IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2011-05-03

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DocScrutinizerfor sure not, input methods aren't handled (or shall I say shouldn't?) by Qt, on a per app basis. Such thing like a vkbd needs integration into the system, rather than a specific app. Otherwise you get different keyboards on each single app which isn't what you want - though e.g opera is doing exactly that. Fie opera!02:40
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MohammadAGJaffa, may I suggest exposing all packages in HAM by default?13:47
MohammadAGThis way, we get rid of the need of a metapackage dependency which prevents selective upgrades, we'll still provide that though for inexperienced users and in the stable version13:48
MohammadAGthen we add a script, something ala Ubuntu13:49
MohammadAGin Ubuntu, touch /var/run/reboot-required causes the applet at the top to turn to red, indicating a reboot is required to apply updates13:53
JaffaMohammadAG: How are they connected?13:54
MohammadAGJaffa, they?13:54
MohammadAGit just watches the file13:54
MohammadAGif it exists, change to reboot required, if not, show as a normal shutdown button13:55
JaffaMohammadAG: Although my initial reaction is that it's a bad idea for a couple of big reasons: 1) HAM will be slow, *much* slower. 2) A lot more packages will be visible which means more care on descriptions and XB-Maemo-Display-Names and XB-Maemo-Icons; 3) it's harder to test a configuration13:55
JaffaAh, I see.13:55
JaffaSo a "partial" upgrade can still indicate a reboot is required.13:55
MohammadAGwell, a postinst would touch that file, and a postinst can't run if installation fails13:57
MohammadAGJaffa, will it be slow if they're only shown in the upgrades section13:57
MohammadAGwe don't want users having hildon-desktop in the uninstall section...13:58
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JaffaMohammadAG: Showing only in the upgrades section could be an option14:02
JaffaMore sensible than having in Install or Uninstall14:02
JaffaYeah, I meant doing a lib/framework-only upgrade would touch the file. Not "partial" in the technical sence14:02
Jaffas/sence/sense/14:02
MohammadAGoh14:02
MohammadAGJaffa, btw, completely unrelated, but how do you get the access code for the facebook graph API without embedding a browser in Hermes?14:04
JaffaMohammadAG: Facebook requires a URL to redirect to after the browser is launched; it passes the tokens back in the URL to that. Since it will be accessed by the browser on the device, I spin up a tiny web server to deal with one request and retrieve the tokens.14:06
MohammadAGJaffa, oh, I'm assuming this server runs locally on device?14:11
MohammadAG(I'm using QWebKit atm then closing the login window when the URL's redirected to the success page)14:11
JaffaMohammadAG: Correct14:12
RST38hheya Mohammad14:14
JaffaMohammadAG: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=hermes;a=blob;f=package/src/oauth2.py;h=f47dee03de414a85aff2923ca1eb84fbd3fee022;hb=HEAD14:18
MohammadAGhi RST38h14:23
MohammadAGJaffa, I see14:24
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DamnshockMohammadAG: selective upgrades would be cool but... a nightmare to mantain14:53
DamnshockI, for one, would like to see them though14:54
Damnshock;)14:54
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onion_I'd like to upgrade my sbox install to the cssu versions, any hints on how to do that ? apt-get just complains15:16
onion_anyone?15:44
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MohammadAGonion_, the CSSU repo only holds armel binaries16:25
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khertanMohammadAG: any progress in raster engine ,17:04
khertan?17:04
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MohammadAGkhertan, nope17:26
khertan:(17:26
DamnshockMohammadAG: what's exactly the problem with the raster engine?17:28
Damnshockhave you located it?17:28
MohammadAGno, I just know it was broken somewhere between 4.7.0 and 4.7.217:31
MohammadAGit's somehow related to palettes I think17:31
MohammadAG(which explains why the focus circle in FCam is gone)17:31
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Damnshockhave you reported the but to the Qt guys?17:41
DamnshockI mean, nokia?17:41
MohammadAGDamnshock, you think they care?17:43
DamnshockMohammadAG: they might...17:44
Damnshocksometimes good things happen17:44
Damnshockthey won't fix it if we do not notify them17:44
