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| HtheB | heya | 21:03 |
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| juiceme | hi! | 21:12 |
| HtheB | what's up | 21:12 |
| juiceme | HtheB how are you? | 21:12 |
| HtheB | I'm fine thanks | 21:13 |
| juiceme | noce & comfortable :) | 21:13 |
| juiceme | s/noce/nice/ | 21:13 |
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| juiceme | M4rtinK hi | 21:13 |
| HtheB | o/ M4rtinK | 21:13 |
| M4rtinK | hi! :) | 21:14 |
| juiceme | hmm meeting is due to start in half an hour I guess... I'm early now... | 21:29 |
| HtheB | so am I | 21:30 |
| HtheB | 21:00 over here | 22:01 |
| HtheB | it's time guys | 22:01 |
| HtheB | who do we miss? | 22:01 |
| juiceme | hiya! | 22:09 |
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| HtheB | yo | 22:15 |
| juiceme | yo-yo :) | 22:16 |
| reinob | yo-yo-yo :)) | 22:20 |
| reinob | installing new saifish update right now.. | 22:20 |
| reinob | be back in a few minutes | 22:20 |
| juiceme | :) | 22:20 |
| reinob | still updating.. | 22:27 |
| reinob | are we all here? | 22:27 |
| juiceme | me & HtheB are | 22:28 |
| HtheB | present | 22:28 |
| reinob | OK | 22:30 |
| reinob | I hoped Win7Mac would be here. About e-mail (lack of) communication with warfare | 22:31 |
| juiceme | yes, I thought of that too. | 22:32 |
| juiceme | managed to understand part of it. | 22:32 |
| reinob | (sailfish update went OK. now sd card correctly mounted within android :) | 22:32 |
| juiceme | with my not-so-good german | 22:32 |
| juiceme | good. | 22:33 |
| juiceme | starting update myself now :) | 22:33 |
| reinob | The thing is AFAIK some links at maemo.org (terms of use, etc.) refer to Hildon Foundation et al. We need some search-and-replace being done | 22:33 |
| juiceme | okay | 22:34 |
| juiceme | could be done server-side? | 22:34 |
| chem|st | juiceme: tasked for warfare since the day we handed over | 22:35 |
| juiceme | good | 22:35 |
| chem|st | juiceme: just like paperwork, tax statements and stufff | 22:35 |
| reinob | I don't know where the documents are stored, I only have access to www1.maemo.org but I don't think maemo.org website is there, or is it? | 22:35 |
| reinob | definitely not. apache is installed but no sites enabled :) | 22:36 |
| juiceme | mmh, but it runs not on apache but on blog software itself | 22:37 |
| reinob | ah OK. didn't (even) know that :) | 22:38 |
| HtheB | what about the email that we got | 22:47 |
| reinob | from Win7Mac? | 22:47 |
| HtheB | yeah | 22:47 |
| reinob | it shows his attempts at contacting warfare.. | 22:47 |
| HtheB | what exactly is going on? | 22:48 |
| reinob | so he basically asks us to continue with it. I guess language skills are not a requirement, but I happen to know German, so if needed I'll try to contact him | 22:48 |
| reinob | HtheB: some parts of maemo.org website (terms of use, etc.) refer to Hildon Foundation and should be updated to refer to Maemo e.V. | 22:49 |
| HtheB | isnt maemo a part of hildon foundation anymore? | 22:49 |
| juiceme | not really | 22:50 |
| chem|st | HtheB: HiFo is no more | 22:50 |
| reinob | oh hi chemist | 22:50 |
| chem|st | everything is MCeV for quiet some time now | 22:50 |
| juiceme | everything was given over to MCeV | 22:50 |
| juiceme | yes | 22:50 |
| chem|st | reinob: I am not here, you do not see me :) | 22:51 |
| reinob | chem|st: is this something you could take care of? or could I get access to the relevant server and work my way around it and (if all goes OK) do the changes myself? | 22:52 |
| chem|st | reinob: and for that, we need warfare :) | 22:54 |
| chem|st | we need him for a lot more than that but the other stuff is more juiceme's and my concern | 22:54 |
| reinob | is he the only one? isn't there a team? like joerg_rw and techstaff and stuff | 22:55 |
| chem|st | reinob: joerg was booted some time ago | 22:55 |
| chem|st | xes might know how to get there | 22:56 |
| * warfare waves. | 22:56 | |
| reinob | ah OK. I guess we are in need of an overview. | 22:56 |
| warfare | Sorry, real life took over. | 22:56 |
