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| chem|st | juiceme: do you have the annual funds reports ready? (2015-$) | 02:39 |
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| juiceme | chem|st, yes, I have it more or less ready. | 12:41 |
| chem|st | juiceme: please make it more than less... proper reporting is a requirement | 15:10 |
| chem|st | when you got it ready send it to council for review | 15:11 |
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| reinob | hey there | 21:33 |
| pichlo | hello reinob | 21:39 |
| reinob | I guess there's not much going on (yet) | 21:39 |
| juiceme | hiya! | 21:41 |
| pichlo | we are the first ones, as far as I can tell | 21:41 |
| juiceme | sure :) | 21:41 |
| reinob | hey juiceme | 21:41 |
| pichlo | hello juiceme | 21:41 |
| pichlo | the forerunners ;) | 21:41 |
| juiceme | yes, always on time :) | 21:42 |
| reinob | any news from your side? | 21:42 |
| juiceme | well, I have been preparing the financical report | 21:42 |
| reinob | good | 21:42 |
| juiceme | and ported 2.0.2.24 to Hammerhead | 21:43 |
| juiceme | and rewrote ton of nodejs code | 21:43 |
| juiceme | ... | 21:43 |
| juiceme | so nothing special :) | 21:43 |
| reinob | I was away on holidays (sardinia). didn't do anything, which is kinda what I wanted :) | 21:43 |
| juiceme | the best way to spend a holiday :) | 21:44 |
| reinob | yup | 21:44 |
| pichlo | I disagree | 21:44 |
| juiceme | I managed to finish the roof I was doing with my bro | 21:44 |
| pichlo | I would die on a holiday like that | 21:44 |
| pichlo | doing nothing, not roofing | 21:44 |
| pichlo | die of boredom | 21:45 |
| reinob | it wasnt boring at all. wife and kids were there too :) | 21:45 |
| juiceme | I don't know... if definition of "didn't do anything" includes spearfishing with snorkeling gear on clear editerranean waters,... | 21:45 |
| juiceme | I would not die doing that :) | 21:45 |
| pichlo | ;) | 21:46 |
| juiceme | heh, s/editerranean/mediterranean/ | 21:46 |
| pichlo | no, but a fortnight on the beach is the ultimate killer for me | 21:47 |
| juiceme | ya, well that's why I specified the fishing part | 21:47 |
| pichlo | sadly, it akso happens to be my wife's dream holiday | 21:47 |
| pichlo | so you can guess what we do every year ;) | 21:48 |
| reinob | :) | 21:48 |
| juiceme | well, my other half burns very easily in the sun, which is why we *never* go to a beach holiday | 21:48 |
| juiceme | 6f0377b6d43b38f71d47b147 | 21:50 |
| juiceme | oops, wrong window | 21:50 |
| reinob | md5? | 21:51 |
| pichlo | cool password though | 21:51 |
| juiceme | md5 hash | 21:51 |
| pichlo | pity | 21:51 |
| juiceme | or combination of 2 hashes actually | 21:51 |
| pichlo | looks a bit like my wifi pwd | 21:51 |
| juiceme | one-time verification token for a webscript am testing | 21:52 |
| juiceme | ah indeed, I did find a bu there... | 21:55 |
| juiceme | if user tries to reset password twice in a row, two pending entries are created, and with bad luck the token is matched to the wrong one in verification, which makes it fail silently without informing the user... | 21:58 |
| reinob | sounds like the recent twitter fvck up :) | 21:58 |
| juiceme | hm. need to delete pending entry for the user if it exist when a new one comes in... | 21:58 |
| juiceme | no wonder | 21:58 |
| reinob | no timestamps/sorting? | 21:59 |
| juiceme | pretty often the train of thought goes similar rails on programmers... | 21:59 |
| juiceme | there's an aging timestamp, if the user does not respond to email in 24h the pending entry is deleted :) | 22:00 |
| juiceme | which means, yser may only retry logging in after 24 h :) | 22:00 |
| reinob | eekkelund just sent the minutes per e-mail | 22:12 |
| juiceme | nice! | 22:16 |
| juiceme | he has been busy, four minutes in one mail :) | 22:16 |
| reinob | yup. pretty concise but looks OK from what I can remember | 22:16 |
| juiceme | yes, some filtering is usually needed since a lot of our talk is not on topic :) | 22:17 |
| eekkelund | Sorry I try to attend the meeting but have some things to do at home :) | 22:18 |
| eekkelund | And hi everybody | 22:18 |
| juiceme | hi, no problem :) | 22:18 |
| reinob | hey | 22:19 |
| pichlo | hello eekkelund | 22:21 |
| pichlo | you did not miss anything, don't worry ;) | 22:21 |
| reinob | eekkelund: thanks for the minutes! | 22:21 |
| pichlo | whilst we are off-topic, does anyone know anything about ice skates? | 22:22 |
| reinob | nope :( | 22:23 |
| juiceme | pichlo, sure, what you need to know :) | 22:24 |
