| MohammadAG | should be under Nokia N900 | 00:00 |
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| merlin1991 | true it's there | 00:00 |
| merlin1991 | but kinda weird | 00:00 |
| merlin1991 | also the ui seems laggish as hell with treeview enabled | 00:01 |
| MohammadAG | seems faster to me :P | 00:01 |
| MohammadAG | I use Nokia Messaging though | 00:01 |
| merlin1991 | nah scrolling trough the tree lags | 00:02 |
| Sc0rpius | merlin1991, in Modest, (sadly), the Sent folder is a local N900 folder | 00:04 |
| Sc0rpius | so look for it in your "N900 folder" | 00:04 |
| Sc0rpius | it's the way it's coded, not my fault :S | 00:04 |
| merlin1991 | yeah found it there, but since scrolling trough the tree lags for me, I did disable tree view for now | 00:04 |
| MohammadAG | scrolling's fast for me, I'll gladly blame... umm, tracker? yeah, tracker should be fine | 00:05 |
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| merlin1991 | I blame mail for exchange ;) | 00:06 |
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| Sc0rpius | I'll check that lagging | 00:07 |
| Sc0rpius | it doesn't lag heavily to me but I think I notice that it scrolls a little slower through the account names than the folder names | 00:08 |
| Sc0rpius | I mean if you have several pages of folders (like me) it scrolls very very fast | 00:08 |
| merlin1991 | I have 3 accounts | 00:09 |
| Sc0rpius | but when it reaches an account (that has "Last updated: blabla") it goes a little slower until it disappears from the screen | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | 1 mail for exchange 1 pop3 and 1 impa | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | and I see all 3 most of the time when scrolling | 00:09 |
| Sc0rpius | I'll do some tests later (disabling the Last Update label to see if that's the cause) | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | I'll do the camera-ui wiki page tomorrow | 00:10 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, I'm lowering your paycheck | 00:11 |
| merlin1991 | fuck | 00:11 |
| merlin1991 | less than 0 means I have to pay you now | 00:11 |
| merlin1991 | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 00:11 |
| merlin1991 | ;) | 00:12 |
| MohammadAG | xD | 00:12 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: bug in your mediaplayer | 00:15 |
| MohammadAG | it's not released? I know | 00:15 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 00:15 |
| merlin1991 | starting itself in portrait works | 00:15 |
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| merlin1991 | strating it in portrait from the original mediaplayer applet fail to start | 00:15 |
| merlin1991 | screen rotates h-d fake screen comes | 00:16 |
| merlin1991 | then it closes again | 00:16 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 00:16 |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, wfm | 01:16 |
| merlin1991 | wanna have a vid? | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | I believe you lol | 01:17 |
| MohammadAG | dbus-monitor --session | grep -A 4 mediaplayer | 01:17 |
| merlin1991 | empty | 01:19 |
| merlin1991 | OO | 01:19 |
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| MohammadAG | o_O | 01:19 |
| MohammadAG | dbus-monitor --session then | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | actually not empty, but when I pipe it it's empty | 01:21 |
| merlin1991 | wtf | 01:21 |
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| merlin1991 | dbus-monitor --session | grep -A 4 mediaplayer > bin.txt | 01:25 |
| merlin1991 | creates an empty file | 01:25 |
| merlin1991 | but when I run it without piping it does do some output | 01:26 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, you did click the applet after running the command right? | 01:27 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 01:27 |
| merlin1991 | running dbus-monitor --session | grep -A 4 mediaplayer I get some output | 01:29 |
| merlin1991 | but when I run dbus-monitor --session | grep -A 4 mediaplayer > bin.txt | 01:29 |
| merlin1991 | the file is empty | 01:29 |
| merlin1991 | any xterm magic to fix that? | 01:33 |
| MohammadAG | no idea :P | 01:34 |
| quidam | merlin1991: what are you trying to do with grep there? | 01:43 |
| merlin1991 | grep stuff | 01:43 |
| merlin1991 | and it indeed greps stuff | 01:43 |
| merlin1991 | but when I try to pipe the output the resulting file is empty | 01:43 |
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| quidam | does the output get printed instead? | 01:44 |
| merlin1991 | no | 01:44 |
| merlin1991 | it just goes missing | 01:44 |
| quidam | try tee or named pipes for texting | 01:44 |
| quidam | *testing | 01:45 |
| merlin1991 | what does tee do again? | 01:46 |
| merlin1991 | nvm found it | 01:47 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: http://pastebin.com/S3SgGNi8 | 01:49 |
| merlin1991 | quidam: for some reason piping the dbus-out into a file and greping no that works just fine | 01:50 |
| merlin1991 | I can even pipe that grep output into other stuff | 01:50 |
| merlin1991 | jsut dbus-monitor | grep | x doesn't work | 01:50 |
| merlin1991 | strange | 01:50 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, that's not even requesting the applet | 01:51 |
| MohammadAG | are you sure you clicked the applet and it's not hanging? | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | YES | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | I clicked the applet | 01:51 |
| MohammadAG | do other applets work? | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | got the typical black screen of qt app starting | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | (rotated to portrait) | 01:52 |
| MohammadAG | umm | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | and then bam it's gone | 01:52 |
