IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2016-08-23

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eekkelundEvening :)21:46
pichloSo it is! ;)21:51
pichloreinob has sent his apologies, he will be late21:52
eekkelundHah :D Yea21:55
eekkelundSeems like others are also late :)21:55
reinobjust arrived home21:55
reinobneed a few minutes still21:55
reinob(Hallo :)21:55
eekkelundWe havent started, no hurry :)21:56
pichloHi reinob, you are early! ;)22:00
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pichloIs anything up today?22:07
pichloI will have to leave in 30 mins.22:08
eekkelundWe should rename our twitter account to maemo_council? And does somebody want to post first tweet?:)22:09
juicemehi!22:12
eekkelundHi :)22:12
juicemeeekkelund, what, I thought you alredy tweeted something last week :)22:13
juicemepichlo, let's try to get to the point soon then.22:14
eekkelundNaah, I didn't know what could be cool first tweet. And I didn't want to take honor of that :D22:14
juicemehokay22:14
reinobsorry for the delay. I'm here22:16
pichloYeah, not that we have lots of news to tweet22:16
juicemeso, how's the https://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Coding_Competition_2016 doing?22:17
reinobre. twitter: "Maemo Community Council" would be better (clearer). Our first tweet could be announcing the coding competition22:18
juicemeeekkelund, you asked me to check the #voting part. Seems to be OK, as we can use the voting engine pretty well. Just need to have a different election for each category22:18
eekkelundIt is doing ok I think, I haven't done anything to it last week. Does voting section look good. And still it is unclear for me should we start asking donations? If so I have to add boards PayPal,bank and if board has usable bitcoin22:19
eekkelundOkay thanks :)22:19
reinobOK "Maemo Community Council" is too long for twitter (WTF?) so Maemo Council it is22:19
juicemebitcoin is still not clear IMHO, but the bank account and paypal are usable.22:20
eekkelundreinob: I mean the username, which is now @maemo_org22:20
juicemereinob, there's a max character limit for twitter tags?22:20
reinobdont know but I just changed the name (not the username but the "descriptive" name) to "Maemo Council" because "Maemo Community Council" was too long and "Maemo Community" may be misleading22:21
reinobre. username I have no idea if it can be changed. would assume no22:21
eekkelundjuiceme: so we should start asking donations? I don't know PayPal or bank addresses which to add to wiki?22:21
eekkelundreinob: one can change it :)22:21
eekkelundI have changed mine once22:22
pichloWho still trusts bitcoin?22:22
juicemei think they are still on TMO banner, jus a moment22:22
reinobeekkelund: OK, then you can change it to maemo_council22:22
juicemeeekkelund, https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9585622:23
reinobas long as the board has the means to convert bitcoin to $$$ it should be OK22:23
juicemebitcoin is OK for transactions I think, just not for holding money tied into them for a long time...22:25
pichloIf you say so...22:26
pichloThe sama applies ti PayPal, BTW. Only for a different reason.22:27
pichlosama=same, ti=to22:27
reinobsee Neo900. With paypal you need to make sure you convert it to cash real quick22:29
juicemeyes... we do have a significant sum on paypal... I have meant to transfer it to DB but have not gotten to do it yet...22:31
eekkelundOkay I will add those to wiki page and we could announce that coding competition is coming sooooon so donations welcome?:)22:32
pichloThat's not the main reason. The main reason is that money in the bank earns interest. Money in PayPal does not.22:32
pichloNeo was a different case. The money never showed up in the first place.22:32
reinob"earns interest": we already have a few banks doing negative interest :)22:33
pichloWe are not quite there yet but may soon be... ;)22:33
juicemeyeah, with neo900 the problem was that paypal acted within their protective rules, but in that case the rules were against both seller and buyer... :(22:33
eekkelundI didn't get answer :(22:35
reinobto what? announcing CC?22:35
eekkelundThat it is coming soon and we start to take cc donations:)22:36
reinobsounds OK to me22:37
juicemesure, sounds pretty good to me too!22:39
pichloGotta go, gnite.22:40
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juicemethat was fast!22:41
eekkelundGN !:D22:41
juicemeso, aob?22:46
reinobsorry I had to reboot the laptop. systemd acts weird lately when updating (sid)22:48
juicemewell, that's the reason it is labelled "unstable"22:50
reinobyeah I know22:52
reinobBTW I've changed the twitter username to maemo_council22:52
reinobmatches description "Maemo Council"22:52
juicemeok... so when's the virginal tweet gonna be casted out? :D22:56
eekkelundthanks reinob :)22:56
eekkelundokay lets decide the first tweet and go to sleep?:D22:56
reinobI guess once eekkelund makes the announcement of the CC in talk.maemo.org when can then tweet about it with a link to the tmo thread22:57
juicemeagree22:57
eekkelundYea true, but should we have some kind of "first" tweet? And whom we can follow? NemoMobile, AsteroidOS, MerPorject, Jolla?22:58
reinobI guess there's no need to follow anything/anyone as normally nobody will be using that account, except when we post something, which hopefully other followers will read23:00
juicemeI am a bit off on the correct twitter protocol, as i don't use it. what's the significance of following someone's feed, is it a kind of acceptance?23:00
reinobkinda opposite to my personal account, where I follow people but nobody needs to follow me because I don't post23:01
reinobfollow = get updates from followed in your timeline. no acceptance or agreement or endorsement implied.23:01
reinob(in theory)23:01
eekkelundYea but when we follow, usually we get also followed and noticed easier. :)23:02
juicemethis all goes over my head :)23:03
reinobexactly. so we can follow anything that looks interesting/related to jolla/maemo/etc.23:03
juicemeokay, you two gurus decide on the protocol :)23:03
reinobI have to leave now. Will check twitter tomorrow and follow here or there things that are really trivially relevant23:04
reinobre. first tweet: eekkelund, you have more experience :)23:04
reinobbye bye!23:04
juicemeok, bye!23:04
eekkelundDamn.:D23:05
eekkelundBye :)23:05
eekkelundOh we should make newbie guide for app developing to wiki page !:)23:15
juicemeyes, makes sense.23:16
juicemeand indeed goides for each of our OS'es!23:17
eekkelundSFOS has fine guide on their wiki, Meego I don't know?, Nemo.. well.. somebody could do that as entry for competition;) and AsteroidOS I am not sure ahve to ask23:19
juiceme@endsormeans has nice faq's for the older maemo devices, 700 and 800 series23:21
eekkelundis this anyhow valid? https://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Coding_Competition_2016#App_Developer_Resources23:22
eekkelundatleast Nokia site is down and that is quite short :/23:22
eekkelundwe need also for N900 and for porting we can link hadk23:23
juicemeI think the SDK is still there, but not at the nokia site of course.23:23
eekkelundDo you want to update some part of the developing guide to wiki? Pretty plz?:))23:25
juicemeheee... ok I can try :)23:27
eekkelundYay :)23:27
juicemeprovided I find the time to do so... I will probably try to enlist others to do it :)23:28
eekkelundI think I will go to sleep, I have done 2 previous meeting minutes and will send them tomorrow :) Okay, if they just get done. That was request what I got from telegram group. There are many guys who would like to develop first app/thingy:)23:30
juicemegood!23:32
juicemegnite then!23:32
eekkelundGnite :)23:33

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