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| SpacedOut | Raise a virtual hand to volunteer test modest/tinymail idle imap support. Unlike the disabled idle support, modest is actually idle between server keep alives. For me that's 4 system calls every 4.5 minutes. | 05:50 |
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| SpacedOut | It's a rather large patch, 48 change sets, 55 files changed, 1212 insertions, 814 deletions. Are the tinymail/debian/rules and control file not supposed to be in git | 05:56 |
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| SpacedOut | No takers? I guess I'll continue testing on my own, just as well, a was woken up at 4am after the previous build was eating up the cpu for a few hours since it was offline and it couldn't talk to the server, fixed but there may very well be others. | 06:42 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer no, I wonder if it breaks stuff like fcam | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, we probably can't do this without replacing kernel, no? | 17:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: how's livinh? | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | living* | 17:30 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, yeah, I just wonder if it breaks the USB public API | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | please elaborate | 17:31 |
| MohammadAG | still on holidays, same as my n950, still a new order :P | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | n950 new order sounds concerning | 17:32 |
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| MohammadAG | should ship this monday, given the the OID | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GRRRRRRR settings->FMTX -->portrait mode. I HATE it >:-( | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | lock/unlock screen makes it turn to landscape | 18:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | same for frequency selector | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | each time you click on freq button, the menu/requester comes up in portrait again, from a landscape (settings->)FMTX requester. lock+unlock and it turns to landscape. close and open again and it's in portrait again | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | mega annoying | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually it's the same with "About CSSU" | 18:03 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, h-d bug | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | and when you close the display "About CSSU" without forcing it back to landscape, even the settings-dialog is in portrait then | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | honestly it makes me want to throw the N900 at the wall | 18:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what means "h-d bug"? This behaviour is unknown from pre-CSSU times, when only MHD was installed | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | so obviously sth got introduced into CSSU that assumes a property of some other part of the system that is not given, and so this is a CSSU bug after all | 18:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | when my electrician installs a 2kW heater in my bathroom and switching it on makes the 6A fuse in the distribution box blow, then that's not a bug of the distribution box. Sorry got no better example | 18:15 |
| * DocScrutinizer would honestly prefer to kick out friggin portrait support from CSSU all together, on this particular device. It introduces lots of annoyances and zero additional usability | 18:18 | |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, actually it was known, to me at least | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | pre CSSU and pre MHD | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | never happened here prior to CSSU installation | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | even worse if we knew about it and didn't bother to fix it with CSSU | 18:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and I'm pretty damn sure about that - it was NOT there prior to CSSU | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe h-d had no support for proper portrait mode reporting ever since, but it didn't need it cause there was no portrait mode other than in microB maybe | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | but you can't implement portait mode and rely on such a nonexistent feature of h-d and then attribute it a "bug in h-d" | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | it must get fixed. There's definitely no good in CSSU going "we offer a new feature C, it comes with new bugs W. X and Y" | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | CSSU won't be perceived as any kind of improvement over stock maemo this way | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | number of fixed issues always has to be > number of newly introduced issues | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually ideally number of newly introduced issues should regularly be zero, each time it isn't is a really embarrassing day | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | as it means the developer who checked in that broken package was lazy and sloppy enough to either not notice, or worse not to care at all about those regressions | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | this ruins confidence in CSSU being a good thing | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | "I don't need it so I don't bother" is a bad notion for a COMMUNITY repo | 18:36 |
