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| usrn | stable is better for me (uninstalled TC) | 00:07 |
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| usrn | thanks for patience | 00:07 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: tactile configurable via transitions.ini (or the global 'screen vibration' flag? sounds okay to me | 01:10 |
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| macmaN | latest ssu is friggin awesome | 11:40 |
| macmaN | cssu* | 11:40 |
| macmaN | hopefully portrait taskswitch+desktop will follow | 11:41 |
| macmaN | but i noticed on the feature request page open source media player is underway | 11:41 |
| macmaN | nevermind ill check gitorious | 11:41 |
| macmaN | and we're back, not seeing a repo there for media player? | 11:42 |
| Jaffa | The feature request page is a nice idea, badly implemented: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=957141&postcount=1536 | 11:50 |
| Jaffa | macmaN: http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/?p=26 | 11:51 |
| Jaffa | macmaN: It's not part of the CSSU yet | 11:51 |
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| macmaN | hahaaaaa | 12:16 |
| macmaN | that is Awesome | 12:16 |
| macmaN | i just recently jumped in here wanting to patch media player | 12:16 |
| macmaN | or did i broadcast that here | 12:17 |
| macmaN | not sure | 12:17 |
| macmaN | i wonder why i only now find out about this effort | 12:17 |
| macmaN | is there an installable package for this? | 12:19 |
| macmaN | hmm, i wonder why i'm not finding git-core | 12:25 |
| macmaN | have both extras-testing and extras-devel enabled | 12:28 |
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| Lava_Croft | i just created the first useful apple mobile device | 13:35 |
| Lava_Croft | by sticking an Apple sticker onto my N900 | 13:35 |
| macmaN | :) | 13:36 |
| Lava_Croft | i have to rephrase tho, iphones are great for games | 13:37 |
| Jaffa | Connecting to VPNs transparently to do mail replication is a good, sensible feature. | 13:38 |
| Jaffa | (we don't expose our company Exchange server towards the Internet :-() | 13:38 |
| Lava_Croft | i would live a foss replacement for ovi suite orso | 13:43 |
| Lava_Croft | live/love | 13:43 |
| Lava_Croft | i'd never live it, that would be sad | 13:43 |
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| Khertan1 | Hello All ! | 15:21 |
| Khertan1 | Jaffa or MohammadAG, i ve a patch to submit for Maemo Qt 4.7, is there a git community repo for it ? | 15:21 |
| Khertan1 | http://gitorious.org/community-ssu?page=1 <<< hum ... no qt package here :) | 15:25 |
| divan | Khertan1, Qt4.7 doesn't belong to SSU as I know. It's in the Nokia repositories. | 15:26 |
| Khertan1 | yep ... | 15:27 |
| Khertan1 | so a no go | 15:27 |
| Khertan1 | will never be fixed | 15:27 |
| Venemo | Khertan1: there is already a package called "Qt hotfixes" | 15:27 |
| Khertan1 | oh | 15:28 |
| Venemo | Khertan1: I guess your fix can be made part of it | 15:28 |
| Venemo | Khertan1: achipa, Jaffa or MohammadAG would know more than me | 15:28 |
| Khertan1 | hum ... seems the hotfix package isn't part of cssu, and is only for some missing part of qt quick | 15:28 |
| Venemo | so far. | 15:29 |
| divan | Maybe worth try to approach Qt maintainers in official way? | 15:29 |
| Venemo | Khertan1: anyway, what's your fix? | 15:29 |
| Khertan1 | Venemo: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-15140?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=132069#action_132069 | 15:31 |
| Venemo | Khertan1: why not just send them a patch? | 15:32 |
| Jaffa | Khertan1: MohammadAG also had a Qt fix he wanted to include. | 15:32 |
| Khertan1 | Venemo: i ve sent a patch | 15:32 |
| Jaffa | Khertan1: So, as long as our friendly Forum Nokia folk like achipa don't have a problem with it, I don't see why CSSU wouldn't include Qt bug fixes | 15:32 |
| Khertan1 | Jaffa: great | 15:32 |
| Khertan1 | :) | 15:32 |
| Khertan1 | Jaffa: as i use currently a work arround but consume some cpu for nothing | 15:33 |
| Khertan1 | :) | 15:33 |
