IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2015-01-20

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peterleinchenhi, am I first? ;)23:01
juicemepeterleinchen, hiya!23:04
juiceme(here all the time... :)23:04
OksanaGood morning!23:05
juicemeOksana, good evening :)23:05
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peterleinchenoksana, hi23:06
Oksanahello :-)23:06
juicemeso, america still out, right?23:16
juicemeanyone seen gerbick & mtraceur lately?23:17
OksanaNot on IRC23:17
Oksanagerbick took part in correspondence about maemo.org domain registration23:17
juicemegood. Is it proceeding now?23:18
OksanaMaybe... maemo.org domain registration: chemistsent mails to board^2 about TM domain & bankaccounts, and to nokia about TM and domain transfer23:18
juicemeI was kind of worried for a while, as I was under the impression the domain transfer had been done already23:18
peterleinchenme too, together with the trademark23:19
juicemeit never occurred me even to check that...23:19
juicemehow did you spot it?23:19
OksanaDocScrutinizer reminded me23:20
peterleinchenoksana, big thanks to you23:20
OksanaWe were discussing #maemo channels at Freenode and group contacts and trademark23:20
peterleinchenDocScrutinizer05, and also to you!23:21
juicemeyes, the trademark is also going to need refreshing soon23:21
Oksana[Brr...] Where can I see the expiry date and owner of a trademark?23:22
juicemethe trademark is already owned by HiFo, it only needs to be paid up for refreshement. I am not sure whrer you can see the expity, but chem|st told me it will expire in the end of february23:23
juicemebut the domain ownership is really badly urgent now23:24
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OksanaWelcome! gerbick?23:24
Guest10Yep! Sorry for the nondescript name, using Textual on the Mac - first time.23:25
juicemecarolina ^^^ could be ?23:25
juicemeGuest10, welcome :)23:25
Guest10Yes, 'tis I gerbick23:25
Guest10Sorry for the late entry. The timing of this in the last two weeks has clashed with meetings.23:26
juicemewe were just discussing the domain registration.23:26
Guest10We should hear from them end of this week, right?23:26
Oksanamaemo.org domain registration: chemistsent mails to board^2 about TM domain & bankaccounts, and to nokia about TM and domain transfer23:26
OksanaHopefully, yes.23:26
Oksanatrademark is already owned by HiFo, it only needs to be paid up for refreshment. I am not sure where you can see the expiry, but chem|st told me it will expire in the end of February23:27
Oksanachem|st told juiceme*23:27
Guest10Okay, I know this is my second meeting, and you guys third. But is it fair to ask that I've invariably missed something?23:30
Oksana((missed something)) There is livelog at html page (see topic), and I have reposted some information from earlier so that it would be visible: domain and trademark. If anything is unclear, ask :-)23:33
Guest10I meant in regards to what I should sign.23:33
Guest10I saw Peter Leinchen speaking about something around the eV... keyword was "ort"23:34
juicemegerbick, I am not sure waht you mean?23:35
OksanaYou are very welcome to join eV, but you do not have to. http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoCommunity_eV23:35
Guest10Ah, okay. Since I'm not in Germany, and my German is very rusty... Ich glaube nicht. Vielen dank23:35
juicemeah, yes, that one. true.23:35
Guest10Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt. The domain...23:36
OksanaAre we going to contact x-fade to get cloaks, and to add more GC, such as maybe chem|st and warfare? What ways to contact x-fade were tried, and failed, and what ways can be tried?23:37
juicemerzr had email contact with him I guess. But the other avenue is being explored now, contacting freenode staff directly.23:38
OksanaOk, in contacting freenode staff directly: having trademark owned by Hildon Foundation should be beneficial, because previously the channels "belonged" to Nokia?23:39
juicemeother urgentish things going on, we are trying to find a bank that is easy to set up with the MCEV avvount, that is usable both in finland and in gernmany.23:40
peterleinchenjuiceme, x-fade did not answer at all ...23:40
juicemethat so? bummer.23:40
peterleinchenjuiceme, what kkind of probs with banks?23:40
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juicemeOksana, yes, that is the angle we are going at with23:41
juicemepeterleinchen, it turned out yesterday that having my power-of-attorney was not enough, I would have needed to go to germany to sign some papers :(23:41
peterleinchenjuiceme, :(:(:(23:42
juicemethe banks are being delibrately difficult lately :(23:42
OksanaOk. Just, when I was trying to search for Maemo at http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ , there was no mention of Hildon Foundation. So, having something-like-whois for Maemo trademark would be welcome.23:43
juicemebut it looks it is possible, now, at least I hope so23:43
peterleinchenwe have kind of remote identity validation, called Post-Ident23:43
peterleinchenthere you go to Post Office with passport and get identified to bank23:44
juicemepeterleinchen, yes, tha was tried. But it requires *visiting* germany in person :(23:45
OksanaTrying to find bank which is both in Finland and in Germany... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bundesbank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handelsbanken23:46
juicemeyes.23:46
Oksana?23:47
juicemeI have contacted HB, and they cannot open the account from finland, as the e.V. is registered in germany, but the other way is possible.23:47
juicemejust gotmail from them today23:47
peterleinchenjuiceme, okay. forgot that those (not german) banks had a dependency in germany23:48
juicemenow we need to ast khe german branch if they are willing to send the papers for signing to my local branch bank.23:48
juicemehandelsbanken seems a good candidate ATM, it is a swedish bank23:49
peterleinchenthat would be perfect23:49
juicemeI am hoping for it23:50
juicemeelse it means a trip for me to south-of-the-pond :)23:50
OksanaOk, are we going to contact freemangordon and-or merlin1991 about auto-builder and tool-chains: thumb toolchain, and GCC versions across toolchains?23:53
juicemewhat's the status on that?23:54
OksanaI could PM on TMO, both of them, about auto-builder, and asd about feasibility of adding thumb-toolchain, and the versions of GCC?23:55
Oksanaask*23:55
juicemeOksana, if you are willing to do that, it would be beautiful.23:56
peterleinchenyes, please23:56
juicemeI have no experience on those, since I have no N90023:56
gerbickDitto what juiceme said23:56
juicemeor actually I could say, it is in the future of me still :)23:56
peterleinchenif we get irc fixed, it would be nice to get invited to maemo-admin23:57
* juiceme just bought a N900 :)23:57
peterleinchenjuiceme, Yeah!!! :)23:57
gerbickCongrats. If I find one for cheap, I might get one - but the USB issue scared me away23:57
juicemepeterleinchen, I just had to get one, how else can I be in the *maemo* council :)23:57
peterleinchen:) you wont regret23:58
juicemebut it is still in da mail, will get it this week hopegully...23:58
peterleinchenset up thumb (I recommend, as reinob)23:58
juicemes/hopegully/hopefully/23:58
juicemeI will have lot to learn with it I guess23:58
peterleinchenfile down your USB cables23:59
peterleinchenI have it since 4 yyears and no USB prob23:59

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