| MohammadAG | which applet is this? | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | stock one | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | I have no other one | 01:52 |
| MohammadAG | stock one doesn't use LaunchApplication | 01:52 |
| MohammadAG | so I'm stumped :S | 01:52 |
| merlin1991 | woot? | 01:52 |
| MohammadAG | stock one uses DBus activation, the black window shouldn't show | 01:53 |
| merlin1991 | click on the part where the album is | 01:53 |
| MohammadAG | i did | 01:53 |
| merlin1991 | strange | 01:53 |
| MohammadAG | it opens the mediaplayer then now playing window | 01:53 |
| merlin1991 | does that too | 01:53 |
| merlin1991 | when I'm in landscape | 01:53 |
| merlin1991 | in portrait it fails for unkown reasons | 01:54 |
| MohammadAG | you mean desktop is portrait? | 01:54 |
| MohammadAG | or do you turn the device before clicking it? | 01:54 |
| merlin1991 | turn the device before clicking it | 01:54 |
| merlin1991 | there is no portrait desktop :D | 01:55 |
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| MohammadAG | CTRL+SHIFT+FN+L = lies :P | 01:56 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, both situations work :S | 01:56 |
| MohammadAG | wait umm | 01:56 |
| MohammadAG | you mention the screen rotates? | 01:56 |
| merlin1991 | yes it rotates | 01:57 |
| MohammadAG | so the UI starts | 01:57 |
| merlin1991 | and then drops again | 01:57 |
| MohammadAG | so it's segfaulting | 01:57 |
| MohammadAG | will look into it (idk how though) tomorrow | 01:59 |
| MohammadAG | gotta sleep now, school tomorrow :P | 01:59 |
| MohammadAG | night | 02:00 |
| merlin1991 | night | 02:00 |
| MohammadAG | before I go | 02:00 |
| MohammadAG | is anyone getting signed into skype then getting Authentication failed? | 02:00 |
| merlin1991 | lemme try | 02:00 |
| MohammadAG | lol never knew there was a skype-installer package | 02:01 |
| merlin1991 | no works just fine | 02:02 |
| MohammadAG | xD it's empty | 02:02 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 02:04 |
| MohammadAG | /opt is full | 02:04 |
| MohammadAG | might explain it | 02:04 |
| merlin1991 | hrhr | 02:04 |
| MohammadAG | yep that was it, night again :) | 02:07 |
| merlin1991 | night :D | 02:07 |
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| the_lord | Hi! is there any way to activate portrait mode for the desktop? | 04:14 |
| the_lord | Sc0rpius, good work on the tree view in modest | 04:15 |
| Sc0rpius | :) | 04:17 |
| Sc0rpius | and there is a way to activate portrait mode for the desktop | 04:17 |
| Sc0rpius | but I forgot | 04:18 |
| the_lord | :P | 04:18 |
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| barzam | the new version of the CSSU is working fine (as usual), great work guys! | 11:11 |
| MohammadAG | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/camera-ui | 11:22 |
| MohammadAG | contributions to that are welcome | 11:22 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Should go under Community_SSU/Features/ ? | 11:24 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, can it be moved? | 11:26 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, I'm thinking of releasing a prealpha of the mediaplayer today | 11:28 |
| MohammadAG | also thinking of changing the PC Suite error message in HAM, it's kind of useless with the CSSU | 11:30 |
| * Jaffa nods | 11:31 | |
| * Jaffa was trying the media player again today | 11:31 | |
| Jaffa | Seemed to be a shuffle all songs bug in that when it finally updated the count of the number of songs in the playlist, it was only about 1,200 out of over 2000 tracks | 11:32 |
| Jaffa | Is there a timeout on the MAFW response or something? | 11:32 |
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| Damnshock | is that true??!?!?! | 11:44 |
| Damnshock | good lord, how I missed those settings in the camera | 11:44 |
| Damnshock | I hope this weekend I can test them | 11:44 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, no, the stock player iterates over all songs in a different way I think | 11:47 |
| MohammadAG | it gets the total number then goes over the first 100, second 100, etc | 11:47 |
| MohammadAG | (100 was a random value in my example) | 11:47 |
| mece | oh.. new cssu today it seems :) | 11:50 |
| barzam | screen rotation really messes up the camera though | 11:50 |
| MohammadAG | mece, yesterday | 11:51 |
| mece | ok, well it was after the daily update check :) | 11:52 |
| mece | how is shuffle implemented btw? | 11:52 |
| MohammadAG | mafw | 11:53 |
| mece | it has it's own shuffle method? | 11:53 |
| MohammadAG | yep | 11:53 |
| MohammadAG | but for shuffle all, I use qrand() to set the initial song | 11:54 |
| mece | a lot of media players seem to make a mess out of shuffling | 11:54 |
| mece | I found an interesting bug with the stock media player | 11:55 |
| MohammadAG | it uses the same route, I know | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG | if you go back, then forward, it doesn't actually shuffle | 11:56 |
| mece | well that's ok imo | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG | I might implement repeat and shuffle outside mafw later on tbh | 11:56 |
| mece | that's not the bug I was referring to | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG | I want a single repeat option | 11:56 |
| MohammadAG | or simply patch mafw and make it part of the CSSU | 11:56 |
| mece | I like that you can go forward and back in a shuffled list | 11:57 |
| mece | but anyway to the bug I was referring to | 11:57 |
| mece | when I select an artist that has a few albums and click shuffle all | 11:57 |
| mece | if the first song, alphabetically, is very large, that song will always be the first to play. | 11:57 |
| mece | I figure it's because it randoms from the list before more than one song is selected. | 11:58 |