| Jaffa | The only thing which makes it slightly different to other core packages is that Forum Nokia are actively looking after the Maemo Qt ecosystem, whereas we know Nokia generally aren't doing that for other Maemo stuff. | 15:34 |
| Khertan1 | (and the bug smell like a copy paste error) | 15:35 |
| Khertan1 | :) | 15:35 |
| * Jaffa would love to hear achipa's thoughts on it. Will send him a log. | 15:37 | |
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| Jaffa | 'lo achipa | 16:35 |
| achipa | 'lo Jaffa | 16:37 |
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| achipa | Jaffa: replied on the dev list | 17:00 |
| Jaffa | achipa: Thanks | 17:00 |
| achipa | Jaffa: long story short - tricky but not impossible. Need to hear a few more thoughts to make sure we pick the best solution | 17:01 |
| Jaffa | achipa: Points about ABI compatibility are very valid. Definitely want this to be limited to bug fixes, and bug fixes which don't impact the ABI. ISTR something about ABI compatibility across C++ changes being "tricky", but that was years ago. | 17:05 |
| Jaffa | It'd also be good if we could find a way of putting a sanity check at the end of the build step for those packages, so it "exit 1"s if the ABI differs from PR1.3 | 17:05 |
| achipa | Jaffa: right, we will need to do an upgrade at some point (I think qtquick 1.1 starts with 4.7.3 ?), and 4.7.0RC is not helping :S | 17:08 |
| thp | achipa: where (in which repo) will that upgrade to QtQuick 1.1 happen? | 17:09 |
| achipa | thp: which repo as in ? | 17:31 |
| thp | as in nokia ssu, extras, extras-devel, cssu, ... | 17:40 |
| thp | or was this more along the lines of "we should do an upgrade at some point, but not sure where and how to do it" | 17:40 |
| achipa | thp: that will depend on what the choice for Qt upgrades will be | 17:40 |
| achipa | yep | 17:41 |
| achipa | I don't think it's Extras really, but we'll see | 17:41 |
| achipa | ideally nokia repo, cssu more likely | 17:41 |
| thp | will this upgrade to qt not break or affect ovi store items and extras items (with the extras items not being so problematic, as we can always recompile the open source apps)? | 17:47 |
| w00t_ | applications shouldn't need compilation unless you break ABI | 17:55 |
| w00t_ | and you should not be breaking ABI anyway | 17:55 |
| Khertan1 | thp: hum ... there is qt apps in ovistore ? | 17:55 |
| w00t_ | *recompilation* rather | 17:55 |
| Khertan1 | My main request for qt : http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-developers/qt/x11-maemo/merge_requests/7 | 17:56 |
| Khertan1 | :) | 17:56 |
| Khertan1 | only one charactere patch | 17:56 |
| Khertan1 | and only -1 in hexa ;) | 17:56 |
| Khertan1 | y should be x | 17:56 |
| Khertan1 | :) | 17:56 |
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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: One for your radar: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=957403&postcount=1569 | 18:53 |
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| thp | Jaffa: MohammadAG: RSS Reader should get rid of the HPaned and replace it with a main window (feed list) + sub stacked window (feed "contents") | 19:11 |
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| MohammadAG | it should also use kinetic scrolling | 19:26 |
| thp | MohammadAG: i think that's what the code linked from Jaffa's TMO link does | 19:26 |
| thp | MohammadAG: http://git.tal.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=osso-rss-feed-reader.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/cssu-devel | 19:27 |
| MohammadAG | oh | 19:27 |
| MohammadAG | haven't looked at it yet | 19:27 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, thp, my merge request was processed upstream, does that mean we can include it? | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | (it doesn't break ABI) | 19:28 |
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| Sc0rpius | I wonder if the modest language files should be a different project or just expand the debian/control file of modest | 20:13 |
| Sc0rpius | I think different is better | 20:15 |
| macmaN | just in case anyone here didnt know already | 20:33 |
| macmaN | http://vc.gerg.ca/hg/vcprompt/ | 20:33 |
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| Sc0rpius | so what's that | 20:38 |
