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| NightShift79 | Hi all :) | 00:14 |
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| freemangordon | MohammadAG: hmm, even after installing .deb still unable to reproduce what you report. Seems like your build is broken somehow. Give me an idea where to put my .deb to verify that. TMO thread? | 00:15 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, my build can't be broken if you can't reproduce it | 00:16 |
| MohammadAG | it's the same build | 00:16 |
| MohammadAG | hey NightShift79 | 00:16 |
| freemangordon | ok, no idea then | 00:16 |
| MohammadAG | ... | 00:17 |
| freemangordon | works here as it should | 00:17 |
| MohammadAG | tested on two devices and merlin1991's, doesn't work as it should :P | 00:17 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but it is your .deb on both devices ;P | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but it is your .deb on both devices :P | 00:18 |
| MohammadAG | you're obviously missing the part where you have to leave the window to task nav then to home | 00:18 |
| MohammadAG | well, it's your patch | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | yeah, and lines 1651-1653 in hd-render-manager.c are doing unfocusing. ok, i will try your .deb then | 00:23 |
| freemangordon | it is your .deb :P . After installing it I see what you have described. Now to find the reason. Ideas. Could you please attach source package so I can make diif with mine | 00:27 |
| MohammadAG | pushed all changes to gitorious | 00:28 |
| MohammadAG | I'll rebuild again, though I don't see how it matters | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | asking? hope so, at least git-gui said that everything is commited and pushed. no idea. did you clone repository again or apply patch on your working copy? | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | anyway, good news is that problem seems to be with commt | 00:31 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, hmm, you're right, sorry | 00:43 |
| freemangordon | ? | 00:43 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, it was the deb | 00:45 |
| MohammadAG | cleaning up source then recompiling fixed it | 00:45 |
| freemangordon | I knew it :D | 00:45 |
| MohammadAG | but when going from home to task nav, it doesn't go into portrait mode for some reason | 00:45 |
| MohammadAG | is that intended? | 00:45 |
| freemangordon | lets say yes, it is waiting for portraited home ;) | 00:46 |
| freemangordon | I do not see reason to write some hackery, which will be used only for a while, and as this behaviour does not break (much) user experience I would prefer to leave it as it is. | 00:48 |
| merlin1991 | btw MohammadAG how do I get back to proper h-d? | 00:49 |
| merlin1991 | apt-get install --reinstall hildon-desktop? | 00:50 |
| NightShift79 | yes | 00:50 |
| freemangordon | better use new .deb qs soon as soon as MohammadAG uploads it :D | 00:50 |
| freemangordon | damn am i sleepy | 00:50 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 00:51 |
| NightShift79 | same here | 00:51 |
| MohammadAG | or use the new one here http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/hildon-desktop_2.2.142-11_armel.deb | 00:51 |
| NightShift79 | ty | 00:52 |
| NightShift79 | I'll test things out and give feedback 2morrow. | 00:52 |
| NightShift79 | I'llneed to sleep | 00:53 |
| merlin1991 | I'll go back to current cssu | 00:53 |
| MohammadAG | http://i56.tinypic.com/2iqobcx.jpg | 00:53 |
| NightShift79 | too bad I'll need to get upat 5h | 00:53 |
| BCMM | MohammadAG: shiny! | 00:53 |
| freemangordon | yeah, this one is working | 00:54 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG how did you do ity? | 00:54 |
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| freemangordon | btw, glad to see a young metallica fan | 00:54 |
| freemangordon | (rock) | 00:54 |
| BCMM | also, old Metallica. splendid! | 00:54 |
| MohammadAG | :D | 00:54 |
| freemangordon | <ZogG>: download it from the link above | 00:55 |
