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juicemehia all! \o/22:02
kolphi juiceme22:07
* kolp is 'all' o.O22:07
kolp:)22:07
juicemekolp, evening :)22:08
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juicemepeterleinchen, hiya :)22:16
peterleinchenhi juiceme, kolp22:16
juicemebtw, anything from generalantilles et al? regarding out jyrjyr problem :)22:16
peterleinchennope22:17
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peterleinchenany one of the candidates around?22:23
peterleinchenany questions?22:23
peterleinchenalso from community?22:23
juicemenot up to now, at least :)22:23
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peterleinchenalso nothing via PM, mail, IM, right?22:24
juicemenope. How's the wiki, is there anything to add there?22:24
peterleinchenno, I think RzR did a great job22:25
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peterleinchenonly if candidates want to declare the there (in more detail)22:25
peterleinchens/the/them/22:26
juicememaybe the non-decided could be removed, wht do you think?22:26
peterleinchenerm, yes. that,s true. and what about declinations?22:29
juicemedeclination?22:33
peterleinchen??? ;)22:33
peterleinchenerm, I mean those who declined22:33
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juicemeWin7Mac, hi :)22:35
Win7Machi there22:36
peterleinchenhi22:36
peterleinchennot really much going on22:40
peterleinchenso I suggest we offer an open discussion next tuesday22:41
peterleinchenenough time then (5 days) until voting22:41
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juicemeOksana, wikiwide, hello :)22:50
OksanaGood morning :-)22:51
peterleinchenoksana, hi22:51
OksanaHello :-) How is it with donate banner? ;-) And Maemo Coding Competition for 2015? :)22:52
juicemethe banner should go, yes22:52
juicemeand for the coding competition, that'd be issue for the next council :)22:53
OksanaAnd when you get a new one... It should look distinctly different. So that people would not ignore it? ;-)22:53
peterleinchendo we have any prices/devices to hand out?22:54
peterleinchenI know there were already some gifted devices, or?22:54
peterleinchenoksana, right22:54
juicemepeterleinchen, there were some donation devices, yes.22:55
OksanaJust ordered a few ultra-clear screen protectors from Clarivue, to be ready for Neo900(s) when they get here ;-)22:55
juicemeI'll have to think if I'd also donate something... :)22:55
juicemeOksana, that'll be some time I think, or do you got information already on dispatch schedule?22:56
* Oksana would probably also donate something, if I get my current devices working: N900 lacks microUSB port, N950 has broken SIM contacts22:56
OksanaNo, no info on dispatch schedule.22:56
OksanaBut, 70x 1GB RAM chips just arrived, for prototype testing ;-)22:57
peterleinchenjuiceme, but where are they?22:57
peterleinchenI also remember some member donating (nieldk?)22:58
juicemehmm, the chips? under testing I hope!22:58
OksanaA photograph: http://neo900.org/stuff/joerg/N9_1GB-RAM/DSC02147.jpeg22:59
juicemenice!23:00
peterleinchenjuiceme, no ;) I meant the donated competition devices23:01
juicemeThat was the most hard-to-obtain part, right?23:01
OksanaOne of the most hard to obtain, yes. There is also speaker (Knowles Tiny) and dome sheet (ordering a custom one from snaptron, since Nokia's ones are extremely rare).23:03
OksanaSo, does anybody know the whereabouts of donated competition devices? Stowed in a cardboard box under a table?23:04
RzRhi23:04
peterleinchennot under mine ;)23:04
juicemeI think they were promised but not delivered anywhere...23:05
peterleinchenrzr, hi23:05
juicemeRzR, welcome :)23:05
peterleinchenjuiceme, prolly23:05
RzRsorry I have been busy23:05
juicemenp23:05
peterleinchenwe will need to dig some up23:05
RzRso are all the candidates valid ?23:05
juicemeyes, all have karma enough to go :)23:06
RzRgreat23:06
RzRwe did better than previous council23:06
RzRby only one23:06
RzRnow we should try to attract more voters23:06
peterleinchenrzr, how?23:07
RzRyou tell me23:07
peterleinchenofc changing signature23:07
RzRcould be done yea23:07
juicemegood idea, that.23:08
RzROksana, can you help to find me a n950 replacement screen ?23:08
Win7MacI'll provide a banner if you don't mind23:08
