| chem|st | well talk. is permissions | 00:00 |
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| juiceme | yes | 00:00 |
| chem|st | and talk is like wearing cloaks under your cloak | 00:01 |
| HtheB | [insert xzibit yo dawg meme] | 00:01 |
| chem|st | I should probably become council next term and name myself master of the universe | 00:01 |
| juiceme | that'd be apt :) | 00:02 |
| juiceme | I was only aiming for emperor :) | 00:02 |
| chem|st | you can try to -get me | 00:02 |
| chem|st | you are already hierarch | 00:02 |
| chem|st | not far from emperor though | 00:02 |
| HtheB | chem|st: off topic: any idea when neo900 will be available? | 00:03 |
| juiceme | yes, and that feels good :) | 00:03 |
| HtheB | as in READY | 00:03 |
| chem|st | 2 things council might want to think about, where does the community go? standing still will start to smell at some point | 00:03 |
| chem|st | what does the community need to go where we like it to be heading? | 00:04 |
| juiceme | true, and will cause dwindling of people one by one | 00:04 |
| chem|st | HtheB: neo900 is equivalent to hurd, it will be ready next year | 00:04 |
| juiceme | well put | 00:04 |
| juiceme | if it was Jolla it'd be ready soon | 00:05 |
| HtheB | :-) | 00:05 |
| HtheB | will it use Maemo5? | 00:05 |
| chem|st | from my point of view we should go all in on something, that some thing is more sailfish (not Jolla!) than neo900 | 00:05 |
| chem|st | HtheB: debian | 00:05 |
| HtheB | just debian debian or debian based like maemo? | 00:06 |
| chem|st | what sailfish needs is a maemo-extras like platform with community devel-testing-xtras QA | 00:07 |
| juiceme | mer with glacier would be one nice way to go | 00:07 |
| chem|st | HtheB: iirc debian debian | 00:07 |
| juiceme | debian has many good sides. Even as I am using nowdays both deb & rpm based systems deb is still closer to my heart | 00:08 |
| chem|st | or well, lets go one up, lets do nemomobile/mer instead of sailfish | 00:08 |
| juiceme | i'd like that very well | 00:08 |
| HtheB | sounds good | 00:08 |
| chem|st | juiceme: not only that, not being able to use the whole debian world is just limiting, I was never fund of any rpm based environment | 00:09 |
| HtheB | and if it's totally open source, would love to see it running on other devices as well | 00:09 |
| chem|st | and I started off with Fedora and stuff | 00:09 |
| HtheB | chem|st: me too | 00:09 |
| HtheB | Ubuntu (one if the most used linux based os for consumers) is also debian based | 00:10 |
| juiceme | my first package-based linuxii were rpm too (before that slackware but it was not packet based really in any sense of the word) | 00:10 |
| chem|st | looking the .rpm direction you never know, the debian-way is most often a clear path to something working as long as someone figured out how to build and package properly | 00:10 |
| juiceme | changed over to debian somewhere mid- 90's | 00:10 |
| chem|st | I swapped to debian in about 2005 | 00:11 |
| juiceme | only recently back to rpm's because of mer and our cloudbase-systems at work | 00:11 |
| chem|st | I was infected by the debian-security team and the linuxtag staff, got hooked | 00:12 |
| juiceme | good stuff | 00:12 |
| chem|st | for me it is only jolla that is doing it again... | 00:12 |
| HtheB | for me its the first time i used rpm | 00:13 |
| HtheB | never got into redhat before | 00:13 |
| chem|st | and as far as I am concerned they lost the debian-hardcore-devel-anchorage with that move | 00:13 |
| juiceme | but hey, it's getting late and I need to drop off | 00:13 |
| chem|st | bb | 00:13 |
| chem|st | take care! | 00:13 |
| juiceme | nite! | 00:13 |
| HtheB | thnx for the time guys | 00:14 |
| HtheB | o/ | 00:14 |
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| chem|st | juiceme: ping | 19:57 |
| chem|st | juiceme: state of the art buerocracy... I copy some docs to the cloud including pictures | 19:58 |
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