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| HtheB | juiceme reinob ? | 21:55 |
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| peterleinchen | hi | 22:01 |
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| Win7Mac | hey there | 22:03 |
| juiceme | hiya all! | 22:07 |
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| HtheB | hey | 22:18 |
| HtheB | guys | 22:19 |
| HtheB | I'm stating the meeting | 22:19 |
| HtheB | we're already too late | 22:19 |
| HtheB | starting* | 22:19 |
| peterleinchen | htheb, yep. who joined last? ;) | 22:19 |
| HtheB | not me :) | 22:21 |
| peterleinchen | I contacted the "guy who wanted to get his garage account removed" | 22:22 |
| HtheB | Nice | 22:22 |
| HtheB | what any reaction? | 22:22 |
| peterleinchen | he replied but only once, so I do not know about his garage mail forwarder | 22:22 |
| peterleinchen | but I guess it was still active | 22:22 |
| juiceme | did anybody ask techstaff about the accountremoval? | 22:23 |
| peterleinchen | I forwarded him to send his request to techstaff | 22:23 |
| juiceme | good :) | 22:23 |
| HtheB | great | 22:23 |
| peterleinchen | but I got no feedback until now | 22:23 |
| HtheB | alright | 22:23 |
| HtheB | lets just wait a little bit | 22:23 |
| HtheB | if no reply: case closed | 22:23 |
| peterleinchen | so it seems the garage bouncer was / is still acitve after deactivating account | 22:24 |
| peterleinchen | but yeah wait for another reply, else ... | 22:24 |
| HtheB | indeed | 22:25 |
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| HtheB | juiceme: thanks for the minutes | 22:25 |
| HtheB | it was great | 22:25 |
| HtheB | Todays topics are about finalizing the rules for the competition | 22:25 |
| HtheB | automatic calculation of election results | 22:26 |
| HtheB | and discussing spam handling with techstaff. | 22:26 |
| HtheB | I dont know if we could get in touch right now with the techstaff though | 22:26 |
| peterleinchen | first I would like to know about status of price awards we (board) already have | 22:26 |
| juiceme | HtheB, no problem. Only I do have a lots to do so it is a fact I just cannot get 'em ready the next morning... try to write up during the following week anyway. | 22:28 |
| HtheB | no prob | 22:28 |
| HtheB | peterleinchen: good question | 22:28 |
| juiceme | the election results calculation is a kind of a long-haul thingy; it would be nice to have working but might take a lot of tinkering to get working correctly. | 22:29 |
| HtheB | cant we use some third party program? | 22:30 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, did xou need to trigger it manually all the time? | 22:30 |
| juiceme | about the prizes for the competition, currently there are promises but no devices collected yet. | 22:30 |
| juiceme | I think we should probably start a topic on TMO about it. | 22:30 |
| Win7Mac | yeah, we need to collect some | 22:31 |
| HtheB | juiceme: people respect your posts more then mine :-) | 22:31 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 22:31 |
| HtheB | I'm sure you will get more attention with a post on TMO then I od | 22:31 |
| HtheB | do* | 22:31 |
| juiceme | peterleinchen, yes, manually every time. I have the impression though that it has been working some tie in the past, altough I never have seen it happen. | 22:31 |
| Win7Mac | Should be a blog post so author is "CommunityCouncil" | 22:31 |
| juiceme | HtheB really? how so? You'e moderator ad all... :) | 22:32 |
| HtheB | juiceme: about the election results: why not just use a third party for election stuff? | 22:32 |
| HtheB | juiceme: Thats the problem... I'm a moderator | 22:32 |
| HtheB | not everyone likes moderators :P | 22:32 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac, yes, that would be best opening I think. | 22:32 |