RzRjuiceme, are you able to prepare the vote machine ?23:08
RzRWin7Mac, hi23:08
juicemealso, just like last time there'll be at least a few people who will be amazed that they cannot vote as they have no maemo/garage account :/23:08
OksanaHeh... I haven't ever shopped for one, but I can try to DuckDuckGo for N950 LCD panel.23:08
Win7Machi RzR23:08
juicemeRzR, yes, I checked it and everything is in order :)23:09
RzRWin7Mac, btw I have the idea to create a survey thread to see if pple want to tell community they vote or why not23:09
Win7MacRzR, go for it!23:10
RzRok23:10
RzRlike will you vote for next maemo council election ?23:10
RzR1/ yea I will23:10
RzR2/ yea I'd like to but unsure how23:10
Win7Macthat simple?23:10
RzR3/ yes else23:10
RzR4/ no It does not make sense to me23:11
RzR5/ no I dont feel I am able to choose candidates23:11
RzR6/ no else23:11
RzR7/ others23:11
Win7Macwe probably want discussion more towards "what can you do to help make MC ev a success"?23:12
RzRsure23:12
juicemeRzR, excellent poll, please make it. It will help to create awareness23:12
juicemeWin7Mac, that too23:12
RzRWin7Mac, should all MC ev related action be taken during the election period ?23:13
peterleinchenrzr, yes!23:13
RzRI think this add confusion23:13
RzRbut this is something to put the light on once the vote is over23:13
peterleinchenwin7mac, we should distinguish clearly between eV and election23:13
Win7Maci mean, it will be "in charge" once HiFo hands over assets. It's not perfect, so we should work on that23:13
RzRWin7Mac, any ETA ?23:14
peterleinchenbut I would keep it  up even during voting period23:14
peterleinchenjust first priority and concentration on election, but why not create attention for eV?23:15
Win7Macjuiceme, ETA is basically depending on MC eV bank account availability...23:16
RzRev could benefit of the spin of the election23:16
RzRI thought about changing my sig to EV once election is over23:16
peterleinchenrzr, that is definitely good idea (after election)23:17
Win7MacWe probably want to know if candidates have any concerns towards eV and if so how to resolve that23:17
juicemeWin7Mac, true. I'll get to it but there have been certain developments lately that have, lets' say hindered me a bit...23:17
RzRyea we should help on that23:17
RzRWin7Mac, may you just contact candidates 1st and ask them to mention about ev on their program23:18
RzRand what are they plans23:18
RzRtheir23:18
Win7MacRzR, me? by pm or what?23:19
RzRup to you23:19
RzRyou're at the board not me ;)23:19
Win7Machm...23:19
juicemewould it be a good idea to get all candidates to talk together here on #maemo-meeting some day?23:20
RzRmaybe #maemo23:20
peterleinchenas suggested above23:20
RzRit's not that crowded23:20
juicemecould be that too23:20
peterleinchennext tuesday23:20
peterleinchenhere on this channel23:21
RzRmaybe #mm is better since it's logged23:21
RzRyea23:21
juicemeyes23:21
RzRso we're supposed to send the candidates list23:22
RzRI havent checked23:22
peterleinchenand they may also chat not only tuesday but all day long :)23:22
Win7Macthey should speak up on tmo or on the candidate decleration wiki page IMHO23:22
RzRwe must make sure they're about to edit wiki23:23
peterleinchenwin7mac, yes to community23:23
Win7Macthey should express their idea towards community/voters, no?23:23
peterleinchenyes23:23
peterleinchenon wiki / tmo23:23
RzRor their wiki user pages too23:23
RzRhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014/Candidate_declarations23:23
peterleinchenhere on irc it was meant for early internal discussion, right?23:23
juicemeRzR, by the way, I was thinking earlier maybe the election wiki pages should be cleaned now that we have the candidates selected, there's no need for the refusers to be there, hmm?23:23
RzROksana, you're missing http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014/Candidate_declarations23:24
RzRjuiceme, well I would let them and let them decide to edit the wikipage23:25
RzRjuiceme, tmo threads are not deleted23:25
RzRso ...23:25
OksanaRzR: LCD panel is number H397VN01 , but it does not help in finding anything. Continuing search...23:25
RzROksana, http://rzr.online.fr/q/lcd23:25
juicemeRzR, you've got a point there, true23:25
