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thp | MohammadAG: it's not hard to suck at the Gtk C API. it's damn difficult/verbose :) | 15:14 |
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thp | MohammadAG: btw, does that s60v5 mediabar thingie still exist somewhere? linky maybe? | 15:14 |
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MohammadAG | thp, s60v5 has it built in | 15:38 |
MohammadAG | thp, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68249 | 15:40 |
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thp | i wonder if something like "swipe from left" (as in the browser for cursor mode) could be implemented from right and used to activate the bar, system-wide | 16:03 |
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macmaN | how far away is the connection chooser from having portrait support? | 21:13 |
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thp | macmaN: the one with 3g/wlan connections? | 22:23 |
macmaN | yeah thp | 22:23 |
macmaN | just noticed today offlining in portrait FAPMan how annoying it is to have that pop up several times in short time in another view | 22:24 |
thp | macmaN: it works fine with forced portrait mode for me. for "normal" mode, it depends on a) someone setting the required flags on the dialog (requires source access) or b) someone implementing black-/whitelisting of portrait-ability for closed apps | 22:24 |
macmaN | oh the chooser is closed source? | 22:25 |
thp | i'm not sure | 22:25 |
macmaN | me neither, thought id throw the question out, was in the middle of some other stuff | 22:25 |
thp | anyway, forced rotation works fine for me in combination with the rotation lock applet | 22:25 |
macmaN | i think id like to stay off the forced portrait for now, but since whitelisting isnt there yet either i guess ill just have to live with it. | 22:26 |
thp | that's fine too. it's not forced portrait, though (mistyped that above). it's forced auto-rotation | 22:26 |
macmaN | yeah i got the pt | 22:27 |
macmaN | i took a look today how to get MyDocs/Podcasts off tracker | 22:27 |
macmaN | having that solved, i just had to repeat to myself this is the best phone out there right now | 22:28 |
thp | :) | 22:28 |
macmaN | if there was a company that would try to come up with a new hardware device for maemo5 + cssu, id seriously apply for a job there | 22:29 |
macmaN | or find a way to get into that | 22:29 |
macmaN | i guess meego is the next best thing.. | 22:30 |
macmaN | feels like it will just take too long mature | 22:31 |
* macmaN done soapboxing | 22:31 | |
thp | i'm curious what meegoconf will bring. there were some talks about LG demoing something | 22:33 |
Jaffa | thp: Hopefully more than just more "prototypes" | 22:33 |
macmaN | saw the blogpost | 22:33 |
Jaffa | Intel demo prototypes. SE demo prototypes. TI demo prototypes. NVidia demo prototypes. | 22:33 |
Jaffa | Bored of prototypes. | 22:33 |
Jaffa | MeeGo needs a mass market consumer electronics vendor "stat" | 22:33 |
* Jaffa did this rant already (see tomorrow's MWKN ;-)) | 22:34 | |
thp | SE = sony ericsson? | 22:34 |
* Jaffa nods | 22:35 | |
Jaffa | Interestingly the sf2011.meego.com link is no longer present: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/porting-meego-lge-multiple-smart-devices-and-introduction-lges-open-source-contribu | 22:35 |
thp | hehe ;) they pulled it? | 22:38 |
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Jaffa | Mirroed at http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/04/confirmed-lg-lge-present-prototype-devices-meego-conference/ | 22:41 |
thp | Jaffa: yep. it was more like getting meego to run on existing devices that run android? | 22:41 |
macmaN | guys, is there some comprehensive document on android vs meego, what the difference is | 22:42 |
macmaN | from consumer, developer, device mf pov | 22:42 |
macmaN | (are there any other significant parties?) | 22:43 |
macmaN | lets say someone wants to bring a mobile product up to market and some android fanboi screams "lets do android!". how would i argue for meego? | 22:44 |
macmaN | fanboi is team member, like me* | 22:44 |
macmaN | my head currently has "its pure unrestricted linux, therefore you can just plain do more and do better. in a certain x length of time-term view" | 22:46 |
thp | macmaN: well, on meego you can basically use everything from linux userland, including all the usual x11-based stuff. with android, you are (mostly) restricted to their own java-based API. exceptions are of course possible (i.e. c/c++ for opengl es games, also a port of qt exists to android) | 22:47 |
Sc0rpius | Android is not very good | 22:47 |
Sc0rpius | I mean I have an Android tablet and it's fun, but there's no real multitasking | 22:48 |
Sc0rpius | they are "frozen" when you change from one application to another | 22:48 |
macmaN | we recently bought a galaxy tab with my woman to finally see close up what android is all about | 22:48 |
Sc0rpius | and the applications are randomly closed if another needs the memory | 22:48 |
Sc0rpius | it's a different model | 22:48 |
Sc0rpius | the Samsung Galaxy Tab is the best tablet I've ever seen SO FAR and that includes iShit | 22:48 |
macmaN | i thought initially that im ready to switch from n900 | 22:48 |
macmaN | then thp put out his videos of portrait mode :) | 22:49 |
Sc0rpius | the N900 is way too powerful | 22:49 |
macmaN | then came the cssu and then i learned how to qemu n900 binaries on my i5 box over nfs | 22:49 |
Sc0rpius | I wouldn't move though I have the best of every world (N900, Android Tablet, Windows laptops, Linux desktops) | 22:49 |
Sc0rpius | now | 22:50 |
Sc0rpius | I hear there's gonna be a Meego tablet | 22:50 |
Sc0rpius | now that's something I'd look forward to | 22:50 |
macmaN | and now i have no desire *at all* to move from n900 anymore, now that the open media player etc is coming | 22:50 |
Sc0rpius | yeah N900 is cool | 22:50 |
Sc0rpius | I don't really care about the lack of applications, if I need something, I code it :P | 22:51 |
macmaN | that too. but there's so much stuff already. | 22:51 |
macmaN | conboy is the killer app for me | 22:51 |
macmaN | with gpodder now recently | 22:51 |
macmaN | sleepanalyzer just joined the fray | 22:51 |
macmaN | oh, and OPERA | 22:51 |
macmaN | i am so unhappy fennec is just lagging SO far behind on launch speed | 22:52 |
Sc0rpius | Adobe should give us a 10.x flash plugin :( | 22:52 |
Sc0rpius | fennec is too slow. | 22:52 |
Sc0rpius | I'm fine with microb | 22:52 |
macmaN | i gotta figure out an approach for encrypting homedir on n900, then id really miss firefox sync | 22:53 |
macmaN | doesnt power-kernel have dmcrypt? | 22:54 |
Sc0rpius | no clue | 22:54 |
Sc0rpius | I use the stock omap kernel | 22:54 |
macmaN | i switched to power-kernel i *think* for ocing | 22:55 |
macmaN | and ipv6 and crypt support i think | 22:55 |
macmaN | hrm, should i start bootstrapping prefix on the n900 at 11pm | 22:56 |
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