| BCMM | MohammadAG: is that what XChat looks like when forced to be portrait, or is that what landscape windows look like in portrait task-switcher? | 00:55 |
| ZogG | i think second | 00:55 |
| MohammadAG | forced portrait | 00:55 |
| BCMM | can it currently handle landscape windows? | 00:56 |
| MohammadAG | yeah, it'll just show them as they are | 00:56 |
| MohammadAG | but with a wider frame | 00:56 |
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| BCMM | MohammadAG: so is that a whole new layout mode? | 00:56 |
| BCMM | or the two-column one at a different width? | 00:56 |
| freemangordon | it is the same as in landscape | 00:57 |
| MohammadAG | I would've preferred a single window, but oh well :) | 00:57 |
| BCMM | MohammadAG: single window? | 00:58 |
| freemangordon | ok, use setting in transitions.ini | 00:58 |
| BCMM | oh, single column? | 00:58 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 00:58 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, but that changes landscape too, I prefer default there | 00:58 |
| MohammadAG | freemangordon, mind if I post a screenshot on tmo? | 00:58 |
| freemangordon | just wonder where you will find ctrl-backspace to switch | 00:58 |
| freemangordon | of course no :D | 00:59 |
| BCMM | in any case, it's very cool. portrait task switching will make portrait web-browsing so much nicer | 00:59 |
| ZogG | BCMM i hate that you portait microb is in fullscreen only | 01:00 |
| ZogG | no hildon ,enu and you can't close pages | 01:00 |
| BCMM | yeah, that sucks | 01:00 |
| freemangordon | disable microb auto-rotate and you will be fine | 01:00 |
| BCMM | but i use the camera button for getting to the task manager anyway | 01:00 |
| ZogG | and as i read somewhere no more microb in meego | 01:00 |
| ZogG | =( | 01:00 |
| ZogG | it would be firefox-qt | 01:00 |
| ZogG | and microb is waaay better | 01:01 |
| MohammadAG | meego will use webkit instead of gecko | 01:01 |
| ZogG | microb one of the best | 01:01 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG, microb is not on webkit | 01:01 |
| ZogG | ?? | 01:01 |
| ZogG | btw why firefox would have USE flag iphone? | 01:02 |
| MohammadAG | well, yes, that's why it's not using microb :P | 01:02 |
| BCMM | ZogG: you're talking Gentoo, right? | 01:03 |
| ZogG | нуфз | 01:03 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG webkit is nice but microb is really user frendly i like how it works except lack of tabs | 01:03 |
| MohammadAG | webkit sucks | 01:04 |
| ZogG | , | 01:04 |
| ZogG | ? | 01:04 |
| BCMM | MohammadAG: in what respect? | 01:04 |
| ZogG | ш ерштл цуилше шы тшсу | 01:04 |
| ZogG | damn | 01:04 |
| ZogG | 3 langs | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | it's what Android/iOS/Symbian uses | 01:04 |
| ZogG | BCMM, yep i was talking about gentoo before | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | use* | 01:04 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG, i think webkit is nice | 01:04 |
| BCMM | ZogG: i don't see an iphone use flag... | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | BCMM, I think I'm being biased based on my use of it on symbian | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | and iOS can't render some pages correctly tbh | 01:05 |
| BCMM | imho, it's pretty nice | 01:05 |
| MohammadAG | s/iOS/Safari | 01:05 |
| BCMM | light, fast, does stuff right | 01:05 |
| BCMM | oh, safari sucks | 01:05 |
| BCMM | my experience testing HTML on them a while ago | 01:05 |
| BCMM | i.e. just ignores stuff | 01:05 |
| ZogG | BCMM when did you sync? | 01:05 |
| BCMM | firefox occasionally misunderstands stuff | 01:05 |
| ZogG | BCMM maybe it's when you sync phone and firefox | 01:06 |
| ZogG | that's the use flag | 01:06 |
| BCMM | (probably where i was making mistakes, but webkit seemed to be more graceful about that) | 01:06 |
| BCMM | webkit was good, but comparing konqueror and safari... | 01:06 |
| BCMM | konqueror rendered stuff perfectly, very similar to firefox. safari, just like konqueror but with all the sizes screwed up somehow | 01:07 |
