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warfare | I just replaced all SSL certificates as the others were to expire today (except wiki) - I just missed tmo yesterday. | 11:52 |
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eekkelund | Allo :) | 21:42 |
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pichlo | hello, sorry i'm late | 21:56 |
pichlo | anybody here? | 21:56 |
eekkelund | im here :D | 22:01 |
pichlo | phew! | 22:01 |
pichlo | i am at home for a change, trying to set up an irc client on a pc | 22:02 |
pichlo | sooooo complicated! ;) | 22:02 |
pichlo | no wonder no one uses it | 22:03 |
eekkelund | haha :D which client? | 22:03 |
eekkelund | I have irssi running on server in screen :) | 22:03 |
pichlo | that's way beyond me | 22:04 |
pichlo | nettalk | 22:04 |
pichlo | but am hapy to listen to suggestions | 22:04 |
pichlo | nettalk didn't impress me so far | 22:05 |
pichlo | i couldn't even figure out how to join this meeting | 22:05 |
pichlo | am connecting from jolla ;) | 22:05 |
eekkelund | hmm, I havent used gui clients :/ | 22:06 |
eekkelund | but I have heard somebody using xChat | 22:06 |
pichlo | i was disillusioned with xchat on n900 | 22:08 |
pichlo | so much so i never want to see it again | 22:08 |
eekkelund | Hahaha :D okay I see | 22:09 |
reinob | hello there | 22:21 |
reinob | warfare: thanks for updating the certificates! | 22:21 |
reinob | pichlo: I also use irssi, connecting to znc (a bouncer) running on an always-on server. this way I can just connect/reconnect from any client while bouncer maintains the "persitent" single connection | 22:23 |
reinob | it's much easier than it sounds | 22:23 |
pichlo | reinob, I'm glad to hear that because it sounds fiendishly complicated ;) | 22:26 |
reinob | shout if you need help. do you have a server/vps available? otherwise I could let you use mine so irssi logs in there with your credentials and the server (znc) maintains your connection | 22:30 |
pichlo | thanks reinob, but I have very basic difficulties | 22:34 |
pichlo | i am going down the list of irc clients from a "top 7" website | 22:36 |
reinob | for Windows or for Linux? | 22:36 |
pichlo | already eliminated nettalk, mirc and quassel | 22:36 |
pichlo | windows | 22:37 |
reinob | ah OK | 22:37 |
pichlo | all of them advertised as "newbie friendly" | 22:37 |
pichlo | hahaha, i cannot heads or tails of either of them | 22:37 |
pichlo | cannot get | 22:38 |
reinob | there's no such thing. in the end you need a scrolling screen where you see the stuff and a command line where you type your commands and messages. | 22:38 |
reinob | (no such thing as newbie friendly I mean) | 22:38 |
pichlo | my favourite is HydraIRC | 22:40 |
pichlo | boasting to br the most newbie friendly | 22:40 |
pichlo | its website shows up as a blank page ;) | 22:40 |
reinob | :) | 22:40 |
reinob | forget quassel as well. it's AFAIK a combination of client and server (similar to the usual combination of client and bouncer) | 22:42 |
pichlo | I am giving up | 22:43 |
pichlo | but hey, no harm done | 22:43 |
reinob | there should be something like irssi (in a "dos" box) in Windows | 22:43 |
reinob | otherwise I could also give you a real shell account so you can use irssi from anywhere using a ssh client (I hope you have that in Windows! :) | 22:44 |
pichlo | this is probably the last tine I happen to be at home in Tuesday | 22:44 |
reinob | (will be back in a while. children are still not sleeping..) | 22:44 |
juiceme | hiya all! | 22:44 |
pichlo | shell clent? | 22:44 |
pichlo | are you serious? | 22:45 |
pichlo | which part of "too complicated" do you not understand? | 22:45 |
juiceme | warfare, hi! and thanks for replacing the certs | 22:45 |
pichlo | I will just stick to what U know just about works | 22:46 |
pichlo | U = I | 22:46 |
juiceme | pichlo, seriously windoze... haven't you got a single linux computer in the house (except for mobile devices..) ? | 22:47 |
reinob | pichlo: there's nothing difficult about command line. it's the natural environment for irc. you really just have a command line and a scrolling window of output. | 22:48 |
pichlo | juiceme, no :( | 22:48 |
juiceme | well it's about time you install one, then! | 22:48 |
pichlo | reinob, I said I give up | 22:49 |
reinob | OK | 22:49 |
juiceme | or even, run a linux instance in a VM | 22:49 |
pichlo | I will stick to the IRC client on Jolla | 22:49 |