| SpacedOut | A couple of kernel questions if anyone knows. I'm trying to get the fix for the bluetooth Motorola S305 headset crashing N900 in the upstream kernel. N900's running 2.6.28, the proposed fix fails and they would like the proposed fix tested in a more recent kernel, in my case that means on the N900. Has anyone tried a 2.6.37 kernel? Are their binary drivers that only work on 2.6.28? | 20:54 |
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| Venemo | SpacedOut: yes, there are | 21:03 |
| Venemo | SpacedOut: for a more recent kernel version, see #meego and MeeGo's kernel | 21:03 |
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| SpacedOut | Can the meego kernel boot into Maemo with a working bluetooth and such? | 21:05 |
| Sc0rpius | it seems there was once a community effort to make a modest-l10n-public package | 21:06 |
| Sc0rpius | but I can't find it anywhere | 21:06 |
| SpacedOut | I was reluctant to try because I didn't want to mess up and reflash root, I've done it before but it's a lot of work to get it back to the current state. Then i was confused as to why meego's kernel would let the flasher load it into memory and run from there (without flashing the kernel to the kernel partition), but I couldn't get a Maemo kernel to do that. | 21:07 |
| Venemo | SpacedOut: MeeGo kernel works with MeeGo | 21:08 |
| SpacedOut | But not Maemo? Why not? | 21:08 |
| Venemo | SpacedOut: noone tried afaik | 21:09 |
| Sc0rpius | I would just get another headset :P | 21:09 |
| Venemo | Sc0rpius ++ | 21:10 |
| SpacedOut | It's a known NULL dereference problem, and I have a patch that works for me, but I'm just trying to get it fixed once and for all. | 21:10 |
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| Venemo | SpacedOut: maybe you could consult with the authors of the power kernel | 21:11 |
| SpacedOut | I e-mailed him the patch, but didn't hear back yet. | 21:12 |
| Sc0rpius | so why you said "the proposed fix fails" if it works for you? | 21:12 |
| SpacedOut | But yes, he should have experience with what you can flash and not without having to restart from scratch. | 21:13 |
| SpacedOut | The fix I wrote works. The fix the bluetooth maintainer said shouldn't get it into that state fails on the N900. | 21:13 |
| SpacedOut | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10510 | 21:15 |
| povbot | Bug 10510: N900 reboots whenever I turn on Motorola S305 bluetooth headset | 21:15 |
| SpacedOut | If I can just test kernels by loading their modules and flashing the kernel, then flashing back to the current kernel that would be fine, I just haven't yet had any success just flashing a kernel, so I'm worried about getting back to the current kernel, without doing a full rootfs reload. | 21:17 |
| MohammadAG | if you can flash the rootfs, you can flash the kernel | 21:18 |
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| SpacedOut | If loading and booting a kernel without flashing `flasher-3.5 -l -b -k kernel` fails, why should I expect flashing the same kernel would work? Or how is it different for flashing and booting rather than loading and booting? | 21:20 |
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| SpacedOut | Venemo: That was a good suggestion for looking at booting a MeeGo kernel, I hadn't thought of that to test this. | 21:22 |
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| Sc0rpius | so | 22:25 |
| Sc0rpius | what would be newer, 6.11+0m5 or 6.11+0cssu1 ? | 22:26 |
| Sc0rpius | or what should I put to be newer than 6.11+0m5? | 22:26 |
| njsf | 6.11+1m5 maybe ? | 22:26 |
| njsf | sorry 6.11+1cssu1 | 22:27 |
| Sc0rpius | hmm | 22:41 |
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| Sc0rpius | so I created an initial repository for modest public language files | 23:52 |
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| njsf | hmmm I could contribute .pt_PT translation if needed | 23:57 |
| njsf | gitorious of cssu ? | 23:58 |
| Sc0rpius | well I would try to get it into the CSSU, I made an initial repository so people can see how it looks and stuff | 23:59 |
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