| HtheB | I'm like a dad of TMO :P | 22:32 |
| peterleinchen | htheb, but how to integrate such 3rd into Midgard??? | 22:32 |
| Win7Mac | third party for election stuff? | 22:32 |
| juiceme | HtheB 3rd party? | 22:32 |
| HtheB | I dont know, some sort of website? | 22:33 |
| Win7Mac | anybody said third party? | 22:33 |
| * HtheB hides | 22:33 | |
| juiceme | what? why on earth, when we have on infrastructure for it, intgrated to our user base | 22:33 |
| Win7Mac | I mean, whatever works, but... | 22:34 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, which is not working :) | 22:34 |
| juiceme | our election system is one of the best pieces of works we have... | 22:34 |
| HtheB | http://ballotbin.com/ | 22:34 |
| juiceme | peterleinchen it works perfectly | 22:34 |
| HtheB | the first result on Google | 22:34 |
| juiceme | only manual bit needed is run the ballots thru openSTV after the election and post the results :) | 22:35 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme, did you try to hunt down the error with Woody? | 22:35 |
| Win7Mac | If not, please try again? | 22:35 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, that is okay to me :) | 22:35 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac I have to admit I cannot remember if I ever asked woody about it. | 22:35 |
| Win7Mac | he built it afaik? | 22:35 |
| peterleinchen | I guess you did | 22:35 |
| juiceme | yes, it is woody's legacy | 22:35 |
| juiceme | we have only tightened bits here and there after that. | 22:36 |
| Win7Mac | why not use the old one? | 22:36 |
| juiceme | last season me and wikiwide added the personal-url-links to the election mails | 22:37 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac you mean the fully manual one? | 22:37 |
| HtheB | juiceme: is there a way to see how many active users we have on tmo? | 22:38 |
| juiceme | that is still doable, however the php engine works pretty good | 22:38 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme, idk, the last "working one" before you tweaked it | 22:38 |
| HtheB | We need to have some big campain going on | 22:38 |
| HtheB | to get MORE votes | 22:38 |
| juiceme | HtheB yes I guess... do you mean how many have logged in for a past week or so? | 22:38 |
| HtheB | and have MORE people involved regarding elections | 22:38 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac it is not broken, the tweak we added is just handling links in the mail | 22:39 |
| Win7Mac | sure that's all? | 22:39 |
| juiceme | yes | 22:39 |
| peterleinchen | win7mac, and the other not-automatic-calculation was broken before | 22:40 |
| juiceme | HtheB when an election is launched, the mails go to all maemo accounts (but not TMO accounts) | 22:40 |
| Win7Mac | automatic-calculation is what im talking about | 22:41 |
| HtheB | juiceme, thats the problem! | 22:41 |
| juiceme | as it is, community members is defined as people who do have a maemo.org account | 22:41 |
| juiceme | people with only TMO account and no maemo account do not count | 22:41 |
| HtheB | 90 % of tmoi doesnt even know about it | 22:41 |
| HtheB | tmo | 22:42 |
| peterleinchen | and for all that do not know both can/should be linked | 22:42 |
| HtheB | why not just do it for 1 change: | 22:42 |
| Win7Mac | last time auto-calculation worked: http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=37 | 22:42 |
| juiceme | and if we would like to change that, it would be a major overhaul of the whole system. For example, how would you relate current karma with that? | 22:42 |
| HtheB | add tmo email addresses as well | 22:42 |
| HtheB | to see what will happen | 22:42 |
| HtheB | and how many votes we can get | 22:42 |
| HtheB | juiceme: post counts? | 22:43 |
| HtheB | total likes? | 22:43 |
