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rZr | juiceme, hi | 21:21 |
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rZr | I updated status | 21:22 |
rZr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1451670#post1451670 | 21:22 |
rZr | things are going well | 21:22 |
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juiceme | rZr, hiya! | 21:28 |
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juiceme | am just checking user tables for voting. | 21:29 |
juiceme | I am happy that all of our candidates have karma>100 | 21:31 |
rZr | yea this is good | 21:32 |
rZr | juiceme, can we set the TBA date in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Nominated | 21:32 |
juiceme | well, I guess the TBA for karma means a cutoff date when karma needs to be over 100? | 21:34 |
juiceme | so not relevant now as all have over 100 | 21:34 |
juiceme | TBA for list of potential candidates; Not sure if relevant? | 21:35 |
juiceme | TBA for List of candidates announced; that'll be the date when nomonation closes | 21:36 |
rZr | ok | 21:36 |
juiceme | just my opinions :) | 21:36 |
rZr | ok | 21:37 |
rZr | juiceme, Nominations close -13 Dec 2014 | 21:38 |
rZr | does this mean on 14th no more nominates right / | 21:39 |
rZr | but how long to wait for declaration of candidates ? | 21:39 |
rZr | List of candidates announced - TBA | 21:40 |
rZr | this one show be set ASAP | 21:40 |
juiceme | well, do we follow UTC, so that nomination closes 00:00 (midnight UTC) on between sat and sun? | 21:41 |
juiceme | If so, then we can announce final list a minute over midnight if we want to :) | 21:41 |
rZr | candidates are the ones that posted to list | 21:42 |
rZr | we expect them to do it now or after the nomination close right ? | 21:42 |
rZr | tell me if I am wrong | 21:43 |
rZr | but | 21:43 |
rZr | nomination came before declaration | 21:43 |
rZr | bbl | 21:43 |
rZr | dinner time | 21:43 |
juiceme | okay | 21:47 |
juiceme | this is how I understood it; nomination period is the duration when nominations are made. during this period the candidates announce their nomination. | 21:49 |
juiceme | contemplation period is when candidates can introduce themselves and engage in discussions with each other and voters. | 21:50 |
juiceme | Then follows the voting period, when election machine is open | 21:51 |
juiceme | when voting closes, results are announced | 21:51 |
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rZr | back | 22:03 |
juiceme | okay | 22:03 |
juiceme | Peter's not here yet, though | 22:03 |
rZr | yea | 22:03 |
rZr | he has familly health issue | 22:04 |
rZr | same here | 22:04 |
juiceme | yes. | 22:04 |
juiceme | So, what do we still have to clear out before the weekend? | 22:04 |
rZr | List of candidates announced - TBA | 22:05 |
juiceme | that'll be finalized when nomination ends | 22:06 |
rZr | 20 dec ? | 22:06 |
juiceme | 14.12 ? | 22:06 |
rZr | Nominations close -13 Dec 2014 | 22:06 |
juiceme | yes | 22:06 |
rZr | so what is the step after ? | 22:06 |
juiceme | a minute after midnight | 22:06 |
juiceme | :) | 22:06 |
juiceme | UTC I guess | 22:06 |
rZr | humm | 22:07 |
juiceme | or do you have other ideas? | 22:07 |
rZr | not really but we're supposed to announce a date for TBA | 22:07 |
rZr | I understood this | 22:08 |
rZr | 1st community nominate folks until 13 Dec 2014 | 22:08 |
juiceme | yes | 22:08 |
rZr | then nominee has a "short" delay to confirm if they're candidate | 22:09 |
rZr | (posting to the ml) | 22:09 |
rZr | until the List of candidates announced - date | 22:09 |
rZr | so we should set it up now | 22:09 |
juiceme | okay, now I get what you mean. | 22:09 |
juiceme | I understood it a bit differently; | 22:09 |
juiceme | 1. nomination period is the duration when nominations are made. during this period the candidates announce their nomination. | 22:09 |
juiceme | 2. contemplation period is when candidates can introduce themselves and engage in discussions with each other and voters.. | 22:10 |
juiceme | 3. Then follows the voting period, when election machine is open | 22:10 |