| pichlo | no offense rainob but I would not expect a positive answer from a Spaniard ;) | 22:24 |
| juiceme | though I guess you mean the figureskating ones, not ice-hockey... | 22:24 |
| pichlo | figure | 22:24 |
| juiceme | okay, too bad then :( | 22:25 |
| juiceme | but I guess the same things apply; skates need to be sharpened the right way and fit snugly to your feet. | 22:25 |
| eekkelund | quickly ontopic: how should i send twitter account login? | 22:26 |
| eekkelund | to you? | 22:26 |
| juiceme | and the more expensive ones are the better ones :) | 22:26 |
| reinob | :) | 22:26 |
| reinob | how will that work? each one of us gets the credentials? | 22:26 |
| juiceme | eekkelund, private message on irc? | 22:26 |
| reinob | is 2fa active? if so nobody other than you will be able to login | 22:27 |
| pichlo | or PM on TMO | 22:28 |
| pichlo | what's 2fa? | 22:29 |
| reinob | two-factor authentication | 22:29 |
| pichlo | IC, thanks | 22:30 |
| reinob | password + token received on mobile | 22:30 |
| reinob | I think it's called "login verification" on twitter. probably it makes sense to deactivate it in this case. Not sure if twitter foresees shared accounts, but I guess it should | 22:34 |
| juiceme | probably does not matter that much in our case | 22:37 |
| eekkelund | I deleted phone number which twitter added to account, "login verification" is not on. I think we can either tweet from our own accounts(if have one) using https://grouptweet.com/ maybe? Or then i will send password as private message, | 22:38 |
| pichlo | hopefully it won't ask for phone verification on every login | 22:38 |
| reinob | we can test it right now | 22:39 |
| pichlo | I don't do twatter, I havo idea how it works | 22:39 |
| pichlo | havo=have no | 22:39 |
| reinob | eekkelund: if you send me the login/password I can try logging in now | 22:39 |
| reinob | I don't know how private IRC can be. if you have your own e-mail server you can send it to me at reinob dot de which is also private | 22:40 |
| juiceme | I'm with pichlo, never ever tweeted even once. | 22:40 |
| reinob | I'm only passively there. Source of information and such. | 22:40 |
| pichlo | there are a LOT of companies using Twitter for updates | 22:41 |
| pichlo | sports centres etc | 22:41 |
| eekkelund | how secure irc is?:) | 22:41 |
| pichlo | they must have some provision for multiple people sharing the same login | 22:42 |
| reinob | I guess so. I can't imagine a single guy dealing will all twitter chit-chat for a whole company | 22:42 |
| juiceme | eekkelund, not secure really, but mostly OK for basic confidentiality | 22:42 |
| juiceme | the peotocol between client and server is plaintext | 22:43 |
| reinob | you could put login and pass in two separate pasebins and send me the links per e-mail | 22:43 |
| reinob | should be enough | 22:43 |
| juiceme | the protocol between servers *can* be encrypted | 22:43 |
| reinob | I'm using TLS here | 22:43 |
| juiceme | but server admins of course haave access to channel content | 22:44 |
| reinob | s/pasebins/pastebins/ in case it wasn clear | 22:44 |
| pichlo | what's wrong with email? | 22:44 |
| reinob | have latency problems again | 22:44 |
| juiceme | reinob, you're correct, should have said the protocol between client & server *can* be encrypted | 22:44 |
| reinob | if private<->private then OK | 22:45 |
| juiceme | pichlo, email can also be plaintext | 22:45 |
| juiceme | and often is | 22:45 |
| reinob | if google/yahoo/etc then better not | 22:45 |
| pichlo | ah, sure | 22:45 |
| pichlo | didn't consider publuc mail ;) | 22:45 |
| pichlo | I have my own | 22:46 |
| juiceme | reinob, usually with email client & server *can* be encrypted (but not have to) | 22:46 |
| pichlo | not own server, just own domain | 22:46 |
| reinob | I also have pgp. Only that today I noticed that my passphrase doesnt work anymore. Dont know what/where I've fvcked up | 22:46 |
| juiceme | and between servers, all bets are off :) | 22:46 |
| juiceme | most usually *not* encrypted | 22:46 |
| pichlo | hmm, true | 22:46 |
| pichlo | does it matter though? | 22:47 |
| pichlo | in this case, that is | 22:47 |
| reinob | not really. we're not like being targetted | 22:47 |
| juiceme | well if you have pgp, then it's okay | 22:47 |
| juiceme | reinob, everybody is targetted! | 22:47 |
| reinob | yeah but I need to find out why my passphrase doesnt work! so I avoid pgp for now | 22:47 |
| pichlo | or as I said earlier, PM on TMO | 22:47 |
| * juiceme stuffs more tinfoil in hat | 22:48 | |
