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| psycho_oreos | heh I wouldn't have the link on me, but I'm sure a quick search through the public log might help. I believe freemangordon was wanting the sources for the patched Qt framework used for the various updates incorporated into cssu | 13:43 |
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| psycho_oreos | he found out that the Qt framework in cssu was binary only. My guess is that he's wanting to suggest adding improvements to the cssu. | 13:44 |
| psycho_oreos | Then there was this other thread (most likely completely unrelated to the one aforementioned) on tmo about vertical hildon-home which is based on cssu | 13:44 |
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| freemangordon | MohammadAG:ping | 14:15 |
| psycho_oreos | and speaking of the devil ;) | 14:18 |
| MohammadAG | pong | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | check ssu QT on gitorious ;) | 14:19 |
| psycho_oreos | :o both are here ;) | 14:19 |
| freemangordon | and who's the devil :D ? | 14:19 |
| psycho_oreos | freemangordon: is this improvement in regards to portrait hildon-home? or something else? just out of curiousity | 14:20 |
| freemangordon | no | 14:20 |
| MohammadAG | oh cool! | 14:20 |
| freemangordon | something else | 14:20 |
| psycho_oreos | oh I was speaking about you a moment ago to Jaffa. I don't know if he was listening or not but I remember you were wanting to speak to MohammadAG and he didn't respond :) | 14:20 |
| MohammadAG | one question though | 14:20 |
| psycho_oreos | freemangordon: *nods* | 14:20 |
| freemangordon | ok, sorry | 14:20 |
| MohammadAG | qmake.conf is actually deleted on make distlcean | 14:21 |
| MohammadAG | distclean* | 14:21 |
| freemangordon | don't think so | 14:21 |
| psycho_oreos | just trying to push your query up (i.e. escalate) in order to get matter resolved | 14:21 |
| RST38h | New Maemo CSSU update? =) | 14:21 |
| MohammadAG | if yeah, we'll use sed in debian/rules | 14:21 |
| MohammadAG | thanks freemangordon | 14:21 |
| MohammadAG | just interested, how'd you find it? | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | make a debug build and surprise,surprise :) | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | made* | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | BTW | 14:22 |
| MohammadAG | and all apps are working? | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | I don't have much to test with, so, don't know | 14:23 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, ping | 14:23 |
| MohammadAG | I need to pull in 4.7.4 | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | it is 4.7.4 | 14:23 |
| MohammadAG | I recall it's 4.7.2 | 14:24 |
| freemangordon | changelog lies :D | 14:24 |
| MohammadAG | 4.7.4 is in x11-maemo | 14:24 |
| MohammadAG | not the CSSU repo | 14:24 |
| MohammadAG | hmm, wait | 14:26 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, seems like it's actually 4.7.4, sorry | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | yep, no problem | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | One thing to mention - widgets example consumes CPU in idle when on second stacked window (when you press Show various widgets) | 14:28 |
| freemangordon | So maybe there are other bugs to smash, but ... | 14:29 |
| MohammadAG | I'll check | 14:29 |
| freemangordon | other examples behave normaly (besides webkit, but that is expected) | 14:29 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, yeah, why not :) | 14:31 |
| MohammadAG | so Qt will be back to 4.7.4, meaning QtQuick 1.1 should work | 14:31 |
| MohammadAG | meaning Harmattan Qt components can be backported easily now | 14:31 |
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| freemangordon | ...and have in mind I don't drink beer, but Jack Daniel's :P :P :P | 14:33 |
| arcean | freemangordon, congrats! :D | 14:34 |
| freemangordon | 10x | 14:35 |
| MohammadAG | I owe you a beer then :P | 14:35 |
| freemangordon | :D | 14:35 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG: I would recomment you to play a little with those optimisation flag ( I am sick of QT builds right now so won't do it) to see which exactly optimisation breaks things. The reason is : | 14:41 |
| freemangordon | One of the differences between -O2 and -O3 is vectoriser, other is function inlining ,which may have performance impact | 14:42 |
| freemangordon | And also would recommend to cherry-pick all the commits from upsteram for src/gui/painting directory, there are several bugfixes there | 14:44 |
| freemangordon | *upstream | 14:45 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, FYI, 4.8 doesn't have the issue | 14:45 |
| freemangordon | hm, strange | 14:45 |
| freemangordon | so why we are not using it? | 14:45 |
| MohammadAG | cause it's a technical preview :P | 14:46 |
| freemangordon | ahaa, OK | 14:46 |
| freemangordon | I was thinking does it make sence one to raise a bug for gcc | 14:46 |
| freemangordon | *sense | 14:47 |
| MohammadAG | unless the fix is going in the CSSU, not sure | 14:47 |
| freemangordon | BTW did you ever try to build QT outside scratchbox, in madde on Windows for example? | 14:50 |
| MohammadAG | nope | 14:51 |
| freemangordon | Maybe we should ask pali to try it, he seems like madde fan | 14:53 |
| MohammadAG | afaik it's the same rootstrap though | 14:56 |
