IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2017-12-05

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* Oksana waves07:19
juicemeOksana, hiya! :)10:19
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sicelogood evening21:16
eLtMosenahoi sicelo!21:18
sicelohow are you doing ? :)21:26
eLtMosenvery good! Hope the same for you ;) I am jumping between renovating my (wifes) living room and irc21:29
sicelohope you'll do a good job :p21:32
eLtMosenfirst try in advanced triple color wall design. lots of ducktape. 7 doors to cover o.o i used 4x50meter already :P21:40
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juicemehiya!21:50
juicemesicelo o/21:50
juicemeeLtMosen o/21:50
juicemerenovation is nice thing to get your mind off the "real" work now and then... unless you overdo it like I did last summenr21:52
sicelohi juiceme21:56
juicemenow, regarding the elections21:56
juicemehi21:56
juicemenow, regarding the elections; the bylawa state that "If there are fewer than 4 candidates when the nominations close, the election cannot be held"21:56
siceloyes21:57
juicemeas it happens, we do have exactly 4 candidates, and would have one more if m4r0v3r could have sent his acceptance in time21:58
juicemewhat I was to propose; that we should accept him because it is not his fault really the he could not post in time, he tried to21:59
sicelosorry my connection is very laggy21:59
juicemeare you travelling now, sicelo?21:59
siceloi saw your email. and i agree regarding m40v3r, if his karma qualifies too21:59
juicemeyes, I did not checkthat yet22:00
siceloi'm not travelling. i don't have ADSL/fiber here .. so im always on GPRS/3G :)22:01
sicelotoday it is not performing well at all22:01
juicemeah yes, it happens22:01
siceloin the email, you mention wikiwide as well. i did not understand that part22:03
juicemewell, she was away and did not notice the nomination22:03
juicemebut if she'd noticed, then maybe she'd accepted, I think22:04
juicemeor at least she did not overright deny when I managed to chat with her today22:04
siceloi understand now.22:09
sicelojust one thing i wish to clarify - is she in, or out, or netural? :)22:09
juicemewell currently out I think.22:10
juicemeas the nomination phase is over22:11
juicemeI could not find m4r0v3r's maemo.org page, so either he's got differnt username on maemo.org and TMO, or he's not got one.22:13
juicemehowever his karma is enough, 373 points which I calculated just now by hand22:14
juicemeso it looks we do have 5 registered candidates.22:14
juicemehowever I have not yet heard mosen's view on it.22:15
juicemeeLtMosen, ping22:15
juicemeit would have been good if we managed to get 7 candidates, then we could have formed council of 522:16
eLtMosenyes, m4r0v3r should be accepted!!22:17
juicemegood!22:17
sicelo:)22:17
eLtMoseni also hoped for 7 :/22:17
siceloon the bright side .. we have more candidates this time than previously, afair22:18
juiceme:)22:19
eLtMosenat least 3 candidates drew the "no time" card. If only they knew that it is not a big problem to miss meetings anyway... It would be more efficiant already if we were 2 more people who share a little time that adds up if well organized.22:22
juicemeyes, might be people think it is tedious... well time difference can be such, but we have managed with it in the past22:23
juicemetha actual council tasks are not that time-consuming22:24
siceloindeed.22:29
sicelomistaken assumptions22:30
juicemeso, we'll enter the next pahse of elections now; elections will start on next friday.22:31
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eLtMosenDo you need help with setting up the election? I assume there is a tool in maemo.org admin?22:36
juicemeyes, there is a tool but it usually requires also a minimal amount of manual sql massaging to check for example that all people are included in the database22:37
juicemeand to check that the people who *dont* want to be mass-mailed are not on the list. (there's a handful that have removed their accounts but still pop up in the database refresh...)22:38
eLtMosenI could compose the announcement for friday then at least. I have no expierince with production servers and ight break things :p22:39
juicemehehe, no problem, I can handle the sql end. There's even a short faq/manual about how to do that I once wrote :)22:41
siceloi have a bit of SQL-fu and could hlep if need be22:41
sicelojuiceme: this one, https://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_team/Creating_an_election ?22:41
juicemeyes, that's how to use the election-GUI22:43
juicemeand there's also a bit on the bottom of the page how it happens behind the curtain22:43
juicemeit's all php-scripts, which are a bit of a tiff to debug as these things go :)22:44
juicemeI myself regard php as a write-only-language, not suitable for light reading :)22:45
eLtMosenphp is like hot glue :D Productive at first, but better not touch it later.22:48
juicemehehe, I so much prefer nodejs for just about anything!22:50
juicemehowever midgard is heavily based on running pgp-snippets here and there, so we have to live with it22:51
juicemeokay, any other business?22:54
juicemeah, one thing that happened last week that's kind of noteworthy :)22:55
juicemeI got mail from Symantec that a person I had never hard of was requesting the right to create ssl certificates for maemo.org22:57
sicelo:D22:57
sicelothat's eerie22:57
eLtMosenlol22:58
juicemefirst I thought this was a scam but the symantec mail was legit, and when I started an inquiry on why this was happening it turned out that it wsa an *old* Nokia request dated years and years back that had resurfaced :)22:58
sicelohah!22:59
juicemeapparently symantec has been transferring their certificate business to another company (Digicert) and they for some reason had popped up the zombie request fom somewhere :)23:00
sicelotalking about resurfacing emails - in connection with election, there was email from Dave Neary dated 23 Sept 201023:00
juicememysterious are the ways :)23:00
eLtMosenin germany we say "the grinders of bureaucracy grind slowly"23:00
juicemeyes!23:01
juicemeand old emails/requests/tickets never die, they just sink deep into the pools, to be carried up again geological ages passing23:02
sicelo:p23:04
eLtMosenso, i will go finish ducktape work. Should we send out another aouncement prior to sending vote tokens?23:07
juicemeyes, I think it'd be correct to annonce the candidates on TMO and ML, and of course update the election page.23:08
juicemedid we already have an election page, forgot to check?23:08
juicemeif not, I can create that in wiki23:09
eLtMosenok, will be able to write up annoucement and send to mailinglist tomorrow evening. good night y'all23:12
juicemenite!23:16

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