| mece | seems it does add songs to list and pick one at random, but doesn't bother to wait for more than that first big song to load to the list, and since the list is only 1 song long, it picks that one. Every time. | 11:59 |
| MohammadAG | oh, is it the same in stock? | 11:59 |
| MohammadAG | cause that's how my mediaplayer behaves, I fixed it only for shuffle all (for now at least) | 12:00 |
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| mece | I was talking about stock | 12:00 |
| MohammadAG | then I'll fix it in my rewrite | 12:01 |
| mece | :) | 12:01 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, do we have a FAQ page? | 12:01 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Moved to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features/Camera_UI | 12:01 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: An installation FAQ at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ | 12:01 |
| MohammadAG | what about a troubleshooting FAQ? | 12:01 |
| mece | aw crap. I should not have taken a backup now. This is going nowhere! | 12:02 |
| MohammadAG | some users have problems with gconftool when it registers schemas, values are reset to 0 | 12:02 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: And the whole Features section needs a rewrite IMHO http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Features | 12:02 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: When does this happen? | 12:02 |
| MohammadAG | No idea | 12:02 |
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| MohammadAG | it seems to be user specific | 12:02 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: I'd probably put in in the Installation FAQ for now | 12:02 |
| MohammadAG | but it affects everything replaced with gconf | 12:02 |
| MohammadAG | (osso-applet-display was reset to 0 (or 1) for 2 users) | 12:03 |
| MohammadAG | they ended up with 1 button for brightness, but that was two months ago | 12:03 |
| MohammadAG | Another one would be http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=985946&postcount=2602 | 12:03 |
| MohammadAG | see the quoted post | 12:03 |
| MohammadAG | I'm adding a check to the status menu so if the value is 0 or -1 it defaults to 6 or something | 12:04 |
| rantom | If I may say something. I tried the RAW, as pressing R from keyboard, got nothing. How should this be visible? | 12:04 |
| MohammadAG | Shift + R | 12:05 |
| MohammadAG | R != r | 12:05 |
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| rantom | MohammadAG: Ah, alright, thanks, that solved it | 12:05 |
| rantom | PEBKAC, nothing else :) | 12:06 |
| MohammadAG | no worries :) | 12:07 |
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| mece | what the huh? have I got some bad packages or why does it want me to "use pc suite"? | 12:11 |
| Jaffa | mece: Check the "Problems" tab | 12:11 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Did you get to the bottom of the specific libqt4-test version dep, btw? I couldn't find the package (on my commute) which was having the explicit dependency | 12:12 |
| mece | heh libqt4-test | 12:12 |
| mece | jaffa, thanks | 12:12 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, python2.5-qt4 | 12:12 |
| mece | damne | 12:13 |
| MohammadAG | http://maemo.org/packages/view/python2.5-qt4 | 12:13 |
| mece | wtf | 12:13 |
| mece | that's a a problem | 12:13 |
| MohammadAG | Although the package description states that: | 12:13 |
| MohammadAG | You need to install this package explicitly ONLY if you wish to tinker with Python yourself. | 12:13 |
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| MohammadAG | I don't get why it doesn't depend on >= | 12:13 |
| mece | makes no sense. | 12:13 |
| mece | achipa's not around it seems | 12:14 |
| MohammadAG | #maemo | 12:14 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: So Khweeteur shouldn't be depending on python2.5-qt4, because it pulls in more than it needs to; and python2.5-qt4 should have a specific version dependency | 12:16 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, shouldn't* | 12:17 |
| mece | Khweeteur was the only application that was removed when I removed libqt4-test.. | 12:17 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, but Khertan says he can't promote the application if it depends on what it needs | 12:18 |
| MohammadAG | imo, that's an issues with the maemo.org interface | 12:18 |
| MohammadAG | See this for example http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras_free_armel/python2.5-qt4-core/4.7.5-maemo2/ | 12:18 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: What does he mean he can't promote it? Is there a bug report? If so, we can shout at X-Fade ;-) | 12:22 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, basically, if your app depends on something that has missing dependencies, you can't promote it | 12:23 |
| MohammadAG | libqt4-core is preinstalled on all devices | 12:24 |
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| mece | well the update went as planned :) | 12:30 |
| mece | the cssu update turned on my bluetooth O.o | 12:34 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: But isn't that handled by the "device repo" stuff that's in Packages? | 12:40 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, should, isn't I think | 12:41 |
| Jaffa | Grr. | 12:50 |
| thp | MohammadAG: posted a view preview of the latest cssu task switcher + open media player: http://youtu.be/Rta-BoG0eKE | 13:27 |
| MohammadAG | thp, hmm, why did the Falling song fail to play? | 13:29 |
| thp | MohammadAG: actually it did play (the radiolab podcast that you hear in the beginning) | 13:29 |
| thp | i guess there was just a short delay while loading the playlist | 13:29 |
| thp | also, i'm not using the latest version | 13:30 |
| MohammadAG | loading the playlist is something I should improve | 13:30 |