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| SpacedOut | Raise a virtual hand to volunteer test modest/tinymail idle imap support. Unlike the disabled idle support, modest is actually idle between server keep alives. For me that's 4 system calls every 4.5 minutes. | 21:25 |
| trumee | Are there any plans of incorporating offline imap patch in CSSU? http://mat.exon.name/modest/ | 21:31 |
| SpacedOut | The offline imap patch has already been merged into the cssu tinymail/modest repository. | 21:34 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: ah, thanks | 21:36 |
| SpacedOut | Have you tried it? | 21:36 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: i used Nokia Messaging so maybe that is the reason i didnt see it | 21:36 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: No, i havent used the patch seperately as such. | 21:37 |
| SpacedOut | I tried the patch out yesterday. It works. | 21:38 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: ok, i dont see the option 'mcenfladvsetupofflinesync' on my device | 21:40 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: running cssu | 21:40 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: although i do see 'mcefioptionstreeview' in the settings tab | 21:41 |
| SpacedOut | The source has been merged, but I don't think any of the packages have been released that include it. I just compiled it myself. | 21:41 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: that explains it. | 21:42 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: any ideas what does mcefioptionstreeview do? | 21:46 |
| SpacedOut | Option Tree View, it gives a tree of account/mailbox in the top level window. | 21:47 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: ah, crap. enabling that killed modest | 21:50 |
| SpacedOut | It should have come right back. | 21:50 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: modest is not even starting now | 21:50 |
| SpacedOut | That part's not good. Check and see if it's running. | 21:51 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: | 21:51 |
| trumee | modest: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/modest.launch: undefined symbol: | 21:51 |
| trumee | tny_gtk_folder_store_tree_model_set_path_separator | 21:51 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: i get that error if i start modest from xterm | 21:51 |
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| trumee | SpacedOut: is there any settings text file which i can edit to revert back since gui is not coming back | 21:52 |
| SpacedOut | If you do a package manager update is there a newer version? | 21:53 |
| SpacedOut | There is the configuration is in gconf. I would have to look it up myself. | 21:53 |
| SpacedOut | What's the version number for modest? | 21:53 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: i am doing an apt-get update | 21:54 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: apt-cache showpkg modest ? | 21:56 |
| SpacedOut | dpkg -l modest | 21:57 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: 3.90.7-8 | 21:57 |
| SpacedOut | That's right, but your tinymail must be out of date. | 21:58 |
| SpacedOut | dpkg -l libtinymail-1.0-0 | 21:59 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: 1.1.92+0m5 | 21:59 |
| SpacedOut | should be 1.1.92+1cssu1 | 22:00 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: ok upgraded libtinymail to 1.1.92+1cssu1 now | 22:02 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: crap, modest is still not coming up. do i need to reboot? | 22:03 |
| SpacedOut | There are 5 or 6 tinymail packages that need updated together. | 22:03 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: did an apt-get -s upgrade, http://www.pastie.org/2227906 | 22:05 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: | 22:06 |
| trumee | libtinymail-camel-1.0-0 | 22:06 |
| trumee | libtinymail-gnomevfs-1.0-0 libtinymail-maemo-1.0-0 libtinymailui-1.0-0 libtinymailui-gtk-1.0-0 | 22:06 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: i guess the above pkgs need to be upgraded? | 22:06 |
| SpacedOut | Yes, they all compile together. | 22:06 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: finally got it. | 22:10 |
| trumee | SpacedOut: thanks for help. | 22:10 |
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| SpacedOut | DocScrutinizer: Raise a virtual hand to volunteer test modest/tinymail idle imap support. Unlike the disabled idle support, modest is actually idle between server keep alives. For me that's 4 system calls every 4.5 minutes. | 22:37 |
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| sunkan | I have u-boot and power kernel installed. Do I need to uninstall anything before installing CSSU? | 23:16 |
| SpacedOut | I've never tried u-boot, but I do have the power-kernel installed, that is fine. | 23:29 |
| sunkan | SpacedOut: Ok, I'll give it a go and see what happens.. Have been backing up stuff for a while now so I think I'h safe ;) | 23:32 |
| SpacedOut | Great, I'll uplodate it to gitorious and post the link... | 23:38 |
| SpacedOut | https://gitorious.org/~dfries/community-ssu/dfriess-community_ssu_modest/commits/idle_work https://gitorious.org/~dfries/community-ssu/dfriess-tinymail/commits/idle_work | 23:42 |
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| SpacedOut | The two problems to look out for are it eating up your cpu, the last time that happened I deleted a message while offline, that one is fixed I just don't know if there are others, and I've seen it get stuck refreshing which required killing modest. | 23:50 |
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