juiceme | So I tought that nomination period is when candidates are nominated (and accepted) | 22:11 |
juiceme | ... it seemed so easy but now I am confused... it might be that you are correct | 22:11 |
rZr | if so I will name "Nominations close" as Candidate application close | 22:12 |
rZr | I would | 22:12 |
rZr | and if it is unclear to us | 22:13 |
rZr | it should be also for community :) | 22:13 |
juiceme | yes | 22:13 |
rZr | it does not tell when 2. is starting | 22:13 |
juiceme | So you are OK with my interpretation? (since that's how it was done on previous elections) | 22:14 |
rZr | actually I dont recall | 22:14 |
juiceme | same here | 22:14 |
juiceme | I thought I knew it... now I have to confess I am not sure | 22:14 |
rZr | lol | 22:15 |
rZr | we definitly need to replace the council ;) | 22:15 |
rZr | sixwheeledbeast1, ping ping ping | 22:15 |
rZr | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q2_2014 | 22:16 |
rZr | not very helpful | 22:16 |
rZr | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q2_2013 | 22:16 |
rZr | that one is clear | 22:16 |
rZr | juiceme, so you're right | 22:16 |
juiceme | on 2013 there are 2 elections ongoing at the same time | 22:17 |
juiceme | otherwice, yes | 22:17 |
rZr | Anyway this it's set as TBA | 22:19 |
rZr | it would be nice to shift a bit to make sure all applications are sent to the list | 22:19 |
rZr | if not done already | 22:19 |
juiceme | yes | 22:20 |
rZr | ok so are you ok to retitle as | 22:20 |
juiceme | I hope those who have been thinking about it will post early | 22:20 |
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rZr | candidate application deadline / list published | 22:20 |
rZr | hi peterleinchen | 22:20 |
juiceme | and those that have announced on TMO will announce on the list ASAP | 22:20 |
peterleinchen | hi | 22:20 |
juiceme | peterleinchen! ho! | 22:20 |
rZr | peterleinchen, hope everything will get better your side soon | 22:21 |
juiceme | so how's your dad? | 22:21 |
peterleinchen | in hospital | 22:21 |
rZr | so his my grandma | 22:21 |
rZr | is | 22:21 |
peterleinchen | fever and more ... | 22:21 |
peterleinchen | came back home and daughter 39 | 22:21 |
peterleinchen | :( | 22:22 |
rZr | annoying .. if you need more time please tell us | 22:22 |
rZr | we can try to make it fast | 22:22 |
rZr | so to sum up | 22:22 |
peterleinchen | I am in bed now ;) | 22:22 |
rZr | there is a litle question about the delay about | 22:22 |
juiceme | yes, we have been talking about the announcement times | 22:22 |
rZr | the delay between | 22:22 |
peterleinchen | RzR, good work in wiki :) thx | 22:22 |
rZr | Nominations close -13 Dec 2014 | 22:22 |
rZr | and | 22:22 |
rZr | List of candidates announced - TBA | 22:23 |
rZr | juiceme, thinks it will happend a nanosecond after | 22:23 |
peterleinchen | yeah today I asked myself why is there 2 weeks between | 22:23 |
rZr | while I think they should be a delay to give to the nominees to declare themselves candidates | 22:23 |
rZr | I think there should be | 22:24 |
rZr | awww my English is terrible | 22:24 |
rZr | actually my French is even worse | 22:24 |
juiceme | heh | 22:24 |
juiceme | well we could not find an exact defilition of the periods | 22:25 |
rZr | let's make them now | 22:25 |
rZr | this is our job | 22:25 |
rZr | sooner it is | 22:25 |
rZr | better it is | 22:25 |
juiceme | and I was thinking like, announcemet needs to be done _during_ the nomination period | 22:25 |
juiceme | ya | 22:26 |
juiceme | and I am pretty sure that was so previously; the contemplation period after the nominations is for discussing things with candidates | 22:27 |
peterleinchen | but what? I even cannot remember last time :( | 22:27 |
juiceme | indeed,neither do we | 22:28 |
peterleinchen | :) | 22:28 |
peterleinchen | but now it is so. | 22:28 |
peterleinchen | and it seems to match election rules. | 22:28 |
juiceme | actually the election rules say nothing about contemplation | 22:28 |
juiceme | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Election_process | 22:28 |