| Win7Mac | HtheB, there is no way to use the system besides "as is" | 22:43 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac are you sure election 37 was calculated automatically? | 22:43 |
| juiceme | howcan you be sure? | 22:43 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: we have the best coders in house ffs | 22:44 |
| Win7Mac | err... I'm believing here... ;) | 22:44 |
| HtheB | why cant we just do something for this!? | 22:44 |
| juiceme | HtheB that would be a major overhaul of the community! | 22:44 |
| Win7Mac | probably a tweak here and there | 22:44 |
| juiceme | I rather would encourage people to register a maemo.org account! | 22:44 |
| HtheB | ... | 22:44 |
| HtheB | it's just fucked up that TMO is not MO | 22:45 |
| HtheB | sorry for the language | 22:45 |
| HtheB | but it is | 22:45 |
| juiceme | well it is part of our history | 22:45 |
| HtheB | I dont see ANY reason why it shouldn't | 22:45 |
| HtheB | juiceme: dont stay in the past | 22:45 |
| juiceme | :p | 22:45 |
| peterleinchen | htheb, right. why it should NOT | 22:45 |
| Win7Mac | ^^ at least that is what I've heard for years, I'm no expert though | 22:45 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac, help me out here, it's you that designed our community charter... | 22:46 |
| peterleinchen | gmo was/is the master database | 22:46 |
| peterleinchen | then we have wmo and tmo (itt) | 22:47 |
| peterleinchen | all history | 22:47 |
| juiceme | yes | 22:47 |
| Win7Mac | the different DBs are the problem | 22:47 |
| HtheB | yes, history stays in the history | 22:47 |
| HtheB | we should look to the future | 22:47 |
| Win7Mac | yes | 22:47 |
| HtheB | we can't stay like this in the future | 22:47 |
| peterleinchen | no argues against changing | 22:47 |
| peterleinchen | but one should know how to !!! | 22:47 |
| HtheB | and it's beta for YEARS now... | 22:47 |
| Win7Mac | HtheB, that is non-fixable by any of US | 22:48 |
| peterleinchen | and have the manpower / knowledge to do so | 22:48 |
| peterleinchen | Win7Mac, agree | 22:48 |
| Win7Mac | it's been discussed to death years ago | 22:48 |
| Win7Mac | ~2012 | 22:48 |
| HtheB | yes discussed.. and now, we need to take ACTION | 22:48 |
| HtheB | discussing it doesnt lead to anywhere... | 22:48 |
| HtheB | we need to do SOMETHING | 22:48 |
| HtheB | not just discussing it | 22:48 |
| Win7Mac | we could go wordpress... really? | 22:48 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: much better imo! | 22:49 |
| HtheB | as long as its working right | 22:49 |
| Win7Mac | you port all that funcionabilities? | 22:49 |
| HtheB | :D | 22:49 |
| HtheB | what we can do is: | 22:49 |
| HtheB | do some linking | 22:49 |
| juiceme | one theoretical way of achieving it would be to somehow harmonize the user databases of TMO and MO, and have kind of common credentials that would allow you access to both from just one set of authentication service, but that's fairly complicated due to the legacy systems we have, even as the machines are running next-to-eachother... | 22:49 |
| HtheB | tmo auto link to mo | 22:49 |
| Win7Mac | write extensions for all that shite we have? | 22:49 |
| HtheB | back in the days I was confused that I had to reregister for a website that I've already registered... | 22:50 |
| HtheB | (tmo and mo that is) | 22:50 |
| juiceme | HtheB how much do you know about re-engineering legacy systems... You should know how difficult it is, working in the IT industry yourself :) | 22:50 |
| HtheB | sure, im not saying that its not hard, but it's also not impossible | 22:51 |
| HtheB | there has to be at least a way to auto generate mo accounts | 22:51 |
| HtheB | based on the tmo usernames | 22:51 |
| juiceme | nothing is impossible when all we have is data and SW. | 22:51 |
| HtheB | :) | 22:51 |