| BCMM | ZogG: makes sense i guess, but why wouldn't that be an extension? | 01:07 |
| BCMM | ZogG: equery uses firefox | 01:07 |
| ZogG | BCMM, i think it should use internet_free_device rendering | 01:08 |
| ZogG | BCMM i still din't install it, so have uses from last one, new flag | 01:08 |
| BCMM | (that's a gentoo command, not an english statement) | 01:08 |
| ZogG | BCMM, i knowi t and did it ^. and btw it's easier equery u firefox | 01:08 |
| freemangordon | <MohammadAG>: re different column modes in portrait and landscape - if I have free time i will do it before the end of the week, shouldn't be that hard. One more thing to think about - those yellow notifications look very ugly in portrait. reason is that it is an image which si scaled. | 01:14 |
| freemangordon | *is | 01:14 |
| freemangordon | so, one solution is different image for portrait, but this will break all existing themes. | 01:15 |
| lcuk | freemangordon, screenshots! | 01:15 |
| freemangordon | of what | 01:15 |
| lcuk | portrait goodness | 01:15 |
| BCMM | couldn't you fall back to solid colour or some sort of gradiant, based on the theme? | 01:16 |
| freemangordon | http://i56.tinypic.com/2iqobcx.jpg | 01:16 |
| BCMM | (sorry if that's confused) | 01:16 |
| ZogG | BCMM btw why would FF as well have wifi use flag? =) | 01:16 |
| BCMM | ZogG: it could be the location API thing | 01:16 |
| lcuk | freemangordon, how do landscape only apps look in there | 01:16 |
| BCMM | ZogG: there's a way for your browser to tell a website your location (yes, it asks you first) | 01:16 |
| BCMM | for stuff like putting your position on google maps | 01:16 |
| lcuk | or vice versa, when in landscape by default, how do portrait apps look | 01:17 |
| BCMM | one way of doing it is from google's database of where various wireless networks are | 01:17 |
| freemangordon | <BCMM>: yeah, possible, still gathering ideas :D | 01:17 |
| ZogG | BCMM, stop it man, i know what it is | 01:17 |
| BCMM | oh, sorry | 01:17 |
| BCMM | anyway, maybe that's what the wifi flag does | 01:17 |
| freemangordon | <lcuk>: they rotate while in task manager ;) | 01:17 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: quassel-irc > xchat ;) | 01:18 |
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| lcuk | freemangordon, sure, I am wondering how that looks | 01:18 |
| freemangordon | <merlin1991>: ? did not understand that | 01:18 |
| merlin1991 | quassel-irc is anothe client | 01:19 |
| ZogG | freemangordon i can't instakll it, incompatible hildon package | 01:19 |
| merlin1991 | a distributed one | 01:19 |
| lcuk | reason why I ask: this screenshot shows a mostly landscape configuration http://liqbase.net/20110323_002.jpg but the calculator is a portrait mode app | 01:19 |
| freemangordon | and... this is maemo? | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | btw lcuk why does your calendar discriminate against my birthday? :( | 01:20 |
| ZogG | lcuk what is this thing? | 01:20 |
| lcuk | not important, I am wondering how such a thing will look in maemo | 01:20 |
| freemangordon | it will rotate by now | 01:20 |
| lcuk | merlin1991, mar 27? | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | exactly :D | 01:20 |
| lcuk | heh errr | 01:20 |
| lcuk | freemangordon, so a specifically landscape app will continue to look sideways if viewed on the portrait screenshot you showed? | 01:21 |
| freemangordon | no, they will rotate in portrait | 01:21 |
| lcuk | ok, so the thumbnails in your screenshot are lengthened and look portraity still | 01:22 |
| lcuk | will the rotated app maintain its aspect ratio? | 01:22 |
| BCMM | ZogG: was describing because i can't remember what it's called, not to imply you didn't know | 01:22 |
| lcuk | btw ZogG freemangordon - my screenshot is the liqbase playground, helpful to describe and test many ideas | 01:22 |
| freemangordon | ok, all works with force-rotation on, so no app remains landscape when phone is rotated to portrait | 01:23 |
| freemangordon | ye, i was thinking wor something similar, but by now it is not implemented | 01:23 |
