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juiceme | Oksana, hiya! :) | 10:19 |
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sicelo | good evening | 21:16 |
eLtMosen | ahoi sicelo! | 21:18 |
sicelo | how are you doing ? :) | 21:26 |
eLtMosen | very good! Hope the same for you ;) I am jumping between renovating my (wifes) living room and irc | 21:29 |
sicelo | hope you'll do a good job :p | 21:32 |
eLtMosen | first try in advanced triple color wall design. lots of ducktape. 7 doors to cover o.o i used 4x50meter already :P | 21:40 |
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juiceme | hiya! | 21:50 |
juiceme | sicelo o/ | 21:50 |
juiceme | eLtMosen o/ | 21:50 |
juiceme | renovation is nice thing to get your mind off the "real" work now and then... unless you overdo it like I did last summenr | 21:52 |
sicelo | hi juiceme | 21:56 |
juiceme | now, regarding the elections | 21:56 |
juiceme | hi | 21:56 |
juiceme | now, regarding the elections; the bylawa state that "If there are fewer than 4 candidates when the nominations close, the election cannot be held" | 21:56 |
sicelo | yes | 21:57 |
juiceme | as it happens, we do have exactly 4 candidates, and would have one more if m4r0v3r could have sent his acceptance in time | 21:58 |
juiceme | what I was to propose; that we should accept him because it is not his fault really the he could not post in time, he tried to | 21:59 |
sicelo | sorry my connection is very laggy | 21:59 |
juiceme | are you travelling now, sicelo? | 21:59 |
sicelo | i saw your email. and i agree regarding m40v3r, if his karma qualifies too | 21:59 |
juiceme | yes, I did not checkthat yet | 22:00 |
sicelo | i'm not travelling. i don't have ADSL/fiber here .. so im always on GPRS/3G :) | 22:01 |
sicelo | today it is not performing well at all | 22:01 |
juiceme | ah yes, it happens | 22:01 |
sicelo | in the email, you mention wikiwide as well. i did not understand that part | 22:03 |
juiceme | well, she was away and did not notice the nomination | 22:03 |
juiceme | but if she'd noticed, then maybe she'd accepted, I think | 22:04 |
juiceme | or at least she did not overright deny when I managed to chat with her today | 22:04 |
sicelo | i understand now. | 22:09 |
sicelo | just one thing i wish to clarify - is she in, or out, or netural? :) | 22:09 |
juiceme | well currently out I think. | 22:10 |
juiceme | as the nomination phase is over | 22:11 |
juiceme | I could not find m4r0v3r's maemo.org page, so either he's got differnt username on maemo.org and TMO, or he's not got one. | 22:13 |
juiceme | however his karma is enough, 373 points which I calculated just now by hand | 22:14 |
juiceme | so it looks we do have 5 registered candidates. | 22:14 |
juiceme | however I have not yet heard mosen's view on it. | 22:15 |
juiceme | eLtMosen, ping | 22:15 |
juiceme | it would have been good if we managed to get 7 candidates, then we could have formed council of 5 | 22:16 |
eLtMosen | yes, m4r0v3r should be accepted!! | 22:17 |
juiceme | good! | 22:17 |
sicelo | :) | 22:17 |
eLtMosen | i also hoped for 7 :/ | 22:17 |
sicelo | on the bright side .. we have more candidates this time than previously, afair | 22:18 |
juiceme | :) | 22:19 |
eLtMosen | at least 3 candidates drew the "no time" card. If only they knew that it is not a big problem to miss meetings anyway... It would be more efficiant already if we were 2 more people who share a little time that adds up if well organized. | 22:22 |
juiceme | yes, might be people think it is tedious... well time difference can be such, but we have managed with it in the past | 22:23 |
juiceme | tha actual council tasks are not that time-consuming | 22:24 |
sicelo | indeed. | 22:29 |
sicelo | mistaken assumptions | 22:30 |
juiceme | so, we'll enter the next pahse of elections now; elections will start on next friday. | 22:31 |
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eLtMosen | Do you need help with setting up the election? I assume there is a tool in maemo.org admin? | 22:36 |
juiceme | yes, there is a tool but it usually requires also a minimal amount of manual sql massaging to check for example that all people are included in the database | 22:37 |
juiceme | and to check that the people who *dont* want to be mass-mailed are not on the list. (there's a handful that have removed their accounts but still pop up in the database refresh...) | 22:38 |
eLtMosen | I could compose the announcement for friday then at least. I have no expierince with production servers and ight break things :p | 22:39 |
juiceme | hehe, no problem, I can handle the sql end. There's even a short faq/manual about how to do that I once wrote :) | 22:41 |
sicelo | i have a bit of SQL-fu and could hlep if need be | 22:41 |
sicelo | juiceme: this one, https://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_team/Creating_an_election ? | 22:41 |
juiceme | yes, that's how to use the election-GUI | 22:43 |
juiceme | and there's also a bit on the bottom of the page how it happens behind the curtain | 22:43 |
juiceme | it's all php-scripts, which are a bit of a tiff to debug as these things go :) | 22:44 |
juiceme | I myself regard php as a write-only-language, not suitable for light reading :) | 22:45 |
eLtMosen | php is like hot glue :D Productive at first, but better not touch it later. | 22:48 |
juiceme | hehe, I so much prefer nodejs for just about anything! | 22:50 |
juiceme | however midgard is heavily based on running pgp-snippets here and there, so we have to live with it | 22:51 |
juiceme | okay, any other business? | 22:54 |
juiceme | ah, one thing that happened last week that's kind of noteworthy :) | 22:55 |
juiceme | I got mail from Symantec that a person I had never hard of was requesting the right to create ssl certificates for maemo.org | 22:57 |
sicelo | :D | 22:57 |
sicelo | that's eerie | 22:57 |
eLtMosen | lol | 22:58 |
juiceme | first I thought this was a scam but the symantec mail was legit, and when I started an inquiry on why this was happening it turned out that it wsa an *old* Nokia request dated years and years back that had resurfaced :) | 22:58 |
sicelo | hah! | 22:59 |
juiceme | apparently symantec has been transferring their certificate business to another company (Digicert) and they for some reason had popped up the zombie request fom somewhere :) | 23:00 |
sicelo | talking about resurfacing emails - in connection with election, there was email from Dave Neary dated 23 Sept 2010 | 23:00 |
juiceme | mysterious are the ways :) | 23:00 |
eLtMosen | in germany we say "the grinders of bureaucracy grind slowly" | 23:00 |
juiceme | yes! | 23:01 |
juiceme | and old emails/requests/tickets never die, they just sink deep into the pools, to be carried up again geological ages passing | 23:02 |
sicelo | :p | 23:04 |
eLtMosen | so, i will go finish ducktape work. Should we send out another aouncement prior to sending vote tokens? | 23:07 |
juiceme | yes, I think it'd be correct to annonce the candidates on TMO and ML, and of course update the election page. | 23:08 |
juiceme | did we already have an election page, forgot to check? | 23:08 |
juiceme | if not, I can create that in wiki | 23:09 |
eLtMosen | ok, will be able to write up annoucement and send to mailinglist tomorrow evening. good night y'all | 23:12 |
juiceme | nite! | 23:16 |
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