IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Saturday, 2011-02-12

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Sc0rpiuscool that it was fixed00:45
Sc0rpiusnow what about that change about the scroll and selection?00:45
Sc0rpiushttp://gitorious.org/modest/modest/commit/b38bb395947076883ccb68e800b49e8dd68fdc7b00:46
Sc0rpiusnobody has taken a look at it?00:47
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MohammadAGSc0rpius, already fixed00:58
MohammadAGI thought I already added a comment on the bug00:58
MohammadAGyup, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1187400:59
povbotBug 11874: Impossible to select text once the email is scrolled (similar to Bug 10390)00:59
Sc0rpiusnice01:34
Sc0rpiusbut an update hasn't been pushed01:34
Sc0rpiusit's ok01:34
MohammadAGyes, this week means I have till sunday :P01:40
MohammadAGenough to get horizontal scrolling fixes in01:41
MohammadAGand maybe listen to portrait mode changes and repaint that New Message button? :P01:41
Sc0rpiusI wonder if listening to screen-changed signal is enough02:15
Sc0rpiusor maybe changing MODEST_EDITABLE_SIZE to HILDON_SIZE_AUTO_WIDTH02:22
Sc0rpius#define MODEST_EDITABLE_SIZE 002:22
Sc0rpiusnah forget it.02:22
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MohammadAGSc0rpius, listening to size-changed for the window would suffice02:44
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Sc0rpiusthe problem must be something else...03:03
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Sc0rpiushmm03:12
Sc0rpiusthis is weird:03:12
Sc0rpiusgo to portrait mode, scroll a little until you get your New Message Button well drawn03:13
Sc0rpiusnow change to landspace: it gets redrawn correctly03:13
Sc0rpiuswhy it works from portrait -> landscape and fails landspace -> portrait is beyond me03:13
MohammadAGyes03:13
MohammadAGyeah, noticed that03:13
MohammadAGhorizontal scrolling also needs to be fixed for portrait mode to work03:14
Sc0rpiusbecause every other GtkWidget in the screen gets redrawn correctly, the GtkTreeView (the list of folders, messages whatever)03:14
MohammadAGyep03:14
Sc0rpiuseven the menu if it's open gets redrawn correctly03:14
Sc0rpiusweird.03:14
Sc0rpiusI wonder why I typed landspace instead of landscape, my mind is playing tricks03:15
MohammadAGonly the new message button isn't redrawn correctly03:15
MohammadAGI didn't notice that xD03:15
Sc0rpiusyup03:15
Sc0rpiusand only fails from landscape -> portrait.03:16
Sc0rpiusso I think Modest is already listening to changes in screen03:16
MohammadAGalso03:17
MohammadAGif you open a new stacked window, and close it, the new message button is drawn properly03:17
Sc0rpiusindeed03:18
Sc0rpiusthis is even worse:03:20
Sc0rpiusif you tap and hole the bad drawn New message button, it's "clicked" state is drawn correctly03:21
Sc0rpius"hold"03:21
MohammadAGpressed*03:22
MohammadAGso it just needs something to repaint it03:22
Sc0rpiusand by the way the new message compose window looks really bad in portrait03:23
MohammadAGtrue03:23
MohammadAGSc0rpius,03:24
MohammadAGif the horizontal scrolling bug is fixed03:24
MohammadAGit should be scrollable03:24
MohammadAGwhich is bearable for portrait mode03:24
Sc0rpiusyeah and could be a "workaround" for the compose window03:24
Sc0rpiusuntil a proper compose window in portrait mode is coded03:24
MohammadAGyes, since the buttons are all part of the same hildonpannablearea03:24
MohammadAGalso03:25
MohammadAGdo you know why there's no padding on the right?03:25
MohammadAGeven in landscape mode03:25
Sc0rpiusno ,why03:26
MohammadAGI'm asking :P03:26
Sc0rpiuswell the compose window in portrait is totally useless03:26
Sc0rpiusif you try to type, the virtual keyboard goes landscape03:26
MohammadAGnot if you have the portrait keyboard app installed03:26
Sc0rpiusoh03:27
Dhraakellianportrait keyboard app?03:28
MohammadAGFastSMSEvo03:28
MohammadAGit's in -devel03:28
* Dhraakellian just wandered by and saw that phrase03:28
Dhraakellianah03:28
* Dhraakellian generally stays out of -devel unless there's something very specific he's looking for03:29
* Dhraakellian fires up fapman03:30
Dhraakelliannot, y'know, that I use the virtual keyboard very often anyway03:30
MohammadAGme neither03:30
MohammadAGbut it's useful to have03:30
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Dhraakellianhmm03:39
DhraakellianI'm also seeing portrait-keyboard03:40
Dhraakellianhow does that compare?03:40
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MohammadAGDhraakellian, that was a proof of concept03:53
Dhraakellianah03:53
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prgrmping09:41
thpMohammadAG: so you probably can apply my merge request 2 as-is then :)10:08
prgrmis it normal to have a dist-upgrade try and remove everything?10:14
prgrmi doubt it is. i think somebody in extras done goofed.10:15
prgrmanyhoo...10:18
prgrmand what was community-ssu-enabler supposed to do?10:25
psycho_oreosadds community ssu into the category under HAM10:44
psycho_oreosadds all the keys and what not10:44
prgrmso am i supposed to manually install mp-fremantle-community-pr?10:45
