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| chem|st | what is the executable name of cssu config edior foo*? | 17:55 |
| MohammadAG | no idea, it wasn't developed by any of us | 17:57 |
| chem|st | mmh ok | 17:58 |
| chem|st | nasty thing | 17:59 |
| chem|st | we should prohibit "cssu" in none cssu packages | 17:59 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah | 18:00 |
| chem|st | I just trusted it by name... | 18:00 |
| MohammadAG | we're not Apple :P | 18:00 |
| Lava_Croft | sounds totally reasonable | 18:00 |
| Lava_Croft | right??? | 18:00 |
| Lava_Croft | chem|st: what package | 18:00 |
| Lava_Croft | there are two of em, i think | 18:00 |
| Lava_Croft | cssutransitionstuner and another | 18:01 |
| Lava_Croft | cssufeatures something | 18:01 |
| chem|st | CSSU Features Configuration | 18:01 |
| Lava_Croft | someone should merge them so there is one app | 18:01 |
| Lava_Croft | that one works fine here | 18:01 |
| Lava_Croft | from zee menu | 18:01 |
| Lava_Croft | no idea about the executable | 18:01 |
| chem|st | it just opts out on loading setting files | 18:01 |
| chem|st | does it use newly available stuff from CSSU? | 18:02 |
| Lava_Croft | you mean load your current settings? | 18:02 |
| chem|st | yes | 18:02 |
| chem|st | the startup brakes | 18:02 |
| Lava_Croft | it only does that for CSSU specific stuff | 18:02 |
| Lava_Croft | hence the name of the application | 18:02 |
| Lava_Croft | for me it says "Current configuration blabla shown" | 18:03 |
| Lava_Croft | which is another way of saying ive loaded your current settings | 18:03 |
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| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: s360 seems to be a bluray player? | 19:57 |
| MohammadAG | Lava_Croft, unrelated to the stock player's config :) | 19:59 |
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| Lava_Croft | MohammadAG: ;) | 20:37 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: yay! open media player has video support! party mode on! (and yes, do a 0.1 pre-release thingie for extras-devel) | 23:07 |
| merlin1991 | thp: it got a lot of featers in the past days | 23:08 |
| MohammadAG | thp, :D | 23:08 |
| merlin1991 | s/featers/features/ | 23:08 |
| MohammadAG | things left to do: playlist and genres view, separate thread for handling playlists, playlists in videos (do we need that...), working internet radio window | 23:09 |
| MohammadAG | and it'll be complete, for a v0.9 at least | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | lots of shullfe songs button need to be hooked up | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | long press menu on titles | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | oh yeah | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | working add to playlist buttons | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | add to playlist is piss easy | 23:10 |
| MohammadAG | for one song at least | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | and yeah delete buttons that have no singals yet .) | 23:11 |
| MohammadAG | most do | 23:11 |
| merlin1991 | even though I don't see the reason for delete buttons in a player :P | 23:11 |
| merlin1991 | and the "categories" view in videos is the same as the "latest" one :) | 23:13 |
| MohammadAG | I forgot I even added that :) | 23:13 |
| merlin1991 | and the shuffle all button needs a lil work :D | 23:14 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah before I forget we need to find the sizelimitation for album art in entertainment view | 23:14 |
| MohammadAG | I already limit it | 23:14 |
| merlin1991 | gotta try it with the insane album again then :D | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | width: 360 | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | height: 360 | 23:15 |
| merlin1991 | and the volum selection bar sometimes doesn't forward changes to the system volume | 23:15 |
| MohammadAG | err, what? | 23:16 |
| MohammadAG | it should, if you drag it | 23:16 |
| merlin1991 | if you just press a lower level it sometimes works and sometimes not | 23:16 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure if sliderMoved(int) is emitted when you simply click on a new position | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | it seems like it isn't always | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | because if I click a few times it works :D | 23:17 |
| MohammadAG | if so, I need to change that to valueChanged(int), then disconnect/reconnect when I'm setting it | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | or maybe that's because I "slide" a lil every few tries | 23:17 |
| Sc0rpius | first merge request done | 23:20 |
| Sc0rpius | working on the second one | 23:20 |
| Sc0rpius | first one = tinymail | 23:20 |
| Sc0rpius | second one = modest | 23:20 |
| merlin1991 | what was it about? | 23:20 |
| merlin1991 | well I could go and just look at it :P | 23:21 |
| * merlin1991 does that | 23:21 | |
| MohammadAG | tree view | 23:21 |
| Sc0rpius | I want to finish this so I can work in the toolbar in portrait mode, it's important that it looks right | 23:22 |
| Sc0rpius | the most two important buttons are gone in portrait mode! | 23:22 |
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| MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, merged | 23:27 |
| Arkenoi | sc0rpius: what's new in modest and tinymail? gpg support? :-) | 23:27 |
| Sc0rpius | good, but you read about the build package? | 23:27 |
| merlin1991 | Arkenoi: tree view | 23:27 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah tree view mode | 23:28 |
| Sc0rpius | are still people using PGP (or its GNU equivalent gpg) ? | 23:28 |
| Arkenoi | what about one-click access to inbox? | 23:28 |
| Sc0rpius | wow I haven't seen a pgp crypted mail since 1992รง | 23:28 |
| Arkenoi | Sc0rpius, yes. s/mime is not a true replacement | 23:28 |
| Sc0rpius | you would like the tree view mode then Arkenoi | 23:28 |
| Sc0rpius | it's "kinda" like a one click access to inbox | 23:29 |
| MohammadAG | Sc0rpius, yes | 23:29 |