| MohammadAG | the stock player gets the size (lets say 400), makes 400 items and inserts them with empty strings, iterates over every 30 items, then edits the existing items | 13:30 |
| MohammadAG | in fact, I'm thinking of doing that, should improve speed... | 13:32 |
| thp | you can still optimize later - after the first release :) | 13:32 |
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| MohammadAG | true | 13:36 |
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| ArkanoiD- | oh shi~~~.. application manager says i should update community SSU via cable | 13:40 |
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| MohammadAG | check the problems tab | 13:40 |
| mece | curiously photoviewer has smaller thumbnails in portrait mode | 13:40 |
| mece | ArkanoiD-, libqt4-test perhaps? | 13:41 |
| ArkanoiD- | MohammadAG, nothing there! | 13:41 |
| thp | ArkanoiD-: when the upgrade confirmation shows up, touch the details button, then navigate to the problems tab | 13:42 |
| thp | ArkanoiD-: if it's qmlviewer, you can upgrade it manually via apt-get install and then do the rest of the upgrade via h-a-m | 13:42 |
| MohammadAG | thp, any ideas how I could calculate what to iterate over? | 13:43 |
| MohammadAG | assuming everyone has over 30 songs is bad | 13:43 |
| thp | MohammadAG: can you get the item count? | 13:43 |
| MohammadAG | yep | 13:44 |
| MohammadAG | int songCount = playlist->getSize(); | 13:44 |
| MohammadAG | now I just have to call http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/mafw/MafwPlaylist.html#mafw-playlist-get-items-md | 13:44 |
| MohammadAG | with from and to being +30 every time | 13:44 |
| thp | keep a "remaining" count and then grab min(remaining, 30) in every iteration | 13:46 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 13:47 |
| thp | or did i misunderstand that question? | 13:47 |
| ArkanoiD- | mece: yep. is apt-get upgrade safe in this situation or should i try different way? | 13:48 |
| mece | ArkanoiD-, you need to remove the package | 13:52 |
| mece | ArkanoiD-, khweeteur will go with it, if you have it | 13:53 |
| ArkanoiD- | mece: so apt-get upgrade is not recommended at this point? | 13:53 |
| ArkanoiD- | nope, must be something else | 13:53 |
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| ArkanoiD- | nfsu-installer | 13:54 |
| ArkanoiD- | had to go anyways | 13:54 |
| MohammadAG | thp, looking into it | 13:58 |
| MohammadAG | apt-get upgrade is safe, unsupported | 13:58 |
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| * ArkanoiD- wishes fam will replace stock slow application manager forever somedays | 14:00 | |
| thp | hmm conversations ui is closed, right? | 14:03 |
| MohammadAG | thp, yes, the conversations themselves are CSS | 14:07 |
| thp | didn't we have fixes in the bugtracker or somewhere? | 14:11 |
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| * Damnshock thinks you should only use "apt-get upgrade" when you are ready to deal with it | 14:14 | |
| rantom | thp: You mean this? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976 | 14:15 |
| povbot` | Bug 11976: viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) | 14:15 |
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| thp | rantom: exactly :) | 14:21 |
| thp | so bug 11976 depends on the "patch" utility becoming available in the cssu or working around that in some other fashion | 14:29 |
| povbot` | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/11976 viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) | 14:29 |
| MohammadAG | muhahaha | 14:34 |
| merlin1991 | random outbursts of your evil inner self? | 14:34 |
| MohammadAG | thp, get the nightly and see the performance boost | 14:35 |
| merlin1991 | morning btw :D | 14:35 |
| MohammadAG | morning merlin1991 lol | 14:35 |
| thp | MohammadAG: more like "daily" ;) | 14:35 |
| MohammadAG | can be hourly at times :P | 14:35 |
| Damnshock | performance boost? where? | 14:36 |
| thp | and all those vkb bits are also closed :/ only http://idoru.metadreams.net/~kimju/src/maemo/decode_vkb/ but that doesn't seem to have been updated since chinook times | 14:36 |
| thp | or even earlier | 14:37 |
| MohammadAG | Damnshock, mediaplayer, not CSSU related :P | 14:37 |
| merlin1991 | so how did you pimp the performance? | 14:37 |
| MohammadAG | btw, thp, keeping remaining count isn't necessary | 14:37 |
| MohammadAG | for (int x = 0; x < songCount; x = x+30) { | 14:37 |
| MohammadAG | if (x > songCount) { | 14:37 |
| MohammadAG | playlist->getItems(x, -1); | 14:37 |
| Damnshock | MohammadAG: that doesn't matter as long as you provide me with a binary to test ;) | 14:37 |
| MohammadAG | #maemo-foss | 14:38 |
| thp | MohammadAG: works well :) | 14:39 |
| thp | MohammadAG: so about that conversations css patch problem - should we ship the patch utility via the cssu? | 14:40 |
| MohammadAG | no reason not to | 14:40 |
| thp | hmm on the other hand.. as it's css.. can't we just rewrite the patch to be something that we simply append to that file? | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | if (x > songCount) { ?? | 14:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | shouldn't that be < | 14:44 |
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| MohammadAG | no | 14:48 |
| MohammadAG | actually | 14:48 |
| rantom | Btw. This probably has already been asked but Idk the answer. Is the CSSU going to provide a portrait-QWERTY-vkb keyboard to Maemo 5? MeeGo is open, afaIk, and thus that could be used for it? I'd personally recommend it | 14:49 |
| thp | rantom: with forced rotation, you already get it, but we would need to tweak the layout for it to become usable | 14:50 |
| rantom | thp: Yep, I know that. Thanks though. Forced rotation though causes also battery-drain, am I right? | 14:51 |
| rantom | Since its meant for testing, not active usage | 14:51 |