| freemangordon | BTW i saw you've just pulled x11-maemo on gitorious. It won't build :D. Some symbian guy has removed n900audio plugin from build. | 15:06 |
| freemangordon | here is the commit https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/de4bd221124e0a133858839b4b824165a9eb7dff | 15:06 |
| freemangordon | and you should restore src/gui/plugins/audio/audio.pro | 15:08 |
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| freemangordon | MohammadAG: I'll make a new MR fixing it in a minute | 15:21 |
| MohammadAG | sure, though it's building fine for now | 15:21 |
| MohammadAG | it got to webkit | 15:21 |
| freemangordon | it will break wne building packages ;) | 15:22 |
| freemangordon | when* | 15:22 |
| freemangordon | Did'n I say I am sick of QT builds? :D | 15:22 |
| MohammadAG | oh cool, -nc will fix that ;) | 15:24 |
| freemangordon | Damn, gitorious is down because of my commit | 15:35 |
| freemangordon | This cannot be true | 15:36 |
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| freemangordon | "Emergency reboot today at 14.30 CET Due to some changes in Gitorious’ network infrastructure, we need to reboot the servers today at 14.30 CET. This should be completed before 14:35 – we’ll post an update here once we’re done." | 15:41 |
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| * DocScrutinizer idly wonders what's state of cssu-stable now, and if the common sense about cssu-testing has adopted the paradigm of it not being a playground for cutting edge *improvements* that aren't needed for a "normal" system | 17:06 | |
| DocScrutinizer | the ill notion of cssu being an alternative OS version that's mainly targeted at replacing Nokia blobs by FOSS rewrites, no matter if the FOSS rewrite will integrate seamlessly into stock maemo, seems to spread all over the interwebs | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | as long as usability and stability of cssu is worse than stock maemo, the whole cssu thing failed its purpose | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | but meh, I seem to have stated that before, and I'm not going into that lengthy discussion again, as it ends with recommendations about *me* doing anything about it, like posting masterplans to ML and stuff like that | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | masterplans won't change common sense | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | and obviously cssu already has entered the SHR-syndrome which is every devel cares about pushing in some more "cute patches" while QA and maintaining a stable branch got abandoned several months ago and never will get picked up again | 17:16 |
| freemangordon | And why you say "usability and stability of cssu is worse than stock maemo" . Because I use it on my n900 with no ill effects and it is far more usable (i.e portrait thingy) than stock. My impression is that missing piece for CSSU to have "stable" branch was QT. Maybe I am wrong, now it is fixed so lets see. | 17:36 |
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| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: pong | 17:47 |
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| freemangordon | MohammadAG: new merge request here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/merge_requests/3 | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | omg freemangordon | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | raster fixed yayayayay | 18:08 |
| freemangordon | :) | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | what's the other one about though? | 18:09 |
| freemangordon | fixes package build | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | reverts this https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/commit/de4bd221124e0a133858839b4b824165a9eb7dff | 18:11 |
| merlin1991 | at least from that commit msg it looks like that system changed and old dirs are not needed? | 18:12 |
| freemangordon | yep, looks like that, but sources are there | 18:13 |
| merlin1991 | silly | 18:13 |
| freemangordon | and debian packaging insist on n900audio.so | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | anyway, that was the easiest way build to be done | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | we can remove those (if really not needed) later on | 18:15 |
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| MohammadAG | freemangordon, we'll need to ship recompiled Qt Mobility packages if we ship 4.7.4 | 19:08 |
| MohammadAG | 4.7.4 seems stable | 19:09 |
| Damnshock | hey guys | 19:16 |
| Damnshock | will the email client support imap idle? | 19:16 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: you pinged me, what's up? | 19:20 |
| MohammadAG | gas prices | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | Damnshock, if someone provides patches for it | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, can't remember tbh | 19:22 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 19:22 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: for imap idle there is a patch out there | 19:22 |
| Damnshock | MohammadAG: I remember there was a guy claiming he had successfully patched the client to allow imap idle | 19:22 |
| merlin1991 | needs testing iirc | 19:22 |
| Damnshock | that's why I was asking for it ;) | 19:22 |