juiceme | like virtualbox for example, it should be available for windoze too | 22:49 |
reinob | BTW Win7Mac: thanks for sending the invitation to the GA. | 22:49 |
pichlo | it (just about) works and thete is VERY little chance of me ever having an opportunity to use anything else | 22:50 |
pichlo | today was a very rare exception | 22:50 |
reinob | although slightly heretical, I find that since I have my Motorola (Android) I use it for many things for which I previously would have taken out the laptop. Even irc (using juicessh ssh client) is pretty usable | 22:51 |
juiceme | pichlo, if you take on the offer by reinob, you can run an irssi session there and connect to it from SSH of your pc/jolla/N900 | 22:51 |
juiceme | and then you will never miss a word :) | 22:52 |
juiceme | that's the simplest thing to do | 22:52 |
juiceme | and that is why I don't use irc client on jolla, just ssh | 22:52 |
reinob | or use the jolla irc client connecting to the bouncer. I actually did that for some time. This way you can seamlessly connect from jolla irc client *and* from any other irc client, simultaneously even :) | 22:52 |
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reinob | OK. That was a statement :) | 22:55 |
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reinob | welcome back :) | 22:56 |
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reinob | do we have anything to discuss? I still have like 10-20 min "available". After that I'm offline for the next two weeks :) | 23:02 |
Win7Mac | hi | 23:03 |
reinob | hey | 23:03 |
juiceme | hiya! | 23:03 |
juiceme | thanks for the GA invite :) | 23:03 |
Win7Mac | sure, was about time... | 23:03 |
Win7Mac | topics today? | 23:04 |
Win7Mac | SSL thankfully resolved | 23:05 |
juiceme | well, are there still discussable thingies on the competition? | 23:05 |
Win7Mac | juiceme, what the eV papers chem|st sent you, processed? | 23:06 |
Win7Mac | what *about | 23:07 |
juiceme | those what I have are for the tax-excemption status. Unfortunately I did not print them out before going to my summer leave so I need to do that when I am back at work next week. | 23:08 |
eekkelund | Sorry, I have to go :/ | 23:08 |
eekkelund | See you | 23:08 |
juiceme | eekkelund, bye | 23:09 |
reinob | bye! | 23:09 |
Win7Mac | juiceme, ok. Set a reminder ;) | 23:09 |
juiceme | will do that. | 23:10 |
Win7Mac | still house building? | 23:10 |
pichlo | guys, looks like I have nothing to contribute today so I will go too | 23:10 |
pichlo | bye! | 23:10 |
reinob | see you! | 23:10 |
Win7Mac | yeah, bye | 23:10 |
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Win7Mac | meeting minutes are pending | 23:12 |
juiceme | Win7Mac, no, am at home now. We got the roof done without any hickups, real good! | 23:12 |
Win7Mac | great | 23:12 |
juiceme | enjoying my last holiday week before back to work | 23:13 |
Win7Mac | and no printer at home? | 23:13 |
juiceme | altough there are more or less buildingsh-ly things around here too... just today I climbed up the roof to do saome antenna repair :) | 23:14 |
Win7Mac | ;) | 23:14 |
juiceme | well I have printer but the one at office is much better. | 23:15 |
juiceme | Last thing I did when I was at work is I tried printing the docs but for some reason evince (ubuntu's default pdf handler) refused to print. | 23:16 |
juiceme | and I was in such a hurry I did not have time to debug why... since the documents rendered ok on the screen | 23:16 |
Win7Mac | ok, you'll sort it out, I'm sure ;) | 23:17 |
juiceme | sure, when I get to it :) | 23:17 |
reinob | you can just usually "lpr file.pdf" and be happy | 23:17 |
reinob | viewing and printing are different things | 23:17 |
juiceme | reinob, I'll try that too, maybe it works better | 23:18 |
reinob | I use mupdf to view pdf, but it doesn't print, so I just use lpr. Works nicely (at home) | 23:18 |
juiceme | I'm lazy and mostly use evince | 23:18 |
juiceme | sometimes when there are broken documents I use the console pdftools | 23:19 |
reinob | I still haven't found a good pdf viewer. I use mupdf or even google docs viewer | 23:19 |
reinob | well gotta leave now. we need to finish packing and tomorrow we're leaving early in the morning. | 23:20 |
reinob | talk in two weeks again | 23:21 |
reinob | bye! | 23:21 |
juiceme | OK, so I'll go too, then. | 23:22 |
juiceme | bye! | 23:22 |
Win7Mac | ok, bye | 23:22 |
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