IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2011-03-24

thpmerlin1991: what's the project you're working on?00:00
merlin1991getting a windows port of this: http://gitorious.org/et-map-editor running00:01
merlin1991so far I've fixed all the opengl related problems, but the application goes to an infinite loop at some point when loading the data :D00:01
merlin1991and the qt-sdk inbuilt debugger is pita when you're used to java/c# debugging :D00:02
thpmerlin1991: feel free to add yourself to Future Workshop if you want + your project (just updated the wiki page)00:04
merlin1991hm need a wiki user :D00:06
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macmaNwhatsup all15:04
macmaNhow big of a hack would it be to just get finger sized window titles for multitasker view15:04
macmaNand none of the screenshot nonsense15:04
macmaNis it doable just by configuration or does it take code15:05
MohammadAGscreenshot?15:26
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freemangordonHi guys, I am on the way to finish portrait mode task switcher, just want to check if anyone else is working on it (yeah, i know, a little bit late...)15:55
MohammadAGnope, no one's working on it :D16:03
MohammadAGsomeone made a patch with XRandr months ago (before the CSSU), it didn't merge well so I didn't test it16:04
MohammadAGfreemangordon, ETA though? maybe it can make it in the next update16:05
freemangordonA week or so, depends on my free time :D . Actually what is still not implemented is d-bus listening, which should be copy-paste from apllication launcher16:07
freemangordon]BTW do you know how am I supposed to file a bug (or contact developer) against forced rotation(or zooming, not sure) when it appears only when applied to tasknav (which still does not have portrait mode :D)?16:10
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MohammadAGm not sure what you mean16:11
MohammadAGforcedrotation is not supported anyway (bugs are invalid)16:11
freemangordonYeah, I know it is not supported, but if zoom kicks in when tasknav is force-rotated am I supposed to search and fix the bug myself, or the one who made the patch should look after it16:13
MohammadAGwhat do you mean by task nav exactly?16:14
freemangordonFromtask switcher16:14
MohammadAGsince atm, the task navigator doesn't rotate, only the menu does16:14
freemangordonIt rotates on my n900 :)))16:14
MohammadAGfrom task switcher to menu?16:14
freemangordonno, from landscape to portrait mode16:15
freemangordonwant screenshots?16:16
MohammadAGerr, what?16:16
MohammadAGyes16:16
freemangordonCan I attach them here?16:17
freemangordonmaybe not16:17
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MohammadAGno16:20
freemangordonHow do you prefer t have hose screensots, PM on TMO does not allow me to attach files too, lets think...16:21
freemangordongmail?16:22
MohammadAGtinypic.com?16:23
thpimageshack16:26
thpthere are lots of options :)16:26
freemangordonhttp://tinypic.com/r/oh7be1/716:27
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MohammadAGwould be better if you used thp's single item per view switcher in portrait mode16:28
MohammadAGbut a step forward nontheless :)16:28
freemangordonhttp://tinypic.com/r/s4oto4/716:28
freemangordonIt shoul be supported too ;)16:28
freemangordonIt is just that I prefer stock nokia switcher16:29
MohammadAGno, I mean switch from whatever view to one window16:29
MohammadAGsquashing 4 windows doesn't look good :P16:29
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freemangordonHmm, did not get that, but anyway, all functionality which exists in landscape works in portrait too16:33
MohammadAGI mean, switch to one or two windows per row, instead of 4 in portrait mode16:33
freemangordonAnd four-windows-in-a-row looks pretty good when you hold n900 (for me at least)16:33
freemangordonOK, it is my n900 not set up in that way16:34
freemangordonbut it is supported, I work on code from ssu git16:34
MohammadAGI meant you should make it automatic, nevermind anyway16:34
MohammadAGyes, I got that part, you're missing my point :)16:35
freemangordonsure16:35
freemangordonaaa, got it16:35
freemangordonno, it is better t have option to select type of view in portrait in the same way as in landscape16:36
MohammadAGwell, that's nice too16:36
MohammadAGbut it's better than having the same layout both in landscape and portrait16:36
freemangordonbut those are cosmetics once functionality is here16:37
* MohammadAG nods16:37
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thpnice! portrait mode task switcher. epic win16:51
merlin1991so much win in this channel ;)16:56
MohammadAGas requested, and I really wanted this tbh, Installed schema `/schemas/apps/osso/hildon-desktop/menu_edit_disabled' for locale `C'16:57
MohammadAGsetting that to true disables the menu editor16:57
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freemangordongood, n900 irc plugin seems to work17:08