| Damnshock | I would test but... my N900 is still at Nokia Care | 19:23 |
| Damnshock | it's been a month already :( | 19:23 |
| merlin1991 | :/ | 19:23 |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, offline imap? merged | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: in my book usability of a device that *forces* apps into portrait mode is worse than stock maemo where it's in landsacape and soesn't break when forcing it into portrait. As long as portrait mode brings new issues when trying to use the device in the classical way it is not ready for cssu | 19:25 |
| MohammadAG | don't use forced portrait? | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: portrait mode isn't by itself an increase in usability | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: haha | 19:27 |
| Damnshock | DocScrutinizer: that's debatable | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | mo it isn't | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | Yes, why using forced portrait? | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | Without it it is 100% as stock (excluding tasknav and portarited home) | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | sorry for typos | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | there's a gconf key for both | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | see, when HAM is switching to portrait mode despite me holding the device in landscape, as son as I click on "details" for a package, I'd like to smash the device on the wall, if either device or wall would have any fault on that | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | that's a hildon bug | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | I already said that | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | and it's been present since PR1.2 or before | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously portrait mode got enabled on cssu without comprehensive testing if everything still is working in *landscape* after that | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | you just noticed it cause more apps have the portrait flag now | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: I don't give a flying F*** if that's a hildon bug or some flea farting inside the device | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | I never had HAM in portrait mode before I switched to CSSU | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I fsckng don't like it in portrait mode | 19:31 |
| MohammadAG | add it to the blacklist in the next version | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: so now it's clear about "usability", yes? | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer: Sorry but i cannot discuss right now (GF wants my attention ), will disagree soon. | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | the fsckng thing is *Community* SSU, not Developer experimental SSU | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | a single regression from stock maemo is enough to render the thing moot | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | I have shitloads of regressions | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously developers contributing to cssu think "testing" means "let the users test for regressions, as my primary aim to introduce acme-mode to foo just works fine - CBA to test for regressions elsewhere myself" | 19:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | to make it utterly clear: there should go NO patches into cssu(-testing) that got build and "tested" (haha) less than 2 weeks ago. And those 2 weeks are sufficient only for patches that aren't supposed to have much impact on large parts of the system and nevertheless got thoroughly used and tested a lot by the original author prior to checking it in to cssu. For patches like portrait I'd think 4 weeks of quarantine and at least 5 | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | developers giving it a tough try during that timespan is minimum | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | I agree on that, but that is a matter of procedures, isn't it? | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | I don't get your point - please define "usability". And being a developer yourself - tell me when bringing new features does not bring regressions and new bugs? | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | I think I am very good developer, so fckng what? I am not god, neither are others . Are you? | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | What we are missing here (at least I am not aware of) is procedure to wollow | 19:50 |
| freemangordon | *follow | 19:50 |