psycho_oreosno10:45
psycho_oreoswell not completely as far as I can see10:45
prgrmoops10:47
prgrmdoesnt look like there was any harm done10:47
psycho_oreoswell its hard to say what you have done anyway, dist-upgrade usually pulls stuff from the official Extras repository as well as any other official repositories10:48
psycho_oreosin other words afaik, you're not meant to use dist-upgrade when installing community SSU10:48
prgrmoh well... it upgraded hildon-desktop and libvte, basically the stuff that the changelog says were changed10:55
prgrmand others of course10:55
psycho_oreoswell those are stuff from community SSU so yeah I suppose you have community SSU properly enabled10:55
prgrmthe i messed up and had to change the extras-* from fremantle-1.3 to fremantle, and disable extras-devel cuz it was causing havoc, and in the meantime i missed the directive to "Look for Community SSU and launch it."10:58
prgrmi even did a apt-get --reinstall on it. i havnt rebooted yet, nor was i directed to.10:58
prgrmI will need to verify that "ensure HAM will now be using community repository for updates" and what the application script was suppose to do in general i guess.10:59
psycho_oreoswell when normally using stuff from community SSU, notably after upgrading those relevant core packages it should prompt you to restart, and before restarting you'll see hildon-desktop being killed in the process and what not11:00
prgrmi did not11:00
prgrm:(11:00
prgrmfriggin extras-devel...11:00
prgrmkinda reminds me of my gentoo days when a dev would totally wreck portage with the depends...11:01
prgrmand btw i am developing a PAM module that uses the lock code to auth against.11:02
prgrmif theres a custom ham, it should be lockcode protected, imho. as should anything that admins the system.11:04
prgrmthe current way of just being able to sudo gainroot, or run ham for that matter, means anyone can rootkit my phone when im not looking for 5 minutes...11:05
prgrmno bueno11:05
prgrmi havnt really gotten gconf down, but maybe it would be possible to have a setting to lock down any sort of administrative stuff, like ham and sudo, with this PAM module that auths against the lockcode...11:07
psycho_oreosI think there was a program available that could lock certain apps you don't want others to use. I could be mistaken however for thinking that it was for only symbian device11:07
psycho_oreoswhy don't you have it so that when the user tries to run those packages it would prompt the lock code?11:08
prgrmunfortunately, atm i dont think anything really links against libpam, so...11:08
prgrmthats exactly what im thinking about11:09
prgrmfor the gui stuff, i need to find the library that handles the lockcode gui popup11:09
psycho_oreoslibdevlock1?11:10
prgrmfor xterm, im closely following pam_unix method of using pam_info() and pam_prompt(), but i need a way to figure out if i should use the gui...11:10
psycho_oreososso-systemui-tklock11:11
prgrmwhat do both do?11:11
psycho_oreoslibdevlock1 - functions for validating and changing the lock code | osso-systemui-tklock - Touch screen and keypad lock UI11:13
psycho_oreosthere's plenty of packages matching lock when one does dpkg -l| grep lock11:13
JaffaMorning, all11:14
psycho_oreoshi Jaffa11:14
JaffaMohammadAG: Not seen _nicolai_'s applet; but was aware of the issue.11:15
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lardmanis it just me or does the community ssu install file link not work from the N900 browser?14:03
MohammadAGlardman, which one?14:04
Jaffalardman: Define "not work" ;-)14:04
lardmanwiki.maemo.oeg/Community_SSU link at top14:04
lardmanI click, it does nothing, won't download, can't save it, etc14:04
* Jaffa needs to do a reflash PR1.3 later today14:04
Jaffalardman: Which one, "Stable" or "Testing"?14:04
lardmanTesting, the one that on my desktop shows a link to an install file14:05
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Jaffalardman: Hmm. Worked for me last time I tried.14:05
Jaffalardman: What if you manually type "http://j.mp/communityssu" in the location bar?14:06
lardmanyeah is strange14:06
MohammadAGcan't test atm, installing MeeGo on the eMMC14:06
lardmanThis browser seems terribly slow, far slower than on my previous device14:06
lardmanthis is pr1.3, so don't worry not the ssu's fault14:07
lardmanProbably just the browser being crap14:08
* lardman uses wget14:08
lardmanI noteice no barcode on that page, I was so hoping ;)14:08
Jaffalardman: It was discussed, I think ZogG was suggesting it but he never did it.14:09
lardmanok, if I provide a gif would you stick it up there?14:09
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lardmancome on HAM..... more thumb twiddling14:10
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lardmanhas HAM seen any love in the SSU?14:11
merlin__phonenot yet afaik14:12
RST38hlardman: What is the issue with installing via apt-get?14:12
* lardman might take a look at that as it looks like we're going to be using this for the long haul14:13
Jaffalardman: It's a wiki... :-p14:13