| Damnshock | guys, I just set the "tree view" option in the email app | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | umm, no, why would it cause battery drain? | 14:52 |
| Damnshock | and it just crashes | 14:52 |
| MohammadAG | Damnshock, update to 14.1 | 14:52 |
| rantom | Hmm, I thought it did | 14:52 |
| Damnshock | MohammadAG: on my way! | 14:53 |
| rantom | Well, thanks anyways. Reading tmo doesn't always seem to be the answer :p | 14:53 |
| MohammadAG | no keyboard planned | 14:53 |
| rantom | (Unless you want to have your brains tortured) | 14:53 |
| thp | rantom: i'm using it day-to-day. you can use the status area button to lock it into landscape when you don't use it | 14:53 |
| rantom | MohammadAG: Yeah, I thought so. Don't really care anymore, since MeeGo is in my plans (moving to it pretty much ASAP) | 14:54 |
| rantom | thp: Ok, thanks for the info | 14:54 |
| Damnshock | were the rootfs problems solved? I'm updating qt packages | 14:58 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 14:58 |
| merlin1991 | 14.1 fixes modest crashes and optifies qt packaages | 14:58 |
| rantom | Oh right, I meant to ask, about modest. Wasn't it supported for portrait? I can get it to rotate with CTRL+Shift+R but not automatically | 14:59 |
| Damnshock | thanks merlin1991 :) | 14:59 |
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| rantom | Sorry to ask for old implementations but can't find these anywhere, for now :( | 14:59 |
| Damnshock | rantom: modest works for me in portrait mode | 15:01 |
| Damnshock | no problem so far | 15:01 |
| rantom | Hmm. Something is wrong then in my end, since I can't get 5-9 desktops to appear either. | 15:01 |
| MohammadAG | no, modest doesn't have portrait mode yet | 15:02 |
| MohammadAG | (without forced rotation) | 15:02 |
| Damnshock | oh, sorry, i didn't understand you rantom | 15:03 |
| rantom | Damnshock: No problems | 15:03 |
| Damnshock | I'm using forced rotation here | 15:03 |
| rantom | MohammadAG: Thanks for verification | 15:03 |
| Jaffa | thp: Interesting idea about appending the CSS | 15:04 |
| thp | Jaffa: done and works :p will attach it to the bug report | 15:05 |
| thp | also have been thinking about using css @import which makes the changes to the files very small and shouldn't hurt in case the target file isn't found | 15:05 |
| thp | lines that are deleted are simply set back to their default values as defined in css | 15:05 |
| Jaffa | thp: sounds sensible, adding the @import in postinst means it can point to properly packaged files | 15:06 |
| thp | yep, and then we can simply upgrade the packaged files without having to deal with patching/unpatching/updating the affected files | 15:07 |
| * Jaffa nods. All manner of shiny. | 15:07 | |
| thp | it simply becomes a postinst thingie of "grep for that import statement, and if it doesn't exist, echo >> it in there" | 15:07 |
| Jaffa | Next up: the whitelist for "core" forced rotation without changing transitions.ini | 15:08 |
| thp | Jaffa: can think of a package name for the "customizations"? rtcom-messaging-ui-fixes or something/ | 15:10 |
| thp | don't really want to have "fixes" in the package name if we can avoid it | 15:10 |
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| Jaffa | rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait | 15:29 |
| Jaffa | Or rtcom-messaging-ui-portraitsupport (bit long) | 15:29 |
| thp | Jaffa: ok, i'll document that on the bug page. no time to implement it m yself today | 15:29 |
| thp | Jaffa: please check for any conceptual errors: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11976#c14 | 15:38 |
| povbot` | Bug 11976: viewing sms conversations in portrait mode without horizontal scrolling (patch) | 15:38 |
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| Jaffa | thp: ta. | 15:53 |
| Jaffa | thp: looks good | 15:53 |
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| ZogG | hmm | 16:04 |
| ZogG | again i have Cssu update with backup option and when i go for backup and go back to update window in ham i get back to backup and so on | 16:09 |
| ZogG | thp, hey | 16:09 |
| ZogG | thp, is there option to patch hildon to get option to open windows in background? | 16:09 |
| thp | ZogG: open windows in background? | 16:10 |
| ZogG | thp for example i'm in some tweeter app and i open browser, and instead of getting to microb i still stay in twitter app but microb is opening in background? | 16:12 |
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| normaltusker | hey all | 16:20 |
| normaltusker | did any of u notice an issue with modest not displaying correctly in modest or is it just me? | 16:21 |
| normaltusker | and if it is just me, can somebody please help me take a screenshot in the portrait mode keeping the keyboard open | 16:21 |
| thp | ZogG: hmm look in the matchbox2/hildon-desktop code. should be possible | 16:29 |
| ZogG | it was more like if you could look into it if you have time =) | 16:31 |
| ZogG | i'm just loser | 16:31 |
| thp | ZogG: nah, not really. | 16:32 |
| ZogG | so you don't have time =)) | 16:32 |
| thp | everyone has time. it's just the willingness to allocate time :p | 16:33 |
| thp | i wouldn't scratch my own itch, as i don't need that feature personally | 16:33 |
| thp | it also sounds like a "nice to have, but not really necessary" feature to me | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed, with MHD your 'original window' is just a ctrl-bs away | 16:35 |
| ZogG | MHD? | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | and probably I'd hater the cluttering of context menus with another item "open in background" | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | modified hildon desktop, or simply "the desktop that comes with cssu" | 16:37 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer no you don't have too. it would add option just for apps that need it by default | 16:39 |