| juiceme | but not impossible is often very far from possible | 22:52 |
| juiceme | or let's put it this way:: someone needs to do it | 22:52 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme, right | 22:52 |
| Win7Mac | not me | 22:52 |
| juiceme | someone with skills, time and drive | 22:52 |
| juiceme | so who is volunteering? | 22:52 |
| HtheB | I would say: put it on tmo | 22:53 |
| peterleinchen | let me be the nobody in that game ,) | 22:53 |
| juiceme | ah, the "nobody did it" :) | 22:53 |
| Win7Mac | I mean anybody could do it... | 22:53 |
| peterleinchen | htheb, what to put on tmo??? | 22:53 |
| Win7Mac | anybody, you around? ;) | 22:53 |
| HtheB | a message for this job | 22:53 |
| HtheB | as volunteer | 22:53 |
| peterleinchen | htheb, go ahead. how many volunteers do you expect? | 22:54 |
| Win7Mac | hehe, something for CC... | 22:54 |
| juiceme | "wanted; skillful SWDEV with 3...5 years of free time to work on a challenging refactoring/rewrite project" :) | 22:54 |
| peterleinchen | besides they (he she) would need access to the heart of mo ... | 22:54 |
| Win7Mac | right | 22:55 |
| HtheB | nice task for Dave999 | 22:55 |
| HtheB | (haha!) | 22:55 |
| juiceme | and more, think about the problem that you'd need to tweak a live system with thousands of users all the time. | 22:55 |
| HtheB | ok another way to do: | 22:55 |
| juiceme | try to modify it *a-lot* without breaking it and no downtime.. | 22:55 |
| peterleinchen | yep, no chanceof testign and then go down for hours/ays/... | 22:56 |
| HtheB | send ALL tmo members a PM, telling to join the force | 22:56 |
| HtheB | the force, that is MO | 22:56 |
| Win7Mac | ok, so we discussed... next topic? | 22:56 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: discussed without any outcome | 22:57 |
| juiceme | HtheB well that is doable, chemist did send everybody the posting about donations | 22:57 |
| Win7Mac | HtheB, that is MISSION IMPOSSIBLE | 22:57 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: I love Mission Impossible | 22:57 |
| HtheB | that is why we are CC | 22:57 |
| HtheB | we need to make it possible :) | 22:57 |
| HtheB | chem|st, ping | 22:57 |
| Win7Mac | GO AHEAD | 22:57 |
| reinob | hi there | 22:57 |
| Win7Mac | hi there! | 22:57 |
| peterleinchen | reinob, hi | 22:57 |
| HtheB | hey | 22:57 |
| juiceme | we are faciliators, we can discuss this and even find ways to act, true | 22:57 |
| reinob | sorry I'm late and cannot stay | 22:58 |
| HtheB | no prob | 22:58 |
| peterleinchen | reinob, we agreed you to fix the election and the user linkage of mo and tmo | 22:58 |
| HtheB | the discussion might be too heavy at the moment anyway :P | 22:58 |
| juiceme | reinob ok, nice to drop in anyway, :) | 22:58 |
| Win7Mac | we can fix here and there but not the base system. fullstop. | 22:58 |
| juiceme | yes | 22:58 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: thats why we can tell people to create a MO account | 22:59 |
| HtheB | by sending a PM and putting a huge big ass banner on TMO | 22:59 |
| peterleinchen | htheb, people that read TMO HAS to know that already | 22:59 |
| HtheB | peterleinchen WRONG! | 22:59 |
| Win7Mac | that is known info | 22:59 |
| peterleinchen | everybody who read any CC election thread was pointed there more than one time | 22:59 |
| HtheB | for guys like you: yes | 22:59 |
| HtheB | so thats why we only get like 70 votes | 23:00 |
| juiceme | HtheB, I think most people (at least the vocal ones) know it because every time there is an election or referendum this thing is discussed a lot on TMO. | 23:00 |
| HtheB | out of all our members | 23:00 |
| HtheB | juiceme: it's not hard to send out a PM to everyone | 23:00 |
| HtheB | or even just a popup message | 23:00 |
| HtheB | like the one you receive when you received a PM | 23:00 |