peterleinchen | yes not explicitly | 22:29 |
juiceme | so that seems to be an addition done later.,..? | 22:29 |
rZr | 2014-12-13 : Deadline to nominate members | 22:29 |
rZr | 2014-12-17 : Deadline for candidate declararion | 22:29 |
rZr | 2014-12-18 : Publication of candidates list | 22:29 |
rZr | 2014-12-19 : (contemplation period) | 22:29 |
rZr | 2014-12-28 : Voting opens | 22:29 |
rZr | 2015-01-03 : Voting close | 22:29 |
rZr | 2015-01-?? : Results announced | 22:29 |
juiceme | okay by me | 22:29 |
juiceme | we can do it that way if we so decide | 22:30 |
rZr | ok for 17 ? | 22:30 |
rZr | or 16 | 22:30 |
rZr | since we have the meeting the 16th | 22:31 |
rZr | it could be over | 22:31 |
rZr | but maybe not | 22:31 |
rZr | but since peterleinchen use to post mininutes the day after | 22:31 |
juiceme | we could announce the final list in meeting | 22:31 |
rZr | it will be ok | 22:31 |
rZr | ok 20:00 UTC | 22:31 |
juiceme | so that'll be an exception to the rule, that all periods end 23:59? | 22:32 |
rZr | ok | 22:32 |
rZr | peterleinchen, if it's ok for you I put this on wikipage | 22:33 |
rZr | hope it's more clear | 22:33 |
peterleinchen | then why not extend candidate nomination to happen until 20th ? | 22:34 |
rZr | if we make a little pressure on candidates we have it could be over before .. | 22:34 |
peterleinchen | but I/we made schedule to rules or at least we interpreted | 22:34 |
rZr | because I suppose most of them will be busy w/ xmass etc | 22:34 |
rZr | so it would be too late if we want to close the vote on early jan | 22:35 |
juiceme | yes, this needs to be over well before holidays | 22:35 |
rZr | this date was announced | 22:35 |
rZr | unsure it is wize to shift it now | 22:35 |
rZr | let me check your previous report | 22:36 |
peterleinchen | no. not shifting the voting | 22:36 |
rZr | to make sure it is aligned to what is on wiki | 22:36 |
rZr | http://maemo.org/community/council/q4_2014_community_council_election_announcement/ | 22:36 |
juiceme | I agree, voting is fixed to the dates already | 22:36 |
rZr | Contemplation period starts on Sunday 14th of December 2014 and continues until 27th of December 2014. | 22:36 |
rZr | this is on clear | 22:37 |
rZr | there is no ambiguity | 22:37 |
rZr | sorry for confusion | 22:37 |
peterleinchen | and here is election rule: | 22:37 |
peterleinchen | Nominations will be accepted 2 weeks before the election begins from any community member with a karma of 100 or above. | 22:37 |
peterleinchen | that I read 13th is deadline, not 16/17 | 22:38 |
rZr | the reason of my confusion | 22:38 |
rZr | I thought that Nomination is before Declaration | 22:38 |
rZr | I assume in this context it is the same | 22:38 |
rZr | juiceme, right ? | 22:38 |
juiceme | as I stated, I thought 13 dec is the deadline when announcement to accept nomination needs to be made | 22:39 |
peterleinchen | nominee is someone who declared to go for council | 22:39 |
juiceme | ... or that was my solemn view before rzr challenged it :) | 22:40 |
peterleinchen | juiceme, yes | 22:40 |
rZr | ok thanks | 22:40 |
rZr | forget all I said | 22:40 |
juiceme | that OK with you? | 22:40 |
peterleinchen | but still my question is: what to these two weeks? ;) | 22:40 |
juiceme | as the list you posted above also makes sense | 22:41 |
rZr | actually | 22:41 |
rZr | http://maemo.org/community/council/q4_2014_community_council_election_announcement/ | 22:41 |
juiceme | I thought the 2 weeks were for discussion betwween candidates & voters, to familiarize with and get to know on whom to vote. | 22:42 |
rZr | is matching the dates at : | 22:42 |
rZr | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Election_timetable | 22:42 |
rZr | and program setup ? | 22:42 |
peterleinchen | juiceme, yes | 22:43 |
peterleinchen | and more to let them post their "declaration text" on wiki | 22:43 |
rZr | yea that's it | 22:43 |
peterleinchen | and give time for setting up election | 22:43 |
rZr | this can be done now | 22:43 |
rZr | but the deadline should be clear to all | 22:44 |