Damnshockthat's *sure*17:44
MohammadAGhttp://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-1872017:44
Damnshockwell, it's been assigned17:54
Damnshockhopefully they'll fix it ;)17:54
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Damnshockby the way, MohammadAG, have you tried the opengl engine?17:54
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MohammadAGDamnshock, yeah, it crashes a lot18:09
Damnshockhahahahaha nice explanation MohammadAG18:10
Damnshocksame for me on my desktop ;)18:10
MohammadAGDamnshock, he's the default assignee for Maemo 5 afaik18:10
Damnshockhe? who?18:10
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MohammadAGHarald18:13
khertanDamnshock: the opengl engine is completely broken18:15
khertanMohammadAG: you think it s related to palette ?18:15
khertani ve found something else18:16
khertanin a qtextedit without wrapping when the text is larger than what can be display the bug didn't appear18:16
khertanfor me it s look like a clipping update problem18:16
khertanbut as i didn't found where it s could be not :)18:17
BCMMare there guidelines on using icons from osso-icons-default, not necessarily for their intended purpose?18:22
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BCMManswered my own question, sorry: "Please use the icons as inspiration for your own icon designs or simply reuse the icons in your own application to ensure a consistent look and feel across the user interfaces of Maemo applications." from http://www.forum.nokia.com/document/Maemo_5_Icon_List/18:25
BCMMin that case, how are they licensed? is modification permitted?18:25
BCMMoh, wrong channel. sorry.18:26
BCMMthought this was #maemo18:27
thpBCMM: IANAL, but I think that if you compose the icons to form a composite icons for use in your maemo 5 app, you should be fine18:44
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threshhi guys. after updating to CSSU it seems FMTX no longer works. any reason why?20:54
MohammadAGnope, both fmtxd and fmtx_client are closed source21:11
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JaffaSomething related to the binary hacked versin21:37
Jaffa?21:38
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MohammadAGnope21:48
MohammadAGoh, nvm, I thought you meant CSSU binary patching21:48
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threshMohammadAG: grah :(22:16
MohammadAGthresh, how does it not work btw?22:23
MohammadAGtry fmtx_client -p1 in terminal22:24
threshMohammadAG: everything in GUI shows it's working, but no music is being transmitted22:24
MohammadAGhmm22:25
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threshon earlier firmwares, when no music was played, it was just silence and some beeps. I don't hear those now either, so I believe FMTX isnt being initialized properly22:27
threshofcourse, I've tried different frequencies and rebooted the phone22:27
threshI'll try fmtx_client -p1 tomorrow, thanks22:28
threshany particular place to look for stderr or something?22:29
threshso I've tried enabling it one a home radio system and it does not change anything22:32
threshs/one/on/22:32
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MohammadAGthresh, it might be a hardware problem23:05
MohammadAGyou could ask on #maemo23:05
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threshMohammadAG: I did, no reply..23:37
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threshI wonder if I could reflash to older maemo23:38
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MohammadAGit doesn't matter really, if it's a hardware problem23:38
MohammadAGhave you updated the kernel or something?23:39
threshI think I have a power one, let me check23:39
threshyes, 2.6.28.10power46 is the one I run23:40
threshMohammadAG: well it could help rule CSSU out of the equation so I could be sure it's a HW prob23:40
MohammadAGI don't see a reason for it to fail hardware-wise then23:40
MohammadAGwell, it's not the CSSU for sure23:41
threshokay. last time I tried FMTX was in October '10, I only use it on vacations in rented cars :)23:41
MohammadAGsomeone did mention that pressing the keyboard on their (faulty) N900 made the FMTX work23:42
MohammadAGso you could try that I guess23:42
threshmmm23:42
MohammadAGlol23:42
threshsounds weird :)23:42
MohammadAGI know, but I think the FMTX lies somewhere near the USB side of the device23:42
threshokay23:44
threshgood night23:44
MohammadAGnight :)23:47

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