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| freemangordon | I strongly agree there MUST be quarantine period to test new features, but checklist is lacking. And developer repo too. That is why TESTING CSSU is used for TESTING new features. | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | And having in mind my experience it does not matter how long and precise you test things in lab, there are always a bug or two not caught. | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: defining "testing" as "experimental" renders cssu in a useless state as it then failed epically to deliver *anything* usable to *community* so far | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | Why useless? | 19:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | simply because quite evidently nobody cares about cssu-stable | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | Your app manager bahaviour does not render the whole think useless, agree? | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | damn typos | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | no | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | I strongly disagree | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | it *is* useless to joe average user as long as such gross easily fixable regressions are to be found in cssu-testing and nothing at all is to be found in cssu-stable | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | And re stable - I am not the one to ask, sorry. Ask CSSU team members/admins. | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | I am not aware of the criteria testing repo to become stable. | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | But anyway saying that CSSU team and CSSU contributors are a bunch of boys with no personal life and lots of free time, which they are using to put a pile of crap int CSSU... sorry, disagree | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | BTW is there a bug opened for your app manager behaviour? | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: wait a minute! you claim testing==experimental, and it's the admin's duty to fix issues in testing to move everything to stable? Sorry, this sounds completely odd | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | and your ant abot devels not being "a bunch of boys with no personal life and lots of free time" actually as an excuse goes well inline with this ill notion about how development shall happen | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | Rant* | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | and your provocative query about a ticket sugests you think it's not any devel's duty to do anything about it without somebody opening a ticket against it | 20:05 |
| freemangordon | I am not claiming testing==experimental. Let me give you an example - before requesting a merge of initial portraited tasknav I was using it on my device (primary phone) for at least 3 weeks. After it was merged I think there were aditional time in which MohammadAG and maybe several others were using it. | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | hell, if you define testing as an experimental repo, then wtf is the one that shall do the tests and open tickets? | 20:06 |
| freemangordon | No bugs found until it go into users hands. | 20:06 |
| freemangordon | sorry, *went | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm all ok with that procedure | 20:06 |
| freemangordon | My query is not provocative, it was today I heard for the first time such bug exists, honestly. | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway now it's up to me to announce "bbl" | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | bbl? | 20:07 |
| freemangordon | ask google? :D | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | ahaaa, brb | 20:08 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer: Yep, reproduced the bug with app manager, will see if I can fix it. | 20:25 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer:: Cannot reproduce it with latest hildon-desktop on gitorioius. | 20:46 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: wich bug when going on details do you mean? | 20:58 |
| merlin1991 | everything that comes from apm works fine for me, only the select connection dialog is portrait | 20:59 |
| merlin1991 | err landscape ofc | 20:59 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: ? | 21:00 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: is the connection dialog from hildon-desktop? | 21:01 |
| MohammadAG | it's from icd, closed source | 21:01 |
| merlin1991 | icd as in? | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: fine, so I will eventually update to recent cssu release, not without doing a proper complete backup prior to that, so I may eventually restore stock camera app and stock mail. Have I missed other forced "updates" that are actually switching complete apps for a re-implementation of debatable quality? | 21:02 |
| MohammadAG | Internet Connectivity Daemon I think | 21:02 |
| MohammadAG | I still don't get your problem with the camera app | 21:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I'll let you know eventually which bugs I find in most recent version | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | He has forced rotation enabled ;) | 21:03 |
| merlin1991 | I always forget about forced rotation :D | 21:03 |
| merlin1991 | since imo it is a bad idea by design | 21:03 |
| merlin1991 | if a developer intends to give you portrait mode then he sets the flag, if not, not | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | It is designed as a tool for developers to test stock applications IMO | 21:04 |
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| merlin1991 | gotta test the protrait desktop patches, and if it works I need proper portrait c&c next | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: (camera) it's a core app, a really important app, and an app with *lots* of quality criteria. And it's not qualifying for a forced replacement, as no other part of cssu relies on the replacement to make cssu at large work. So it is a strictly optional package that can get installed by any user any time, from extras(-devel), nothing at all about cssu | 21:05 |