| freemangordon | *for | 01:23 |
| freemangordon | leaving guys, have to sleep, bye | 01:24 |
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| ZogG | MohammadAG, lol, portrait task switcher looks funny with program not in portrait | 01:28 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG, I have plans for that | 01:29 |
| ZogG | you saw it too? | 01:30 |
| MohammadAG | it happens if forced rotation is off | 01:32 |
| ZogG | http://twitpic.com/4erdgv/full | 01:34 |
| ZogG | though calc works in portrait | 01:34 |
| BCMM | hmm | 01:42 |
| BCMM | it's fine between apps that only do portrait, but switching between microb windows, they always pop to landscape and back when you select them | 01:43 |
| BCMM | ah | 01:44 |
| BCMM | doesn't do that if you rotate to landscape then back while in the task manager | 01:45 |
| BCMM | huh, i take that back as based on an insufficiently large sample | 01:46 |
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| ZogG | nokia-pure fonts look great | 01:58 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 09:57 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: ping over some merge requests (e.g. http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/community-ssu-enabler/merge_requests/4) | 09:57 |
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| Sc0rpius | pong everybody | 14:50 |
| Sc0rpius | like 2 days later :( | 14:50 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, if the merge request is trivial and been passed review, shouldn't a few more committers be added | 14:52 |
| lcuk | so that patches can be merged | 14:53 |
| lcuk | same principle thinking as your mwkn editors I guess ;) | 14:53 |
| Sc0rpius | what's the merge about? | 14:54 |
| lcuk | new icon | 14:55 |
| Sc0rpius | oh nice | 14:57 |
| Jaffa | Yes, I think MohammadAG might want to consider more people being able to commit (if nothing else, to avoid bus factor) | 15:09 |
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| MohammadAG | Jaffa, actually merged it, just forgot to close it | 15:59 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Ah, cool | 16:50 |
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| MohammadAG | mase76, should I just compile gtk with cups enabled and push that? | 20:11 |
| MohammadAG | or do other patches need to be applied | 20:11 |
| mase76 | nothing to be applied. you only have to rebuild with libcups2-dev installed. it should be autodetected. | 20:12 |
| MohammadAG | so basically, just add that as a build dependency, nothing else? | 20:13 |
| MohammadAG | even debian/rules? | 20:13 |
| mase76 | nothing else. | 20:17 |
| mase76 | you only have to remove the disable-printing options in leafpad, abiword, etc. | 20:18 |
| mase76 | but the maintainers of that programs should do that. | 20:19 |
| mase76 | i don't know, if you want to enable printing in some default programs. | 20:19 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG, ping | 20:21 |
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| NightShift79 | Hi folks. | 22:04 |
| NightShift79 | I have testet ne latest hildon-desktop version the whole day. | 22:04 |
| NightShift79 | and i can't complain. it's working good. | 22:05 |
| NightShift79 | but i wonder if it's possible to show only 2 apps in a row on portrait task manager. | 22:05 |
| NightShift79 | for the moment I switched to 1 row task manager, which turned out good for the portrait mode. | 22:06 |
| NightShift79 | any chance to get an actual build of the new modest version I should/could test? | 22:07 |
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| merlin1991 | Jaffa: did you see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=978684&postcount=2297 ? | 22:31 |
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| ZogG | MohammadAG, ping | 22:57 |
| MohammadAG | pong | 22:57 |
| ZogG | do you have this daemon that you push focus on camera button and it brings you task manager? | 22:58 |
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| MohammadAG | shortcutd, what about it | 23:01 |