lardmanRST38h: none, just trying to get the .install file14:13
lardmanJaffa: good call14:13
Jaffalardman: Some HAM hacking would be good.14:13
Jaffalardman: Just make it look pretty ;-)14:13
lardmanJaffa: yes, but first of all make it fast14:13
lardman(er)14:13
Jaffalardman: I meant the barcode14:13
* merlin__phone was thinking of caching the parsed list data to speed up startup14:14
lardmanoh I see, what with an embedded pattern you mean?14:14
Jaffalardman: http://j.mp/cssut is a very short link to the -testing install. That should give you a smaller barcode14:14
lardmanok thanks14:15
lardmannow call me a dumb user, but has it actually done anything, I didn't see it install, I just ticked a box and off it went14:16
merlin__phoneoff it went?14:16
RST38hProbably still working14:16
lardmanyeah the message vanished and nothing seemed to happen14:16
Jaffalardman: Have you read the install instructions? ;-)14:17
RST38hcheck cpu load14:17
merlin__phoneit takes some time after the msg14:17
Jaffalardman: Now run "Community SSU Enabler"14:17
lardmanI thought that was autorun by the .install file?14:17
lardmanI seem to rmember ticking a box on something called that14:17
lardmanoh I see, it's an application14:18
lardmanMy mind wandered in the 5min or so it took HAM to actually load and display the message from the .install file14:19
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lardmanAny thoughts of including kernel patches in the ssu?14:54
lardmanAlso, when a community ssu fixes a bug in the bugtracker, does one say so on the bugtracker14:55
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Jaffalardman: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=923088#post923088 for bug workflow15:28
Jaffalardman: The community kernel package in kernel-power doesn't need an SSU to update it; but whether or not we pull it in is up in the air. No reason not to, as long as anything which then utilises its overclocking abilities is clearly labelled and warns the user if it's a user-friendly UI for excedding 600MHz15:29
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lardmanJaffa: thanks17:20
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kennaeGood evening. First time here and I have few questions just to ensure my repos are right19:36
kennaeinstalled SSU, works great, but cant see any new repos in HAM or FAPMAN, is this correct?19:37
MohammadAGhow did you install it?19:37
kennaefrom the wiki link "testing"19:37
kennaeI have all these nokia OVI repos and stuff there and I think they arent used for anything anymore19:38
MohammadAGI'm assuming that opened HAM and it showed a dialog to add the repo, afterwhich you clicked "Add" right?19:38
kennaeyes19:38
kennaeand it installed right and booted the phone19:38
MohammadAGthen the repository should be in HAM with the name "Community SSU (testing)"19:38
kennaeI would like to know what repos I essentially need and what I can remove19:39
merlin1991I can't tell you wich you need and wich not, but afaik I have pr 1.3 + cssu and that results in 5 repos: nokia apps, nokia systemupdates, ovi, meamo extras, cssu (names are changed since I have german translation here)19:40
kennaeyeah19:40
kennaethanks19:40
kennaebeen using extras and extras testing from the start too, no hiccups19:41
kennaeand thanks for the great work MohammadAG, your mods have saved me from upgrading my phone :)19:41
kennaecan I donate to the project?19:41
kennaedo I need the ovi repos or nokias own ones anymore?19:43
kennaeI mean, has there been any new packages in ages19:43
MohammadAGkennae, you're welcome :)19:45
MohammadAGThe CSSU bases it's work on patches by the community19:46
MohammadAGbasically, donations are patches ;)19:46
kennae:)19:46
kennaenot a coder myself, more of an graphics guy19:47
kennaebut I have seen so many projects that I know the amount of work19:47
MohammadAGI can't accept donations for the SSU, it'd be ripping off others' work :)19:49
lcukMohammadAG, :) please shout if there is anything you need and we will try to find a way19:50
kennaejust thought that there could be some kind of community bank for SSU :)19:51
lcukwhy just for SSU?19:51
lcukthere are communities around the world19:52
merlin1991hm when ones nose decide to bleed one shouldn't exhale through the nose heavily, damn mess here now :D19:53
lcukmerlin1991, eep19:53
MohammadAGlcuk, thanks :)19:53
merlin1991looks like I killed someone :D19:54
MohammadAGmerlin1991, I wouldn't be IRCing if my nose was bleeding :P19:54
merlin1991everything for the community ;)19:54
lcukI gave blood a few years ago.19:54
MohammadAGlcuk, got a pic of your nick with the iPhone lying on the screen19:57
MohammadAGthe N86 beats it19:57
lcuk:)19:57
lcukadd it to the thread19:57
MohammadAGsure19:58
MohammadAGwhen I figure out how to send via BT :/19:58
MohammadAGoh right, it only supports sending pics via email19:58
merlin1991MohammadAG, how are the tags coming along?20:06
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MohammadAGmerlin1991, haven't got around to doing them, yet20:35
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