| merlin1991 | (ofc it will "work" but I mean it by providing a smooth experience) | 21:05 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: afaik not from -dvel | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | MohammadAG: actually it seems there IS a bug in HAM, it rotates to portrait when phone is in landscape and you click on a group (in main screen) | 21:06 |
| merlin1991 | hm I need to open a bugreport about camera | 21:06 |
| merlin1991 | it lackst a stock feature | 21:06 |
| merlin1991 | *lacks* | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | leaving guys, have a nice (day, evening) | 21:07 |
| arcean | MohammadAG: important fix https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-home/merge_requests/4 | 21:09 |
| MohammadAG | imo, a whitelist should've been implemented rather than a blacklist | 21:12 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, so, it got replaced, we can't go back from there, what's the problem with it? | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | with cam? | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | just what I said above | 21:13 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, can you help reverse the 9 commits on hildon-home? | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | claiming a "we already messed it up, so let's keep it this way"isn't exactly a sane argument | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: tell me what you want me todo and I'll do it to the repo | 21:15 |
| merlin1991 | also finishing a bugreport atm | 21:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you happily can continue to support it for updates, while not mandatorily replacing stock cam for new installs | 21:15 |
| merlin1991 | Bug 12318 | 21:15 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12318 camera-ui open lid dialog has no close button | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAH | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | that bug has been bugging me the past few days | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | should be a quick fix though | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | bug 99999: camera-ui is not really package that belongs to cssu | 21:17 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/99999 was not found. | 21:17 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: there's even a bug like that | 21:18 |
| merlin1991 | err report ofc | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 21:18 |
| merlin1991 | bug 12203 | 21:18 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12203 CSSU forces immature camera-ui replacement on user | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds like it's one of my bugs | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, can you end the camera-ui doesn't belong in CSSU discussion? | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | it can't be reversed | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | WTF?! | 21:20 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: he's right though about the fact that we can change the way camera-ui is installed in the next version to prevent the problem on new cssu installs | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12203#c1 | 21:20 |
| povbot | Bug 12203: CSSU forces immature camera-ui replacement on user | 21:20 |
| * DocScrutinizer fetching the pumpgun | 21:20 | |
| merlin1991 | looking for the get off my lawn achievement? | 21:21 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, that'd be for stable, not -testing | 21:21 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: ofc | 21:21 |
| merlin1991 | but the sooner we add it the better | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: no I can't. No, it can. And NO YOU MUST NOT perpetuate an error you did in the past, just because you think new users shouldn't get better stuff than old users that suffer from your error | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | add what? | 21:22 |
| merlin1991 | moving the files in the package around and haveing a new install for it that in theory would achieve proper non replacing installation should not break funcitonality | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: no I can't. No, it can. And NO YOU MUST NOT perpetuate an error you did in the past, just because you think new users shouldn't get better stuff than old users that suffer from OUR error | 21:22 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: srly, relax | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | Yeah, and you must not distribute Nokia binaries | 21:22 |
| MohammadAG | suffer from WHAT | 21:22 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: but, we can change the package in such a way that it does not get rid of the original blob, which is everything doc talks about | 21:23 |
| merlin1991 | hinting at it with the suffering too, meaning that the current camera-ui in the current cssu still replaces the nokia blob on install | 21:24 |
| MohammadAG | bugs are getting fixed, no one suffering | 21:24 |
| MohammadAG | one's* | 21:24 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, which version of modest do you have? | 21:24 |