| thp | ZogG: as DocScrutinizer said, switching back to the old window is very easy | 16:40 |
| thp | ZogG: also, instead of queueing up many windows to be read later, "processing" the pages one by one would also reduce the amount of concurrently running tasks | 16:41 |
| ZogG | i prefer to read whole reddit or tweet feed or rss first and than read news i choose | 16:41 |
| thp | ZogG: then ask your rss reader/twitter client authors to add an option to "queue up" urls and open them all at once at the end | 16:42 |
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| ZogG | thp, =) | 16:43 |
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| Lava_Croft | is microb always launching the bookmarks window when launching Web hardcoded? | 17:38 |
| Lava_Croft | or can i change that somewhere in some rather hard to locate config | 17:38 |
| Lava_Croft | last update to CSSU working rather well, MohammadAG | 17:42 |
| Lava_Croft | apart from already reported bugs | 17:42 |
| Lava_Croft | not fond with transitions.ini being overwritten tho | 17:42 |
| Lava_Croft | even tho i didnt find any new things in it | 17:42 |
| MohammadAG | it always gets overwritten | 17:42 |
| MohammadAG | whether there were changes to it or not | 17:43 |
| Lava_Croft | meh | 17:43 |
| Lava_Croft | safety precaution? | 17:43 |
| MohammadAG | well, that's how Nokia made it | 17:43 |
| MohammadAG | and kind of yea, what if someone broke their transitions | 17:43 |
| Lava_Croft | ill just believe the first option and act like i never heard about what you said about how nokia made it | 17:44 |
| Lava_Croft | that way it makes sense to me | 17:44 |
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| Damnshock | I usually don't like when an update overwrites my config | 17:45 |
| Lava_Croft | i dont like it, but i can understand why its done | 17:45 |
| Damnshock | in rpm theres a %config(noreplace) option for files | 17:45 |
| Lava_Croft | pacman renamed to config.pacnew | 17:45 |
| Damnshock | Lava_Croft: It's only valid if you don't expect that config file to be changed | 17:45 |
| Lava_Croft | iirc | 17:45 |
| Damnshock | imho | 17:46 |
| MohammadAG | dpkg asks if it should overwrite a config file actually, it's just missing on maemo | 17:46 |
| Damnshock | Lava_Croft: pacman installs the config file as name.pacnew | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | like i said | 17:47 |
| Damnshock | Lava_Croft: thought you said it changed the file | 17:47 |
| Damnshock | ;) | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | maybe it wasnt clear i meant changing the new config file name | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | instead of the old one | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | since i didnt state which config was changed:> | 17:47 |
| Damnshock | hehehe na, you were fine, my bad | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | anyhow, pacman is <3 | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | last night i installed Mint XFCE on my netbook | 17:48 |
| Lava_Croft | the current RC runs on debian base too, quite neato stuff | 17:48 |
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| ArkanoiD- | tree view in modest is nice, but i still do not care about "transport" part, so it could be auto expanded. also if there is no mailboxes under MfE (calendar sync only), why show it? | 19:14 |
| ArkanoiD- | and i still need 4 taps to get to inbox, it just looks prettier | 19:16 |
| Sc0rpius | MfE and Nokia Messaging are plugins of Modest, not part of Modest | 19:18 |
| Sc0rpius | so they are handled differently, that's why you see them like that | 19:19 |
| Sc0rpius | if you have only IMAP accounts for example, you would love the tree view mode :P | 19:19 |
| ArkanoiD- | :-( | 19:19 |
| Sc0rpius | MfE and Nokia Messaging plugins are closed by the way, not open source | 19:22 |
| Sc0rpius | in normal mode (not tree view), you still see MfE in the accounts window, right? (the first window you get when you open Modest) | 19:23 |
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| ArkanoiD- | Sc0rpius, yes | 19:34 |
| ArkanoiD- | but being closed does not mean we cannot ignore it? | 19:34 |
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| rantom | ArkanoiD-: From what _I_ know there might be legal issues, if you edit the closed code. And whether it can be edited is a completely different thing | 19:51 |
| Sc0rpius | well he doesn't mean to edit it | 19:52 |
| Sc0rpius | but to ignore it in the list | 19:52 |
| rantom | Ignoring closed parts? Sure, why not | 19:52 |
| Sc0rpius | but since it is not ignored in the accounts window... I dunno... | 19:52 |
| Damnshock | how would you edit a closed code? | 19:52 |
| Sc0rpius | hehe he means to ignore it *only* if there are no mailboxes | 19:52 |
| Damnshock | changing the binary itself? | 19:52 |
| rantom | Ah, alright | 19:53 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah you can always disassemble it and patch it with ARM instructions, but that's not legal of course | 19:53 |
| rantom | Damnshock: Well... Idk | 19:53 |
| Sc0rpius | that's a "crack" | 19:53 |
| Sc0rpius | we don't do that | 19:53 |
| Damnshock | ldk? | 19:54 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, http://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer/mediaplayer/commit/0410f02d8083b184fcd50c03bbbec5d69ef9c163 | 19:54 |
| Sc0rpius | idk = I don't know | 19:54 |
| rantom | Yeah. Good example would be the patch for Conversations portrait-view | 19:54 |
| rantom | But honestly, I'm just repeating what I've read, I don't know more than that | 19:54 |
| MohammadAG | idk = i don't know | 19:55 |
| rantom | Damnshock: http://www.urbandictionary.com/ FYI :p | 19:55 |
| Damnshock | rantom: I just thought it was LDK rather than idk | 19:56 |
| Damnshock | ;) | 19:56 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG shouldn't that be done by h-d? | 19:56 |