| Sc0rpius | you'll see all your accounts in a tree you don't have to go back to an account window to change from one inbox to another | 23:29 |
| Arkenoi | Sc0rpius, and when did you see s/mime encrypted message? | 23:29 |
| Sc0rpius | I think I haven't seen the first :P | 23:29 |
| Arkenoi | what really sucks in modest is the *first* selection dialog. why should i care if any of my email accounts are MfE, any are NM or IMAP? There is NO rationale to see it at all! | 23:30 |
| Arkenoi | Sc0rpius, so what do you do if you need to send any confidential information? Ask your counterpart to use gmail tls? :-))) | 23:31 |
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| Sc0rpius | hmm dunno | 23:34 |
| Arkenoi | that's the point | 23:34 |
| Arkenoi | there are people who care about privacy | 23:34 |
| Arkenoi | the fact you do not see them does not mean they do not exist :-) | 23:34 |
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| Arkenoi | actually it is a shame general public do not care about privacy at all | 23:38 |
| Arkenoi | does | 23:38 |
| Arkenoi | even | 23:38 |
| Sc0rpius | I think I don't send emails that have sensitive information | 23:38 |
| Sc0rpius | I just call the recipient | 23:39 |
| Arkenoi | Hahaha | 23:39 |
| merlin1991 | well we all happily give our private data to google and 10billion other big companies | 23:39 |
| Arkenoi | and you do not have ZRTP either | 23:39 |
| Arkenoi | merlin1991, there is data and there is data | 23:39 |
| Arkenoi | it makes some difference | 23:39 |
| merlin1991 | sure, so why are companies outsourcing their email servers to cloud providers? | 23:40 |
| merlin1991 | hm? | 23:40 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 23:40 |
| Sc0rpius | actually if you think about it | 23:41 |
| Sc0rpius | Gmail must have all my passwords and stuff everytime I click on forgot password on any website | 23:41 |
| Sc0rpius | since I'm a nobody, I don't care :) | 23:41 |
| merlin1991 | Sc0rpius: that's why you normally change your pw when you got it sent to you :D | 23:42 |
| merlin1991 | also because it prob went unencrypted over the wire :P | 23:42 |
| Arkenoi | and there are entities other than google that may access to data in transit | 23:42 |
| * merlin1991 doesn't like the gov looking @ his data | 23:43 | |
| Arkenoi | given google is unlikely to cooperate with our government without court order i feel moderately safe with google, cannot be that safe with local ISPs | 23:44 |
| Arkenoi | even less with local cellular operators | 23:44 |
| merlin1991 | Arkenoi: hehe here in austria ISPs are not allowed to store that sensitive data :D | 23:44 |
| merlin1991 | even though that is against an eu regulation | 23:45 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 23:45 |
| Arkenoi | here in Russia everything sucks | 23:45 |
| Arkenoi | i wonder what should happen to get other countries accept political refugees from Russia again | 23:46 |
| Arkenoi | as in Soviet Union era | 23:46 |
| merlin1991 | talking about court oder, tbh if you look at bigger cases in the us, the first thing they do is have to court order every possible party that has data to share it | 23:46 |
| Arkenoi | unlikely at all, despite the fact we are much like Soviet Union nowdays | 23:46 |
| Arkenoi | it is curiously stupid thing that people do not treat crypto and privacy as essential feature and prefer to trust all possible third parties or just think "i am nobody, no one cares about getting my secrets" | 23:49 |
| Arkenoi | or even worse, "fair person has nothing to hide" | 23:49 |
| merlin1991 | I trust noone | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | I like to think the oooold british way | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | "my home is my castle" | 23:50 |
| Arkenoi | then WHY no smartphone does not have email, voice and IM encryption out of the box? | 23:50 |
| merlin1991 | even though that doesn't apply anymore anywhere | 23:50 |
| Arkenoi | though almost everyone has openssl libraries, just lying there unattended, used for web only? | 23:51 |
| Arkenoi | it sucks | 23:51 |
| merlin1991 | I guess that partly comes from the us laws about cryptographic exports in the past | 23:51 |
| Arkenoi | it should be BASIC and UBIQUITOUS feature | 23:52 |
| Arkenoi | merlin1991, long gone | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | scared everyone off in the first place and then when we had unencrypted traffic as defacto standard noone important enough cared to switch again | 23:52 |
| Arkenoi | even worse, Nokia had "weakened" SSL in its old communicator series, though it was never manufactured in US | 23:52 |
| Arkenoi | nor even able to work there as those were GSM900 | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | just think about the thing with french windows | 23:52 |
| merlin1991 | wich had even worse pw encryption due to weird crypto laws | 23:53 |
| merlin1991 | or the fact that in austria encrypted traffic over public networks was forbidden by law since something 2002 | 23:54 |
| Arkenoi | wow | 23:54 |
| Arkenoi | and how do they deal with ssl, ipsec and stuff? | 23:55 |
| merlin1991 | everyone did it anyway | 23:55 |
| merlin1991 | and there were no lawsuits | 23:55 |
| merlin1991 | but it was there in the law stating that encrypted traffic over public networks is prohibiated | 23:55 |
| Arkenoi | even worse, morons who are responsible for that law actually avoided any responsibility | 23:55 |
| merlin1991 | s/prohibiated/prohibited/ | 23:55 |
| merlin1991 | yea it got silently removed at some point | 23:56 |
| merlin1991 | noone talked about it | 23:56 |
| Arkenoi | i'd like them to be punished in public, but i bet we do not even know their names | 23:56 |
| merlin1991 | actually i said that wrong way around I meant untill something 2002 :P | 23:58 |
| merlin1991 | atm it's not prohibiated :) | 23:59 |
| Arkenoi | anyways, it was stupid even back then | 23:59 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 23:59 |
| merlin1991 | the next thing is that you never know where your tcp/ip traffic actually flows | 23:59 |
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