| merlin1991 | 3.90.7-8 | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: indeed, that's all I ask for: get a "cp camera-ui.launch camera-ui.launch.backup"into pre-install | 21:25 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: I just booted the proper os, so wich commits should get reverted? | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | and for the poor souls that already nuked their stock camera there's obviously an idiot out there who didn't care to properly set permissions of this file: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/camera-ui.launch | 21:28 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 21:29 |
| merlin1991 | all hail doc ;) | 21:29 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh pushed 9 commits to community-ssu/hildon-home:master master changed from bb23a2c to fb0f2d1 | 21:31 |
| merlin1991 | all the bg shit? | 21:32 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: shall it revert each commit seperately or in one new commit? | 21:34 |
| MohammadAG | arcean_, what's the status on bug 12258? | 21:36 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12258 Osso-pdf-viewer, broken toolbar ui in portrait mode | 21:36 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, yes, and I'm lagging like shit | 21:37 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: kep on lagging and answer the 2nd question too :D | 21:38 |
| arcean_ | MohammadAG: already fixed | 21:38 |
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| merlin1991 | I've got the feeling my msysgit is pure crap | 21:38 |
| MohammadAG | arcean, and already released? | 21:39 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, tbh, I don't mind, I just want those patches out of the repo asap :P | 21:40 |
| arcean | MohammadAG: no, only patched in CSSU repo | 21:41 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, done with the reverts? | 22:04 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: had to go for dinner | 22:17 |
| merlin1991 | doing them now | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | grrr, signin to bugs.maomo.org failing | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | OOOH GREAT, this one wants my email account instead of my maemo nick | 22:21 |
| merlin1991 | hm does one know how to decrypt you ssh key in .ssh and encrypt it with another password? | 22:23 |
| vStone | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ssh-changing-passphrase/ | 22:23 |
| vStone | did you even google that :p | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | vStone: I googled it like 5 times | 22:24 |
| merlin1991 | but I'm a known google keywords failmaster | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | I even looked at the docs for ssh-keygen | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | hm I'm starting to wtf here | 22:26 |
| merlin1991 | it just denied with bad passphrase even though I used that key file to ssh into gitorious | 22:26 |
| vStone | seems to work fine here | 22:28 |
| vStone | you sure you didnt mistype your password :) | 22:28 |
| merlin1991 | oh ffs | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | key file had permission 755 so it did ignore the file at some point but still ask me about the pw | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc blame it on bad passphrase and not no keyfile | 22:30 |
| vStone | I'm sure you'll check your permissions first off next time ;) | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | hey I was trusting ssh-keygen to set proper permissions when creating the key | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | stupid inconsistent permission bs | 22:32 |
| vStone | I think thats more of a umask thingie | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | well, keygen could check them after writing the key, right | 22:32 |
| vStone | I'm sure somebody at openssh will mumble: patches welcome | 22:33 |
| vStone | :) | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | but thanks for the help :) | 22:33 |
| vStone | yw | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: this is going to take a lil, reverting creates conflicts :/ | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: why are we reverting it though? (need to write a proper commit msg) | 22:36 |
| MohammadAG | cause it fucks up backgrounds | 22:36 |
| MohammadAG | it should allow the user to show/hide backgrounds | 22:36 |
| MohammadAG | instead, it hides them | 22:36 |
| merlin1991 | so it's broken, k | 22:37 |
| MohammadAG | FYI, we can revert up to a commit and then reapply the new commits again | 22:39 |
| merlin1991 | that would break everyones copy | 22:40 |
| merlin1991 | forcing a new clone | 22:40 |
| merlin1991 | bad idea | 22:40 |
| MohammadAG | k | 22:42 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: revert is in place | 22:52 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, all 9 commits are reverted right? | 23:04 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 23:04 |
| merlin1991 | it looks weird because the revert on the merge reverts everthing in the branch in 1 commit | 23:04 |
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| merlin1991 | sadly git wizzard isn't enough to apply for a n950 :D | 23:11 |
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