| Oksanaa | If it is broken, then yes, it's not an option. | 00:00 |
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| juiceme | it is, or else we would not need to try to mend it :D | 00:01 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 00:01 |
| Win7Mac | Oksana, what would "your" referndum look like? | 00:02 |
| juiceme | hey, I'll need to go to bed now... | 00:05 |
| juiceme | so see ya later! | 00:05 |
| Oksanaa | What is broken in current "Board executes rulings of Council and GA" situation? | 00:05 |
| Win7Mac | They can contradict each other? | 00:06 |
| Win7Mac | Or we even may leave that, but council responsibilitys *need* to be defined as well | 00:07 |
| Win7Mac | in Association Rules (General Regulations) | 00:08 |
| Win7Mac | Oksana, what responsibility you want Council to take? | 00:10 |
| Oksanaa | Council responsibility: conduct elections, meetings, and be aware of issues encountered by the community and-or techstaff to the point of finding solutions and asking Board to execute said solutions? | 00:11 |
| * Oksanaa is just thinking randomly, not remembering Association Rules... | 00:12 | |
| Win7Mac | Fine, great point. Council can do whatever they find appropriate in that regard and then propose that to board, but not order it | 00:13 |
| Win7Mac | ^^ re issues encountered... | 00:13 |
| Win7Mac | it is a fine line to draw there... | 00:14 |
| Oksanaa | As in, Board has veto over the "random" resolutions of Council, but GA can override that veto? | 00:15 |
| Win7Mac | GA must always remain the ultimate force, by law | 00:15 |
| Win7Mac | there is no veto for board | 00:16 |
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| Win7Mac | only for illegal action | 00:16 |
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| Oksanaa | Becase Board should not have absolute, unrestrained right to ignore resolutions of Council | 00:31 |
| Win7Mac | why not? GA is the control instance | 00:32 |
| Win7Mac | If GA thinks, board is doing a bad job, they can call for re-elections anytime | 00:33 |
| Win7Mac | Council never been an instance to tell (Nokia) board any resolutions | 00:34 |
| Win7Mac | council, in the sense of the word, means advisor... | 00:35 |
| Win7Mac | did you read backlog? | 00:35 |
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| Win7Mac | Oksana, when you're saying "Board should not have absolute, unrestrained right to ignore resolutions of Council" | 00:46 |
| Win7Mac | you're aslo saying Council should have absolute, unrestrained right to dictate anything to baord | 00:47 |
| Win7Mac | which is not an option. At least this is what i drew out of this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93908 | 00:48 |
| Win7Mac | tbh, i already knew it before that thread... | 00:48 |
| Win7Mac | but at least by now, you should too, no? | 00:49 |
| Win7Mac | Oksana, you asked for a history of Hifo expenses - here it is: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1470595#post1470595 | 01:05 |
| Win7Mac | goodnite | 01:11 |
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| chem|st | why so complicated? | 02:09 |
| chem|st | it breaks down to two things: Yes, we accept e.V. Association Rules as our Council's Rules with the following changes... No, we do want council rules to stay outside of e.V. Association rules but change the following... and last but not least.. No, nothing never change anything! | 02:12 |
| chem|st | ehrm three (3) | 02:12 |
| chem|st | Oksana: by our bylaws the eV is committed to support this FOSS community so board must not negate reasonable requests for the community, but in some cases board will request polling/referendum or even a GA vote to proceed | 02:17 |
| chem|st | and as win said, council is the advisory board and has nothing to say but what is written in the bylaws/rules/regulations | 02:18 |
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| juiceme | morning :) | 07:31 |
| chem|st | o/ | 11:22 |
| chem|st | for those under the impression that nokia could deny us moving everything to MCeV, you are wrong, I am not in the position to share details of the agreement but what I can share is that in case of HiFo moving *all* assets to a new/other entity nokia has to be notified, not asked for permission, and the *new entity has to kiss the ring | 12:20 |
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