| juiceme | HtheB, chem|st can do it. | 23:01 |
| HtheB | yeah, thats why i pinged him | 23:01 |
| HtheB | but he's IDLE | 23:01 |
| HtheB | (Like always) | 23:01 |
| juiceme | well, he will see this call later then. | 23:01 |
| juiceme | but OK, could we continue, as it is getting late...? | 23:02 |
| HtheB | ok, next topic: | 23:02 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:02 |
| Win7Mac | yes please | 23:02 |
| HtheB | * Finalize the coding competition rules. | 23:02 |
| juiceme | okay, I think the categories presented by Win7Mac were pretty OK | 23:03 |
| HtheB | where are the current known rules? | 23:03 |
| Win7Mac | HtheB, one thought though... you may ask the guys running openrepos for help in that regard... | 23:03 |
| juiceme | I'd say we better write a wiki page of it, based on the previous competition | 23:04 |
| HtheB | juiceme: sounds ok. Wiki page, post message on TMO | 23:04 |
| HtheB | oh and please, please guys... FRONT PAGE MO | 23:04 |
| Win7Mac | there are no current known rules besides what was done last times | 23:04 |
| juiceme | for example this: https://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Coding_Competition_2012 | 23:04 |
| juiceme | when the competition is launched, then front-page-ad | 23:05 |
| Win7Mac | banner | 23:05 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: im talking about MO | 23:05 |
| HtheB | not TMO | 23:05 |
| Win7Mac | banner both ;) | 23:05 |
| juiceme | yes, good | 23:05 |
| Win7Mac | I'll provide that then | 23:06 |
| HtheB | Thanks | 23:06 |
| HtheB | ! | 23:06 |
| juiceme | I'll write up a blog on the devices-for-donation request. | 23:06 |
| HtheB | peterleinchen asked a nice question | 23:06 |
| HtheB | do we have anything already? | 23:06 |
| Win7Mac | so we need to discuss categories + prizes/funding | 23:06 |
| juiceme | HtheB only promises, no devices collected yet | 23:07 |
| HtheB | i think that we should start collecting then | 23:07 |
| Win7Mac | my main concern: get the "right2 devices to the "right" devs | 23:07 |
| HtheB | so we dont have "empty announcements" | 23:07 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac do we need to know what we need as prizes before I'll write the request? | 23:07 |
| Win7Mac | don't think so | 23:08 |
| HtheB | (by empty, i mean: Hey guys we are holding a coding competion, and you MIGHT win a price.... ) | 23:08 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: I do think so | 23:08 |
| Win7Mac | there should be "something for everybody"... | 23:08 |
| HtheB | thats what I mean with empty announcement | 23:08 |
| HtheB | yes, a kiss on his/her forehead? :) | 23:08 |
| HtheB | we sould collect at least some stuff before we can say what they could win | 23:08 |
| HtheB | ofcourse, it can get expanded later on | 23:08 |
| HtheB | but we need to have SOMETHING you know :) | 23:09 |
| Win7Mac | we have categories for all devices | 23:09 |
| Win7Mac | yeah i know | 23:09 |
| juiceme | OK, I'll write up a piece, run it thru your review by email, and then post, OK? | 23:09 |
| * HtheB does thumbs up | 23:09 | |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, we will not say we WILL have a Coding Competition, but we WANT to have | 23:09 |
| juiceme | yes | 23:10 |
| peterleinchen | and therefore we would like to collect ... | 23:10 |
| Win7Mac | yes | 23:10 |
| juiceme | I have no doubt we will get donations, only what and how much is the question :) | 23:11 |
| HtheB | exactly | 23:11 |
| Win7Mac | there already is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93334 | 23:11 |
| peterleinchen | a log post willopen a thread where we may discuss everything later, also the categories or | 23:11 |
| peterleinchen | win7mac, 18 months ... | 23:12 |