| rantom | :) | 19:57 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, it is done by h-d | 19:59 |
| MohammadAG | the signal should be sent by libhildon, but we're not using a GtkWindow | 19:59 |
| merlin1991 | can't we patch libhildon so it works for qt apps too? | 20:00 |
| MohammadAG | actually, we can patch it so there's a method to take an XID (and an X Display), that way you only need to call this->winId() and QX11Info::Display() | 20:02 |
| MohammadAG | but, no use, you'd need to push the libhildon to the autobuilder, so we need the CSSU in the builder | 20:03 |
| merlin1991 | ah shit | 20:03 |
| MohammadAG | anyway, it's a two line change from libhildon's code | 20:03 |
| merlin1991 | same problem as with qt :/ | 20:03 |
| merlin1991 | or cups :/ | 20:04 |
| ArkanoiD- | well, so how does the plugin work -- do you mean that it is not possible to know from modest if there are mailboxes or not? given the fact it is the modest that visualizes what's inside (after switching to tree view mailboxes inside "plugins" also got "tree" look) it seems unlikely | 20:04 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: how do I get the caller object in a qt slot? | 20:04 |
| ArkanoiD- | i even think it might be possible to "extract" default inbox "from the deep" and make it available on the top view :-) | 20:05 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: wouldn't it make sense to make "bool take" a parameter of takeScreenshot() | 20:09 |
| thp | just in case someone wants to reuse that code and also needs to remove the screenshot | 20:09 |
| thp | ..and that seems like something that many Qt developers targetting maemo 5 and requiring good integration might want to copy'n'paste :p | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | thp, well, that means I'd need to have another method to be called by QTimer :P | 20:11 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, why do you want to do that? | 20:12 |
| merlin1991 | got a stack of tcpservers listening on several ports | 20:12 |
| merlin1991 | calling in to the same slot when a new conneciton arrives | 20:12 |
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| MohammadAG | sec | 20:12 |
| merlin1991 | wich is one thing about qtcpserver I don't like | 20:13 |
| merlin1991 | why on earth can it only listen on 1 port? | 20:13 |
| MohammadAG | http://gitorious.org/mediabar/mediabar/blobs/master/src/widget.cpp#line143 | 20:13 |
| MohammadAG | why are the strings wrapped with QString() in there... | 20:13 |
| * MohammadAG slaps past coding skills | 20:13 | |
| merlin1991 | :D | 20:14 |
| merlin1991 | I wonder if I should cast here: QTcpServer *server = sender(); | 20:14 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 20:14 |
| merlin1991 | yep I have to, invalid conversion from QObject* to QTcpServer* | 20:14 |
| MohammadAG | shouldn't that be QTcpServer *server = QTcpServer::sender()? | 20:16 |
| merlin1991 | that's the slot | 20:16 |
| merlin1991 | where the qtcpserver calls into | 20:17 |
| merlin1991 | so it's actually QTcpServer *server = qobject_cast<QTcpServer>(sender()); | 20:17 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 20:17 |
| merlin1991 | I think i should have designed that part of the app diferently | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | it's not exactly oop atm :D | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | push stuff from several servers into 1 funciton by using signals xD | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | and casting the senders to what I need xD | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | tbh this looks sooooooooooooo bad: http://pastebin.com/9JB5vJ78 | 20:20 |
| merlin1991 | shit | 20:23 |
| merlin1991 | I just did hit the borders of my model | 20:23 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, shouldn't one server work for all? | 20:32 |
| merlin1991 | you need one server for each port afaik | 20:32 |
| MohammadAG | lol that sounds silly | 20:33 |
| MohammadAG | and memory wasting | 20:33 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 20:33 |
| MohammadAG | oh well | 20:33 |
| * MohammadAG commits mediaplayer changes and prepares to refactor | 20:33 | |
| merlin1991 | hm I wonder if you can do something like "delete this" | 20:34 |
| Lava_Croft | new build, MohammadAG ? | 20:36 |
| MohammadAG | Lava_Croft, nah, changing a lot of code | 20:38 |
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| Lava_Croft | ok | 20:46 |
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| MohammadAG | http://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer/mediaplayer/commit/92d2a90e9762434186ab54c97a425e0b4c685640 Lava_Croft | 22:05 |
| MohammadAG | let's hope that doesn't break shit, merlin1991, feel like testing? :P | 22:05 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: always ;) | 22:06 |
| merlin1991 | just testing trough my qt crap atm though | 22:06 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: is it upped? | 22:11 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, yes | 22:15 |
| MohammadAG | a mer-like approach for the icon http://i51.tinypic.com/2lwfev.jpg :P | 22:20 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: updating and testing now | 22:22 |
| merlin1991 | anything specific I should test? | 22:22 |
| MohammadAG | if everything works | 22:23 |
| MohammadAG | also the hanging on now playing button pressed shouldn't happen now | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | I'll test it :D | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | hm starting a new album started on the 2nd title | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | oops | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | I did click the 2nd one :P | 22:25 |
| MohammadAG | damn you | 22:25 |
