IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2018-04-24

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eLtMosengood evening guys! I have just now been invited by the customer i currently work for to go out eat. Will join again in ~2h20:18
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juicemehi!21:41
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eekkelundevening!:)22:39
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eLtMosenSoo, as expected drunk af. But in a good mood to take over the coding competiton "lead" as asked by eekkelund ;)22:57
eLtMosenOnly, i have no real idea how to evaluate actual competition code, so i'd better not be involved in that part22:58
eekkelundHeyyy :D23:00
eekkelundThat is awesome! :)23:00
eekkelundI'm willing to help you any way possible!23:00
eLtMosenI took 1.5 liter beer to decide loool23:01
eLtMosenwe should better start planning from next meeting on. i will check what you guys did the last tinme as i was not involved and only saw the awesome outcome23:02
juicemehi guys!23:07
juicemeeLtMosen, nice; we certainly need someone with a drive to start pushing the competition!23:08
juicemeevaluation will not be problem; I envision we do it like last year so entries are downloadable from openrepos and let people vote for the final result23:09
juicemewell we need to define categories, thats number one. Then announce, number two.23:10
juicemeThe rest can be done on the fly after that23:10
eekkelundeLtMose: Hahahha:D23:10
eLtMosencool! i am really looking forward!23:10
juicemeyes, it was kinda fun, to see what will emerge23:11
juicemebut it's so nice to see what 3 pints of beer will achieve :) :)23:11
eLtMosenI am really proud that my first coding stuff made it to release of asteroid os O.O23:11
eekkelundCategories, timeline, devices/platforms23:12
juicemeoh yes. the watchfaces are beautiful23:12
eekkelundCongratz !:)23:12
eLtMosenI reworked some of them to be stock watchfaces in 1.0 \o/23:12
juicemeheh, now I just need to get me a watch :)23:13
eLtMosenI will send you dory, just give me your address via mail ;)23:13
eLtMosenI got to many accumulated :D :D23:13
juicemeheh, thanks in advance!23:14
juicemehow come can one accumulate watches?23:14
eLtMoseni only wear bass, and still have unused lenok, and plan to et tetra :d23:14
juiceme:)23:14
eLtMosenon tertra,(sony watch 3) i try to get my first porting skills :D23:14
eLtMosenstill some missing features that seam to be low hanging fruits23:15
juicemeare they all named after fishies?23:15
eLtMosentetra not so much, at leat i do not know the tetra fish lol23:16
juicemequite funny when you google "dory watch" it will push up lots of images of finding-nemo-type-watches :)23:16
juicemetetra is the small needle-like aquarium fish, "neon tetra"23:16
eLtMosenyes, android watchface creation realy got as much out of hand as the whole frikkin google play store23:17
eLtMosen90% junk23:17
juicemehehe23:17
juicemehttps://www.google.com/search?q=dory+watch&client=ubuntu&hs=jTm&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjvg_Tw3NPaAhUE3iwKHeaFD8gQsAQIMw&biw=1255&bih=74023:17
eLtMosenthe maucafturers are not so keen to annouce their code names publicly23:18
eLtMosendon't know why. its different with phones.23:18
juicemeyes indeed, I guess they are named in prototyping phase and the "marketing name" is what they want to show up23:19
eLtMosenomg, how did i mess up manufacturers. i need to go to bed :p23:19
juicemewell how many people know that "nexus 5" is hammerhead?23:19
eLtMosenyes23:19
juicemeit's same with phones really23:19
eLtMosenthey should always trust the engineers and --force the codename as productname!23:20
juicemewhen nokia still made phones the prototyping phase names were numerous... only to be released as bare numbers :)23:20
juicemeI agree, codenames are much more fun!23:21
eLtMosenah, nice just read about the neon-tetra. i had some as child but now am into eadible fish only23:22
juicemeon a not-so-related-thing, just come to my mind when I posted the link above... the real meat par of it really is just the "search?q=dory+watch" so I wonder what the f**k is the rest of the url...?23:22
juicememust be a cookie to identify me to google; look, that's the guy who is supposed to be shown results from this bubble and not the one next door...23:23
juicemeomg, I just googled about the parameters of the google urls, and turns out they indeed contain a load od stuff23:27
juicemethe "ved" thingy is an ascii encoded protobuf frame :)23:28
eLtMosenjepp, ads have become smarter ;)23:28
juicemehaha23:28
eLtMosenjust posted the most competent thing ever when drunk http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1543605&postcount=11823:29
juicemeheh, yes and I can confirm the stuff in wikipedia is correct :)23:30
juicemeI'd love to be able to cteate a ltd. with initial stock value of one pound!23:32
juicemefor a private company in finland the minimum is 2500 euros, and for bublickly traded company 80 kiloeuros...23:33
eLtMosenthere are english agencies who market "start your Ltd., we manage the paperwork" ~500€ here in germany because a german GmbH is at least 25k€23:33
juicemes/bublickly/publicly/23:33
juicemedo you have difference of grades for companies?23:34
juicemewe have several, from lowest to highest valued; open company, private stock company, public stock company23:35
eLtMosenYes, but only -> personal (self employed)-> group of personas with special agreement (GbR) -> gmbH/Ltd. -> AG/Shareholder style23:36
juicemethe open company "avoin yhtiö" is pretty much extension of a pivately owned business, which can have extra investors who have limited liability23:36
eLtMosento become AG, you need to prove for some years your legal entity GmbH works and then get promoted to AG with investors capital and all the shizzle23:37
juicemeyes I believe those map pretty much 1-to-1 to the finnish equivalents23:37
juicemeis AG the only one you can publialy trade in stock market?23:38
eLtMosenAnd in fact personal business are most respected nowadays because the person behind is reliable personally for all he does.23:38
eLtMosenall legal entities are just to risk more than necessary by shifting blame/risc to a system23:39
juicemeexactly, it's what we call "toiminimi" ( name-of-a-works )23:39
juicemethe open company is like GbR23:39
juicemehowever the OY can be both privately traded or publically traded23:40
eLtMosenah, ok23:40
juicemewe make the distinction but it's not reflected in the name23:40
eLtMosenI felt the need to clear the situation on tmo because often there is to much reading in coffee beans...23:41
juicemeheh yes and I even did not see any problems in the naming thing since I know what it means... I did not even understand people did not get it :)23:42
eLtMosen<- captain obvious23:42
juicemeya!23:42
eLtMosenjuice, send me your adress and i will package dory as sonn as i get home on monday. I am in Hannover at Hannover Tradefair and then be jetting over to munich for a puny blogger event. lol. those kids are hilarious.23:45
eLtMosenhave a good night!23:45
juicemeand you too!23:46
juicemeand hey, You are welcome to come and visit too!23:47
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