| Win7Mac | new blog post would be nice for evaluation the CC conditions | 23:12 |
| juiceme | yes, that was not finished, too bad | 23:12 |
| juiceme | so, who wants to start drafting the wiki page? | 23:12 |
| peterleinchen | win7mac, you said openrepos. what kind of help you expect/request? | 23:13 |
| Win7Mac | not sure | 23:14 |
| Win7Mac | but they're handling with DB I gues... | 23:15 |
| juiceme | at least the contest entries could be stored to openrepos for easy access. | 23:16 |
| HtheB | nice idea | 23:17 |
| Win7Mac | We might want to somewhat draw the competition towards what's needed by community (SW) and by the devs (HW) | 23:17 |
| Win7Mac | and ask community what they want | 23:18 |
| HtheB | Alright | 23:18 |
| HtheB | Are there any questions regarding these topics? | 23:18 |
| Win7Mac | someone should audit the SW... | 23:19 |
| Win7Mac | ? | 23:19 |
| HtheB | juiceme? | 23:20 |
| juiceme | sorry, was afk | 23:20 |
| juiceme | about auditing, right? | 23:21 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:21 |
| juiceme | hmm I am not sure how it has been done before? | 23:21 |
| HtheB | me neither | 23:21 |
| HtheB | thought you might have some idea | 23:22 |
| juiceme | but it is true, just in case someone pranksster wants to post viruses as competition entry | 23:22 |
| Win7Mac | if we restrict to FOSS only, community could do it | 23:22 |
| juiceme | how's it been before, are binary-only entries accepted? or do we need to have all open-source? | 23:23 |
| Win7Mac | before, closed source was accepted | 23:23 |
| Win7Mac | like Billboard | 23:24 |
| HtheB | im not against closed either | 23:24 |
| Win7Mac | i am | 23:24 |
| juiceme | I am of course for the all-in-the-open option, but it might be it is too restrictive | 23:24 |
| HtheB | many tmo members already open their stuff anyways | 23:24 |
| Win7Mac | well, that's what we have on our flag... | 23:24 |
| Win7Mac | open | 23:25 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: what about making this news on other websites? | 23:25 |
| juiceme | but indeed binary-only entries do present a problem. There has to be someone willing to test those on their own devices | 23:25 |
| HtheB | other maemo/jolla communities | 23:25 |
| Win7Mac | HtheB, why not? | 23:25 |
| Win7Mac | i mean: sure | 23:25 |
| juiceme | sure, that's a good idea | 23:25 |
| juiceme | a post on TJC might get us new members :) | 23:26 |
| HtheB | I could post on tjc | 23:26 |
| HtheB | when the competition is confirmed | 23:26 |
| peterleinchen | Win7Mac, really. closed entries were allowed? | 23:27 |
| juiceme | yes, but let's launch it first on maemo. | 23:27 |
| peterleinchen | I would go for open only | 23:27 |
| Win7Mac | +1 | 23:27 |
| HtheB | peterleinchen: the person who would want to open it, would open it any way | 23:27 |
| juiceme | ok, if we vote, I'll also go for open | 23:27 |
| HtheB | but some devs might create an app just for the competition sake | 23:28 |
| HtheB | but it might be that he/she doesnt want to open it | 23:28 |
| HtheB | which would lead to less apps on the compo | 23:28 |
| juiceme | yes, it is a risk doing it. | 23:28 |
| Win7Mac | so shall it be then | 23:29 |
| juiceme | however it is a risk also to allow unknown binaies | 23:29 |
| juiceme | s/binaies/binaries/ | 23:29 |
| Win7Mac | weright | 23:29 |
| Win7Mac | community should be able to audit IMHO | 23:29 |
| juiceme | yes. | 23:30 |
| Win7Mac | isn't open code what we're aiming for? | 23:30 |
| juiceme | easy if entries are in github for example | 23:30 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: I rather have some apps, then no apps | 23:30 |
| HtheB | sailfish for example, has already not so many apps :( | 23:31 |
| Win7Mac | true too | 23:31 |
| Win7Mac | for SF, that may be a different thing | 23:31 |