RzROksana,   https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://auo.com/?sn=149&lang=en-US&c=323:26
Win7MacFrom last meeting minutes; Action Items: Council to clarify with HiFo board about the upcoming board election...23:26
OksanaSo far: LCD panel by itself http://www.mobilephone-spares.com/Nokia-N950-LCD-Display.html23:26
RzRwholesale23:26
OksanaSorry, but web archive does not work?23:27
RzRhttp://auo.com.tw/?sn=306&lang=ja-JP&c=36&n=20623:27
RzRwell let's keep this out of the meeting23:27
Win7MacHiFo board elections are overdue. We may disclaim to hold elections if we could estimate the date HiFo could be closed23:28
Win7Mac...if it was soon (TM)23:28
juicemeWin7Mac, is there a problem if HiFo election is not performed soonish?23:28
peterleinchenwin7mac, who is board of hifo?23:29
Win7Macnot sure really. theoretically yes23:29
peterleinchenwin7mac, which ones?23:29
Win7MacJaffa, GeneralAntilles, chem|st, me23:29
peterleinchenjaffa and GA are not really active23:30
Win7MacWoody still is very helpfull23:30
Win7Macpeterleinchen, no, unfortunately not23:30
peterleinchenso we/board should ask them if okay we keep the board memebers until transfer23:30
peterleinchenokay to me as council member23:31
Win7Macthat's what's happening atm23:31
peterleinchenhappening? more staling ;)23:32
RzR;)23:33
Win7Macwell, council is supposed to hold elections, so it's their decision really. We are continueing since nobody else cared so far...23:33
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juicemeM4rtinK, good evening :)23:34
peterleinchenso current council: need to vote23:34
M4rtinKjuiceme: hi! :)23:34
Win7Macsorry to repeat, it's all about the bank account...23:35
peterleinchenare we okay to keep current board until transfer?23:35
Win7Machi M4rtinK23:35
RzRmeanwhile I checked the community input page and nothing to deal with http://wiki.maemo.org/Talk:Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda23:35
RzRhi M4rtinK23:35
M4rtinKhi :)23:35
peterleinchenhmm, what about those sub pages on mo for eV23:40
peterleinchenand what about including "CoC"?23:41
Win7Macpeterleinchen, good idea to give HiFo board some legitimation to continue, given the also overdue but hopefully soon to be finalized transition towards MC eV23:42
peterleinchenjuicme, comment/vote23:43
peterleinchenrzr, comment/vote23:43
Win7Macwhat kind of subpages? what else desired besides the wikipage: http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoCommunity_eV23:43
Win7Mac?23:43
RzRyea CoC +123:44
juicemeWin7Mac, probably RzR meant more content23:44
Win7Macreally appreciate CoC23:44
peterleinchenwin7mac, hmm. prolly sufficient. just had that in mind/list23:45
OksanaWell, put application form onto Wiki or something? List of members who already joined eV, if any? Any information which can be made public about eV, should be put on Wiki, to avoid searching through TMO threads.23:45
juicemeyes, we already did check the CoC's of various NGO's and did come to conclusion, not just written it down yet.23:45
RzRmore content on what ?23:45
RzRI missed something23:45
peterleinchenI amfine with publishing list of members (only nickname ofc)23:45
juicemeRzR, on the topic you asked about, subpages. If there needs to be more content.23:46
Win7MacOksana, +1, board has to do that...23:46
RzRthe candidates page ?23:47
juicemeyes, Nick's ought to be OK, altough maybe ask first from members23:47
Win7Macbtw, application form is on Wiki...23:47
OksanaWell, Win7Mac, you are a member of the board?23:47
juicemeanyway, I'll have to drop off before I doze off :)23:48
Win7MacHiFo board, yes. MC eV, chem|st + juiceme are23:48
OksanaApplication form is on Wiki! Thank you.23:48
Win7Macsure23:48
juicemeOksana, yes, me & chemist since Doc and Niel left23:49
Win7MacWait, Doc never was in board!!!23:49
juicemebut. good night from me. over&out.23:49
* RzR Will you vote for next Maemo Council Elections ? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9431823:49
juicemeWin7Mac, ah, true, he was a member but not board. sorry!23:50
Win7Macsince he never actively quit eV membership, AFAIK he still is member. He was basically removed from council after being inresponsive for some time...23:52
Win7Macbut anyway, let's look forward23:53

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