it has "x" mode for some reason	23:04
DocScrutinizer	aah k	23:04
DocScrutinizer	guint last_media_id = camera_ui2_get_gconf_last_media_id(); is the culprit then	23:05
amiconn	merlin1991?	23:05
DocScrutinizer	that's ill by design, should find out by checking folder content rather than storing this value in a gconf key	23:06
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MohammadAG	DocScrutinizer, yeah, that's what I'm saying	23:06
DocScrutinizer	so camera_ui2_get_gconf_last_media_id needs fixing	23:07
MohammadAG	no	23:07
DocScrutinizer	anf fopen() needs fixing	23:07
MohammadAG	filename = something should be fixed	23:07
MohammadAG	fopen() is fine	23:07
DocScrutinizer	NO IT ISN'T	23:07
DocScrutinizer	mode "x" is there for a reason	23:07
MohammadAG	<DocScrutinizer> it has "x" mode for some reason	23:08
DocScrutinizer	not using "x" is mere botch	23:08
MohammadAG	I implied that you meant it's in camera-ui's code	23:08
DocScrutinizer	fopen has mode "x" (glibc extension), see man 3 fopen	23:09
DocScrutinizer	with mode "x" camera-ui never been able to delete user data	23:09
DocScrutinizer	no matter how many flaws were in filename = something	23:10
MohammadAG	yesyes I thought you meant it's there	23:10
MohammadAG	in camera-ui	23:10
DocScrutinizer	sorry, been fuzzy, no it's probably not there (though I haven't managed to spot the codeline where the file gets opened)	23:13
MohammadAG	lemme find that, I'm sure I saw it	23:14
MohammadAG	oh	23:14
MohammadAG	gdigicam does the writing	23:14
MohammadAG	tsk tsk	23:14
DocScrutinizer	haha	23:15
MohammadAG	GDigicamCamerabinPictureHelper	23:15
MohammadAG	https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/camera-ui/blobs/master/src/camera-interface.c#line882	23:15
MohammadAG		23:16
MohammadAG	#define G_DIGICAM_CAMERABIN_VIEWFINDER_16X9_VIDEO_FPS 2500;	23:16
MohammadAG	someone should experiment with that	23:16
MohammadAG	#define G_DIGICAM_CAMERABIN_VIDEO_16X9_HIGH_WIDTH 848; And this	23:17
DocScrutinizer	g_digicam_manager_capture_still_picture is the next step towards offending line	23:18
DocScrutinizer	no fopen in the function() starting at https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/camera-ui/blobs/master/src/camera-interface.c#line882	23:18
MohammadAG	https://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-gdigicam/gdigicam/blobs/master/src/gdigicam-manager.c#line3975	23:20
MohammadAG	no fopen there either	23:20
MohammadAG	problem goes deeper	23:20
DocScrutinizer	btw next bug: "camera-ui naming scheme fails on more than 999 pictures per day taken", where again bug 12381 bites, this time without help of blessN900	23:22
povbot	Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12381 camera corrupts USER DATA (deletes existing pictures by overwriting them)	23:22
DocScrutinizer	http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/camera-ui/blobs/master/src/storage-helper.c#line72 & 77: s/%03d/%06d/	23:24
MohammadAG	I think the eMMC can't store 999 pics a day :P	23:26
DocScrutinizer	why not?	23:26
DocScrutinizer	I'd maybe agree it's unlikely to store more than 99999 per day	23:27
ThreeM	cause confused chinese flash cells	23:27
DocScrutinizer	so a %05d might well suffice	23:28
DocScrutinizer	%03d is mere silly	23:28
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DocScrutinizer	hmm, what's happening on printf("%03d", 98765) ?	23:31
DocScrutinizer	cmdline printf just expands the # of digits accordingly, which was a correct begahviour for camera-ui	23:32
DocScrutinizer	behaviour*	23:32
MohammadAG	https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/apt/commit/e6ae26a0e3d3018beb6b1bb0219fb1aef3128a85	23:38
MohammadAG	that should help with backups/restores of apps with apt-get	23:39
MohammadAG	now you don't need to use HAM, just do some greps and pass the packages to apt-get	23:39
MohammadAG	I understand it was needed when the Ovi Store repos had paid packages, but now that's gone	23:40
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MohammadAG	freemangordon, I need to push a quick update	23:50
MohammadAG	for osso-calculator-ui and to reduce questions about blacklisting camera-ui (including an updated desktop file)	23:50
MohammadAG	I'll add the whitelist, the code seems stable enough	23:51
arcean_	freemangordon: ^	23:51
MohammadAG	lemme just test it first	23:51
arcean_	MohammadAG: maybe also fix for Qt?	23:51
MohammadAG	where's that? merge request sent?	23:51
MohammadAG	does it fix TwimGo/kasvopus?	23:52
MohammadAG	(FYI, those aren't broken here)	23:52
arcean_	yes	23:52
arcean_	https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/merge_requests/5	23:52
arcean_	IIRC, it's an upstream bug	23:53
MohammadAG	well, that's gonna take a while to build + up	23:54
MohammadAG	oh well	23:54
arcean_	maybe even: https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com//browse/QTBUG-18755	23:54
MohammadAG	mergde	23:58

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