| peterleinchen | sailfish has ANDROID support :) | 23:31 |
| HtheB | peterleinchen: no, Jolla has Android support :) | 23:31 |
| peterleinchen | do we allow android apps??? | 23:31 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 23:31 |
| Win7Mac | sure not | 23:32 |
| juiceme | yes, for those that _want_ to use android apps... :) | 23:32 |
| HtheB | I dont think we should | 23:32 |
| juiceme | +1 | 23:32 |
| HtheB | android is nice yes | 23:32 |
| HtheB | but, if we want to keep things alive, let it atleast be native apps | 23:32 |
| HtheB | I dont care about open or not | 23:32 |
| HtheB | as long as its native | 23:32 |
| HtheB | I'm fine | 23:32 |
| juiceme | reason IMHO: there already are so many android apps nobody needs more | 23:32 |
| HtheB | exactly | 23:33 |
| juiceme | same for WP apps. | 23:33 |
| HtheB | another thing that I would to add up for the compo | 23:33 |
| juiceme | well not so many but we don't need 'em | 23:33 |
| HtheB | We should ask chem|st to make a new Sub thread | 23:33 |
| juiceme | just for the competition? | 23:34 |
| Win7Mac | HtheB, Council can do that | 23:34 |
| HtheB | yes | 23:34 |
| HtheB | alright thats great then! | 23:34 |
| HtheB | so people can post their apps on it | 23:34 |
| Win7Mac | as blogpost | 23:34 |
| juiceme | yes | 23:34 |
| HtheB | and link the app on openrepos | 23:34 |
| HtheB | people can discuss the app on the topic | 23:34 |
| HtheB | that is generally how competitions are held on forums that I've joined before | 23:35 |
| HtheB | (Nintendo DS compos) | 23:35 |
| juiceme | good | 23:35 |
| HtheB | we could make something like: | 23:35 |
| juiceme | what, they actually hold coding compos for Nintendo?? | 23:35 |
| juiceme | I knew there's a sorts of homebrew on those things but I always thought it's more or less a curiosity... | 23:36 |
| peterleinchen | here is an excerpt form rules 2012: | 23:36 |
| HtheB | - Coding competition | 23:36 |
| HtheB | | - Fremantle | 23:36 |
| HtheB | | | - All sub categories | 23:36 |
| HtheB | | | 23:36 |
| HtheB | | - Harmattan | 23:36 |
| HtheB | | | 23:36 |
| HtheB | | | - All sub categories | 23:36 |
| peterleinchen | Apps must be available as executable and your entry should include at least two screen shots and a brief description to take part in the election. The applications have to run on default hardware running on an official version of Maemo or Harmattan. | 23:36 |
| HtheB | | | 23:37 |
| HtheB | | - Saifish OS | 23:37 |
| HtheB | | | - All sub categories | 23:37 |
| HtheB | juiceme: yes, homebrew coding competitions | 23:37 |
| HtheB | these coding compos have made the homebrew community very big | 23:37 |
| Win7Mac | should we ask OpenRepos admins for having their infra to submit applications in that intent? | 23:38 |
| juiceme | HtheB, good diagram, pity that peterleinchen's post is smack in the middle of it :) | 23:38 |
| HtheB | juiceme: haha | 23:38 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac probably a good idea | 23:38 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: They won't disagree on this | 23:38 |
| HtheB | but I'll ask Custodian for this | 23:38 |
| HtheB | I will pm him right now concerning this | 23:39 |
| Win7Mac | and why not consider improvements on our infra as a category? | 23:40 |
| Win7Mac | or support the guys at openrepos? | 23:40 |
| HtheB | Win7Mac: remember what happened to "MeeGo store"? | 23:40 |
| juiceme | yes, that's possible too. | 23:40 |
| Win7Mac | no | 23:40 |
| juiceme | HtheB, no, what? | 23:41 |
| HtheB | The guys from OpenRepos deserves some attention | 23:41 |
| HtheB | they opened up a door for us and made our lives easier :) | 23:41 |
| HtheB | WITHOUT asking any money | 23:41 |
| HtheB | there are not even ads on the site | 23:41 |
| HtheB | (or does it? because I have ad blocker :P) | 23:42 |