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MohammadAGI use XChat, having IRC in the conversations app might prove annoying17:15
JaffaMohammadAG: Woohoo.17:16
MohammadAGI wonder why this is segfaulting17:21
MohammadAG  if (gdk_screen_get_width(gdk_display_get_default_screen(gdk_display_get_default())) < 800)17:21
MohammadAG    gtk_icon_view_set_columns (GTK_ICON_VIEW (priv->icon_view), 3);17:21
MohammadAG  else17:21
MohammadAG    gtk_icon_view_set_columns (GTK_ICON_VIEW (priv->icon_view), 5);17:21
MohammadAGthp, ever figured out how to debug hildon-desktop? the -dbg package has a .launch file17:23
MohammadAGoh it's not that that's segfaulting, nevermind :)17:29
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MohammadAGoh yay, the CSSU isn't stable apparently18:38
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merlin1991hm?18:40
MohammadAGhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=974779&postcount=222218:41
merlin1991lmao18:44
merlin1991yay for free speech and public forums :D18:44
MohammadAGthinking of pushing a Qt fixes to the CSSU, thoughts?18:47
MohammadAGno, there's no ABI break18:48
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JaffaMohammadAG: Seems sensible :-)18:57
BCMMMohammadAG: "gets stuck for halfway of the screen for a while" - what is this I don't even.18:58
BCMMthough talking of rotation, i do still have a slightly odd issue with some portrait applications19:00
BCMMespecially, the phone app being landscape when i've told it to use portrait only19:00
BCMM(yes, the keyboard is shut)19:00
MohammadAGyou probably killed hildon-desktop19:00
MohammadAGor have orientation lock set19:00
MohammadAGkilling hildon-desktop breaks rotation till the device is rebooted19:01
BCMMah, thanks19:01
BCMMi thought it seemed to recover on reboot19:01
BCMMi presume that also applies to segfaulting h-d?19:01
MohammadAGyeah19:01
BCMM(i've still got that notification window crash)19:01
BCMMi really must stop trying to parse rantom's grammar before i go crazy19:02
MohammadAGlol19:03
BCMMMohammadAG: does the notification window crash (dating back to MHD) have a bug number?19:05
MohammadAGyes19:05
BCMMit seemed to be well known in MHD, but i think i recall somebody saying they couldn't reproduce19:05
BCMMah, ok19:05
BCMMmostly out of interest, do you have the bug number? i can't seem to see it on the list of cssu bugs19:07
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MohammadAGsec19:10
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MohammadAGQt by Nokia pushed 1898 commits to +qt-developers/qt/x11-maemo:4.7-fremantle19:21
MohammadAGomg?19:21
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MohammadAGBCMM, LOL he was talking about fading to black while rotating19:25
merlin1991where what?19:25
BCMMMohammadAG: hasn't their always been a brief black screen in rotation?19:25
MohammadAGhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=974844&postcount=222919:25
BCMM(i mean, isn't it not a CSSU thing)19:25
BCMMoh, or did you actually mean fading?19:25
MohammadAGBCMM, yes, the code even has Fade to Black (C) Metallica19:26
MohammadAG(it's actually in there)19:26
MohammadAG            /* Fade to black ((c) Metallica) */19:27
MohammadAG            Orientation_change.phase = FADE_OUT;19:27
MohammadAG            hd_transition_fade_and_rotate(19:27
merlin1991tbh when I tried zaxis rotation it looked like it's jumping, not fading to black19:27
MohammadAGso it's actually intended, the screen has to realign at some point19:27
MohammadAGit's a shame that Qt apps take a while to realign19:27
merlin1991it rotated a lil then blink and then came visible in portrait19:27
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MohammadAGmerlin1991, this is what it should be like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZeDI0BsoBM&feature=youtu.be19:28
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merlin1991it seems to blink19:28
merlin1991it doesn't look "smooth"19:28
MohammadAGyour device sucks19:30
MohammadAG:P19:30
MohammadAGare the rotation values the same or did you change them?19:30
merlin1991I'm talking about the video19:31
merlin1991not on my device :D19:31
merlin1991I use normal rotation19:31
MohammadAGlow framerate :P19:31
merlin1991I like how it looks :)19:31
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JaffaMohammadAG: The problem is that it doesn't fade to black with zaxisrotation, it just blinks.19:36
JaffaMohammadAG: And Qt apps don't repaint quickly to the new layout, looking a bit shit.19:36
MohammadAG(Qt apps) /me nods19:39
MohammadAGthough I'm interested in why Gtk can repaint faster19:39
BCMMMohammadAG: both on my device (i use that style of rotation; it's very smooth and doesn't waste time either), and in the video, it appears to blank in a single step, as it were19:42
BCMMrather than fade to black through some intermediate frames19:43
BCMMit may be that i'm just not perceiving the fade because it's fast19:43
BCMMmaybe that's why it looks so slick19:43
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