| reinob | juiceme: your right. but the question is why/what would anyone do with our twitter credentials | 22:48 |
| pichlo | reinob, yes, that's what I meant | 22:49 |
| juiceme | well spammig first comes to mind | 22:49 |
| juiceme | just general mayhem and meanliness, happens every day | 22:49 |
| pichlo | how about... | 22:50 |
| pichlo | every odd char by TMI PM | 22:50 |
| pichlo | every even char by emaul | 22:50 |
| juiceme | ! | 22:50 |
| reinob | yes, but it's not like hijacking trump's account. who wants to spam in the name of maemo?! :) | 22:50 |
| pichlo | recipient reconstructs manually | 22:51 |
| pichlo | TMI=TMO | 22:51 |
| pichlo | death to virtual keyboards! | 22:52 |
| reinob | souzdssounds like a plan | 22:52 |
| reinob | sh! you blew it! :))) | 22:52 |
| reinob | going to reboot router. I can't stand this anymore | 22:52 |
| pichlo | poor reinob. good luck! | 22:53 |
| juiceme | :p | 22:54 |
| eekkelund | Okay i will save password as pdf and encrypt it with password, send pdf via email and send password for pdf in PM here? | 22:55 |
| eekkelund | send pdf password here^ | 22:55 |
| reinob | am back | 22:55 |
| reinob | eekkelund: OK | 22:55 |
| juiceme | soundz like a plan :) | 22:56 |
| reinob | how do you decrypt a pdf? | 22:57 |
| juiceme | sha1 | 22:57 |
| juiceme | :) | 22:57 |
| reinob | hope mupdf does it | 22:57 |
| juiceme | then it begs a question how to decrypt it... | 22:57 |
| eekkelund | There is option in libreoffice and commandline tool which name I don't remember | 22:58 |
| reinob | mupdf -p password file.pdf | 22:58 |
| reinob | OK | 22:58 |
| eekkelund | i am not sure if libreoffice encrypts it | 22:58 |
| eekkelund | how it encrypts it* | 22:58 |
| reinob | pdf is pdf | 22:58 |
| eekkelund | so to council email? | 22:58 |
| reinob | yup | 22:59 |
| pichlo | good plan | 23:02 |
| pichlo | any format would work | 23:02 |
| pichlo | a screenshot with the pwd saved as jpg | 23:02 |
| pichlo | then encrypted zip | 23:03 |
| pichlo | ;) | 23:03 |
| reinob | pdf received and successfully decoded :) | 23:03 |
| juiceme | I still am unsure about the strength of the cipher used by mupdf | 23:04 |
| eekkelund | pichlo do you get my PM ?:) | 23:04 |
| reinob | it tells me username and password don't match the records | 23:06 |
| reinob | normally username should be e-mail. I tried with what you told me with and without @ | 23:06 |
| reinob | juiceme: pdf is pdf. as long as the client is compatible it will deal with it, and it did | 23:07 |
| juiceme | well I got no PM's... | 23:08 |
| reinob | sorry had a typo. testing again | 23:08 |
| reinob | I'm in! | 23:09 |
| reinob | if you see the e-mail, that's me ("Chrome on Linux" from Munich :) | 23:11 |
| pichlo | eekkelund, yes I did | 23:11 |
| pichlo | guys, gotta log out now | 23:13 |
| juiceme | pichlo, gnite :) | 23:13 |
| reinob | OK | 23:13 |
| reinob | I will also leave soon | 23:13 |
| pichlo | bye! | 23:13 |
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| reinob | I'm @maemo_org's first follower. I think | 23:13 |
| juiceme | okay, bye to ya too :) | 23:13 |
| reinob | OK with telephone I can login with my account and with maemo_org account simultaneously (not really, you swap between the two but it's quick) | 23:16 |
| reinob | with browser you can't. you need a separate browser. twitter is so 90s | 23:16 |
| juiceme | heh | 23:17 |
| juiceme | cookies get overridden :) | 23:17 |
| reinob | exactly | 23:17 |
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| juiceme | pichlo, welcome back :) | 23:18 |
| reinob | eekkelund: I'll check the settings here and there (like "anyone can DM me" should be -- for now -- active) | 23:18 |
| reinob | do you want to write the first tweet? | 23:19 |
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| eekkelund | Okay good, sorry I was busy again, I sent the pdf pass to juice | 23:25 |
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| eekkelund | pichlo you here? | 23:25 |
| eekkelund | ah :/ | 23:25 |
| eekkelund | What should be our first tweet?:) | 23:26 |
| eekkelund | If any good describtion succestions, please write description to us :) | 23:26 |
| reinob | gotta go now. feel free to post some hello world tweet | 23:30 |
| reinob | talk next week! | 23:30 |
| eekkelund | Or anyone who wants to tweet first tweet can do so :) | 23:33 |
| juiceme | you two are the tweetmeisters, so you should do it | 23:39 |
| juiceme | if I start twittering there's no end to it. | 23:39 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:39 |
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