| juiceme | hey, just a headsup, I need to go in a minute... | 23:42 |
| HtheB | there was a Meego store in development a long time ago | 23:42 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, have a good rest | 23:42 |
| HtheB | dont remember its original name anymore | 23:42 |
| juiceme | HtheB was it non-nokia store? | 23:43 |
| HtheB | but it never became useful | 23:43 |
| Win7Mac | that's an entry for my suggested category "recent contributors (recent major releases)" | 23:43 |
| HtheB | no it was apps.meego.com or something | 23:43 |
| juiceme | peterleinchen, you too! | 23:43 |
| Win7Mac | ^^openrepos i mean | 23:43 |
| peterleinchen | apps.formeego.com iirc | 23:43 |
| HtheB | peterleinchen: yes that one | 23:43 |
| juiceme | gnite! | 23:43 |
| HtheB | good night bro | 23:44 |
| HtheB | thanks for joining | 23:44 |
| juiceme | I'll write up the minutes afterwards, if you continue meeting. | 23:44 |
| HtheB | I think we'll almost at the end of the meeting :) | 23:44 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme, gnite, sorry you're leaving so abrupt | 23:44 |
| Win7Mac | HtheB, when you ask Custodian to use their infra for the CC, also ask what MC e.V. could do to show some love for what they're doing | 23:48 |
| HtheB | Hi! | 23:48 |
| HtheB | We (the Community Council) would like to hold a Coding Competition here on TMO very soon. | 23:48 |
| HtheB | But I would like to ask you, if we could ask people to upload their apps on OpenRepos so people could download it on their phones directly using Warehouse. | 23:48 |
| HtheB | It would also be nice to have a "Coding Competition" button as an extra category (or rather calling it, a Tag. So when the coding competition is over, the tag can be removed and the apps would be in the correct category) | 23:48 |
| HtheB | Hope to get a reply :) | 23:48 |
| HtheB | Best regards, | 23:48 |
| HtheB | Halit Bal | 23:48 |
| HtheB | haven't sent the message yet | 23:48 |
| HtheB | ok, that would be nice to add indeed | 23:48 |
| Win7Mac | please put that in an email so we can respond/tweak/add it... | 23:49 |
| * peterleinchen think so too | 23:51 | |
| Win7Mac | nice start though | 23:51 |
| peterleinchen | first mail to CC, then sent out | 23:51 |
| peterleinchen | win7mac, yes | 23:51 |
| HtheB | sent | 23:51 |
| HtheB | i mean, mail sent :) | 23:51 |
| peterleinchen | we should mention for MeeGo only as for maemo we have own infra | 23:51 |
| peterleinchen | and just copied CC wiki page to https://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Coding_Competition_2016 | 23:52 |
| peterleinchen | so feel free to edit | 23:52 |
| peterleinchen | ofc first check, read | 23:52 |
| peterleinchen | but e.g. contact info is outdated | 23:52 |
| peterleinchen | about categories and prizes we go for edit when we know ... | 23:53 |
| peterleinchen | but please all go | 23:53 |
| HtheB | nice | 23:53 |
| Win7Mac | phew... | 23:53 |
| HtheB | Alright then | 23:53 |
| HtheB | I guess thats it for today I guess? | 23:53 |
| Win7Mac | nice? | 23:53 |
| peterleinchen | I di not tale latest but latest version before election was closed ! | 23:54 |
| Win7Mac | I'd start from scratch | 23:54 |
| peterleinchen | go ahead ;) | 23:54 |
| Win7Mac | now that tha page exists... | 23:54 |
| peterleinchen | at least this is a starting point (you can delete what you like) | 23:55 |
| peterleinchen | or delete complete content and start anew | 23:55 |
| peterleinchen | no prob, page is there | 23:55 |
| Win7Mac | sure, we should involve community asap, we still need to figure how to get it "right", get the full figure... | 23:56 |
| Win7Mac | and since it's done by and meant for community... | 23:57 |
| Win7Mac | done by = participants | 23:59 |
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