| reinob | hey warfare! | 22:56 |
| chem|st | hey | 22:56 |
| reinob | even if this is my personal opinion: no need to be sorry. we all do stuff on a voluntary basis. Win7Mac was missing some feedback from you, that is all. | 22:56 |
| chem|st | warfare: I know you are busy and such, and it very much seems like people are bored when things like "terms" get that prominent again :) | 22:57 |
| reinob | :) | 22:57 |
| warfare | :D | 22:57 |
| chem|st | warfare: but I think we voided our chance to become NPO | 22:58 |
| chem|st | for 2015 | 22:58 |
| warfare | Damn. | 22:58 |
| reinob | so now to the (one) topic at hand: would it be possible to delegate to one of us so that we can change this and that on the maemo.org site (terms of use, code of conduct, etc.) | 22:58 |
| chem|st | I need to read up on that as taxes are settled every 24months | 22:58 |
| reinob | does it matter if we are non-profit or not? I mean, we are de facto non-profit anyway | 22:59 |
| warfare | As long as we don't have a profit of >5k€ it doesn't matter. | 23:02 |
| reinob | OK. we don't even have membership fees (yet?), so it should be easy to stay below that line | 23:03 |
| warfare | regarding all this terms of use/code of conduct, I'd just add chem|st and reinob to the maemo.org admin group. Is that ok with everyone? | 23:03 |
| reinob | OK | 23:03 |
| HtheB | reinob: what if we have suddenly <5k? | 23:06 |
| HtheB | err | 23:06 |
| HtheB | >5k | 23:06 |
| reinob | that's for the board to take care of. But I guess it might mean that we'd need to do a tax declaration and eventually pay some tax. Not my field of expertise.. | 23:07 |
| warfare | If we have >5k in income, we could just spend some money for hardware upgrades/whatever is sensible until we are below 5k of profit. | 23:09 |
| juiceme | hi sorry I was afk | 23:13 |
| juiceme | did I miss anything drastic? | 23:13 |
| chem|st | warfare: it is more that we do not need to write commercial tax reports each year than exceedign those limits | 23:14 |
| reinob | juiceme: warfare and chem|st kindly joined us. warfare offered to give chem|st and me access to do the required changes to terms of use and code of conduct and such | 23:15 |
| chem|st | being so low profile we need to hand in books every 3 years with a request to stay NPO, instead of annual koerperschaftsteuer-anmeldung | 23:16 |
| juiceme | good | 23:16 |
| warfare | reinob: done, you should now be able to edit anything on maemo.org. chem|st already had those permissions. | 23:26 |
| reinob | maemo.org as in www1.maemo.org? I have ssh access there (even w/ sudo) but that's not where the website is. or? | 23:28 |
| reinob | wait. you mean directly from the website (midgard). I was thinking ssh. OK | 23:30 |
| warfare | reinob: you should have a small floating toolbar on the top. | 23:30 |
| reinob | yes yes. I do. sorry about the confusion. now I need to learn my way around it :) | 23:31 |
| chem|st | warfare: then it was a matter of finding that stuff, right? | 23:32 |
| chem|st | reinob: be VERY careful, some stuff is written into CSS as people (joerg,me,others) had no clue how to get a page cahnged and there was already things in the CSS | 23:33 |
| warfare | midgard is a big fscking mess. | 23:34 |
| chem|st | just an example on how sideways that mess went | 23:34 |
| reinob | thanks. I usually don't touch anything until I'm completely sure :) but all warnings are good :) | 23:34 |
| chem|st | reinob: that is another issue, you do not even know if you have done something wrong just from moving around in there | 23:35 |
| chem|st | well, thanks reinob for attempting to take care, hope you aren't the last one trying to go down that dungeon | 23:36 |
| chem|st | I am out for today... | 23:37 |
| reinob | cheers. Will see what I can do. Can't promise time or competence though :) | 23:37 |
| chem|st | took me an hour to find the CSS to post that Nokia statement to the frontpage... took me another hour to find it again :) | 23:39 |
| chem|st | bb | 23:39 |
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