| MohammadAG | I started looking at the commit | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | seems to work | 22:27 |
| merlin1991 | and starting it portrait from the applet works now | 22:28 |
| MohammadAG | merlin1991, add like 600 songs to now playing | 22:30 |
| MohammadAG | fetching the playlist should now be fast | 22:30 |
| * MohammadAG is considering caching that list | 22:30 | |
| merlin1991 | hehe I'll pwn it | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | nah I totally pwnd it | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | it's DEAD | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | added 1195 songs | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | ui was dead | 22:31 |
| MohammadAG | I think I'm ready for the 0.1 | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | yeah ui is fail | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | in all sonsgs lists I have title | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | in now playing not | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | and going back is like impossible | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | I get the mediaplayers is not reacting, wanna killall question | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | I cant eve get to the list from now playing by pressing the album art | 22:33 |
| MohammadAG | <merlin1991> added 1195 songs | 22:33 |
| MohammadAG | how? | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | all songs | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | click first one | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | I hvae 1195 on my device xD | 22:34 |
| MohammadAG | don't kill it btw | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | why? | 22:34 |
| MohammadAG | oh so you clicked shuffle all? | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | no | 22:35 |
| MohammadAG | adding songs is done in the same thread | 22:35 |
| merlin1991 | I clicked the first title in all titles | 22:35 |
| MohammadAG | or clicked a song, same thing | 22:35 |
| merlin1991 | yeah but now that all songs are added the now plaing ui is just useless | 22:35 |
| merlin1991 | nothing works | 22:35 |
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| MohammadAG | yeah, same thread | 22:36 |
| MohammadAG | think I need to move it to another thread | 22:36 |
| mase76 | hi! | 22:36 |
| mase76 | MohammadAG: i did some more tests with the mediaplayer. it does not try to go online, for example when opening an internet radio stream. and gpodder cannot play an epidode with it. when trying, nothing happens. | 22:38 |
| MohammadAG | hey mase76 | 22:38 |
| MohammadAG | mase76, mime_open isn't implemented | 22:39 |
| MohammadAG | right now, it just activates the window | 22:39 |
| MohammadAG | as for going online, isn't there a Qt method for that | 22:39 |
| mase76 | i think so. | 22:40 |
| mase76 | avrcp is perfect. but the player has to be opened. maybe the developer of the mp widget can add support for avrcp. just a check if the player is open. if not the widget handles the event. | 22:42 |
| MohammadAG | Qt Mobility... | 22:43 |
| mase76 | btw: is there any advantage programming with qml instead if native qt? | 22:44 |
| MohammadAG | faster coding of good looking UIs | 22:46 |
| MohammadAG | easy to learn for web devs | 22:46 |
| mase76 | but no better performance? | 22:47 |
| MohammadAG | cons: interpreted language, high memory usage | 22:47 |
| mase76 | that is what i wanted to know. | 22:47 |
| MohammadAG | can't say better, no | 22:47 |
| mase76 | i programmed qt some time ago. no reason to use qml then. | 22:48 |
| mase76 | and what environment? qt-creator, only an editor, or anything else. i only used an editor like geany before. | 22:50 |
| mase76 | and before that i used kdevelop.but i am with gnome now. | 22:51 |
| MohammadAG | quick performance benchmark: | 22:52 |
| MohammadAG | 0.0 CPU usage while the screen's locked | 22:52 |
| MohammadAG | 0.5 CPU usage when unlocked and slider not visible | 22:52 |
| MohammadAG | 2.5 CPU usage when the progress bar slider is updating | 22:52 |
| MohammadAG | RAM usage: | 22:54 |
| MohammadAG | 6.9MBs on now playing window with playlist fetched | 22:54 |
| MohammadAG | shoots to 11.9MBs with the QML view | 22:54 |
| mase76 | today i tried qt-creator with madde. not very friendly. but i can run and debug directly on the device. | 22:55 |
| MohammadAG | CPU usage goes to 20% on the transition from right -> left / left -> right | 22:55 |
| MohammadAG | this is why I suggested this feature with the charger + tv-out :P | 22:55 |
| MohammadAG | not friendly? | 22:55 |
| mase76 | my meaning. but i tested only about 20 minutes. | 22:56 |
| mase76 | do u use it? | 22:56 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 22:57 |
| MohammadAG | not for packaging, but for editing sources it's epic | 22:58 |
| mase76 | do you think, the player programmed with qt would take more resources? | 22:58 |
| MohammadAG | it is in Qt | 22:58 |
| MohammadAG | RAM usage is a bit higher | 22:59 |
| MohammadAG | 3.9 vs 6.9 | 22:59 |
| mase76 | qt? i thought it is qml. | 22:59 |
| MohammadAG | no | 22:59 |
| MohammadAG | only the entertainment view is QML | 22:59 |
| MohammadAG | the rest is C++/Qt | 23:00 |
| mase76 | and gtk? will it disappear from the device over the time? i ask, because many applications are rewritten with qt or qml. | 23:00 |
| MohammadAG | Gtk can't disappear, hildon uses Gtk and Qt's theming engine uses hildon | 23:01 |
| mase76 | i am not sure which way to go. i have some qt experience. i wanted to learn gtk+ now, better gtk+mm for c++. but now i think, qt is the better choice for the n900, isn't it? | 23:05 |
| MohammadAG | imo, yeah, Qt's the way to go | 23:17 |
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| mase76 | thanks for the info. | 23:22 |
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