| ZogG | try this when you already in task manager in portrait mode | 23:02 |
| ZogG | it goes to landskape =) | 23:02 |
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| ZogG | Mohammad- timeouts | 23:07 |
| ZogG | bezeq? | 23:07 |
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| ZogG | meh | 23:12 |
| ZogG | no answer | 23:12 |
| ZogG | night | 23:12 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG, no, bouncer | 23:12 |
| MohammadAG | and I noticed it right now | 23:12 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG דם? | 23:13 |
| ZogG | so? | 23:13 |
| MohammadAG | I'll ping freemangordon about it | 23:14 |
| BCMM | in my font, it looks like Hebrew has a "new document" icon in it's alphabet | 23:15 |
| BCMM | s/'// | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 23:15 |
| ZogG | BCMM, oh man searched for you | 23:17 |
| ZogG | wanted to say you how cool i am | 23:17 |
| ZogG | talked to drobbins =) | 23:17 |
| BCMM | "No manual entry for searched" | 23:17 |
| BCMM | the funtoo dude? | 23:17 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 23:18 |
| ZogG | he is gentoo dude first of all | 23:18 |
| ZogG | and than funtoo | 23:18 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=978684&postcount=2297 | 23:18 |
| BCMM | ZogG: how come? | 23:18 |
| ZogG | BCMM he developed and created gentoo first of all | 23:19 |
| BCMM | ah, hadn't realised he was the sole founder of gentoo | 23:19 |
| BCMM | knew he was founder though | 23:19 |
| BCMM | ZogG: anyway, talked to him why? | 23:20 |
| ZogG | gentoo is his child as far as i know | 23:20 |
| ZogG | BCMM, was sticking around on #funtoo and saw him entering there | 23:20 |
| ZogG | asked about my proxy problem i can't solve | 23:20 |
| BCMM | i'm going to switch | 23:20 |
| BCMM | when kdepim 4.6 comes out | 23:21 |
| BCMM | i'll be doing a lot of rebuilding then anyway | 23:21 |
| ZogG | switch to funtoo? | 23:21 |
| BCMM | so i'm going to do a proper reinstall and move to 64-bit and funtoo while i'm at it | 23:21 |
| BCMM | perhaps i should say whenever kdepim next manages a release | 23:21 |
| ZogG | BCMM 1) what is kdepim? | 23:23 |
| ZogG | 2) why funtoo? | 23:23 |
| ZogG | i moved to 64 without reinstall bug it was ugly | 23:23 |
| ZogG | though funtoo was fresh | 23:24 |
| ZogG | and you should go straight to exherbo than =) | 23:24 |
| BCMM | ZogG: personal information management - kmail, korganizer, etc. | 23:24 |
| BCMM | (mail, calenders, address books, that sorta thing. for kde.) | 23:24 |
| BCMM | i used paludis on gentoo for a bit | 23:25 |
| BCMM | they seemed kinda elitist | 23:25 |
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| BCMM | answered everything by suggesting you haven't read the docs, when the docs were nonexistent | 23:25 |
| ZogG | BCMM, heard paludis is nice and now is under heavy development and improvments , but WHY? i totally love portage | 23:26 |
| BCMM | tbh, i don't feel at all like it's for the right reasons | 23:26 |
| ZogG | <BCMM> answered everything by suggesting you haven't read the docs, when the docs were nonexistent ? | 23:26 |
| ZogG | BCMM you mean paludis for the right reason in way it's useless and not right? or in way of gentoo faling apart? | 23:26 |
| BCMM | i mean, they make it sound like their goal is "like portage, but we'll do it right because we aren't stupid like them" | 23:27 |
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| BCMM | the exherbo website has got a bit less rude now | 23:28 |
| ZogG | was it rude? =) | 23:28 |
| ZogG | i just heard about it several days ago | 23:28 |
| ZogG | BCMM, but wrse thing is calculate and sabayon | 23:28 |
| ZogG | never got it | 23:28 |
| ZogG | why would you do userfriendly OS on gentoo and use pkg as well | 23:29 |
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| BCMM | either i'm more radiopaque than i thought, or freenode's in a funny mode | 23:36 |
| BCMM | but i stood up, and my connection dropped | 23:36 |
| BCMM | ^mood | 23:36 |
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