peterleinchen | so only deadline is mailing list! | 22:44 |
juiceme | deadline has been communicated | 22:44 |
peterleinchen | should be published/reminded once more on tmoĆ? | 22:44 |
rZr | so we'ok | 22:44 |
juiceme | and we can remind the ones not postd to ML yet | 22:44 |
rZr | but those TBA are confusion | 22:44 |
rZr | but those TBA are confusing | 22:44 |
peterleinchen | rzr, yes | 22:45 |
juiceme | okay, you can remove them then. | 22:45 |
rZr | yea | 22:45 |
rZr | and tell me again | 22:45 |
rZr | if I am wrong of not | 22:45 |
rZr | but a candidate is a nominee until he declare to the ml | 22:45 |
rZr | So Nominations close -13 Dec 2014 | 22:45 |
rZr | and | 22:46 |
rZr | List of candidates announced - TBA | 22:46 |
rZr | is suggesting there is a delay between | 22:46 |
juiceme | but it could be one minute | 22:46 |
rZr | I guess I am not the only one that get trapped since I almost conviced juiceme ;) | 22:46 |
juiceme | hehh | 22:46 |
peterleinchen | yeah, like 2 days or so. to fetch list and post | 22:47 |
peterleinchen | you two :) | 22:47 |
rZr | ok to remove the 1st 2 TBAs in | 22:50 |
rZr | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q4_2014#Election_timetable | 22:50 |
rZr | ? | 22:50 |
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rZr | hi Win7Mac | 22:50 |
Win7Mac | huh, guys, wait a sec, reading log | 22:50 |
juiceme | Win7Mac, hi :) | 22:50 |
peterleinchen | heyho | 22:51 |
rZr | anyway if deadline is 13th | 22:52 |
rZr | let me focus on contacting the nominees | 22:52 |
rZr | we have enough for now | 22:52 |
rZr | just assist them to post to the mailing list | 22:52 |
rZr | right ? | 22:53 |
Win7Mac | peterleinchen hit the nail: "Nominations will be accepted 2 weeks before the election begins" | 22:53 |
rZr | yea | 22:54 |
juiceme | indeed, but we went into semantics on what to do during each period := | 22:54 |
Win7Mac | but i agree that "contemplation period" in future (if introduced in referendum) may be used for nominees to accept | 22:55 |
* rZr stares at chainsawbike | 22:55 | |
Win7Mac | ...since then a discussion is supposed to happen | 22:55 |
juiceme | yes | 22:56 |
juiceme | but as for now, shall we continue as agreed? | 22:57 |
peterleinchen | yep | 22:57 |
juiceme | nominations to the ML have to be posted before UTC 23:59 on the 13 december | 22:57 |
peterleinchen | but good to get it confirmed :) | 22:58 |
peterleinchen | juiceme, yes | 22:58 |
juiceme | and so final list of candidates can be published the next day, for example | 22:58 |
peterleinchen | right no we have only three, right? | 22:58 |
juiceme | yes three have confirmed | 22:59 |
juiceme | and we need to remind the ones that have announced on TMO that they need to post to ML | 22:59 |
peterleinchen | put the link to mailing list into tmo? | 22:59 |
juiceme | yes, that would be fine. | 23:00 |
Win7Mac | right, thanks | 23:01 |
peterleinchen | which one? | 23:01 |
peterleinchen | candidates or official announce thread? | 23:01 |
juiceme | Win7Mac, BTW, I am happy that all nominees have more than 100 karma | 23:01 |
juiceme | I calculated karma for pichlo and htheb, and they pass with flying colours | 23:03 |
juiceme | peterleinchen, both, please :) | 23:03 |
Win7Mac | great | 23:04 |
rZr | anything else ? | 23:05 |
rZr | I'll try to update this wiki in real time to make it easier to have them all contacted | 23:05 |
rZr | I sent some messages already | 23:05 |
juiceme | rZr, thanks | 23:05 |
Win7Mac | rZr: awesome, many thanks! | 23:05 |
juiceme | nothing else from me | 23:05 |
* peterleinchen has done | 23:06 | |
rZr | ok good | 23:06 |
* rZr see that's Win7Mac signature is not yet infected by the election virus | 23:06 | |
juiceme | :) | 23:07 |
Win7Mac | peterleinchen hat fertig... | 23:07 |
Win7Mac | I'm posting in community threads only, so no real need for that... | 23:07 |
peterleinchen | win7mac, :) | 23:07 |
juiceme | okay, one final thing before we close | 23:07 |
peterleinchen | yes? | 23:08 |
juiceme | candidacy of the current council, that is :) | 23:08 |
peterleinchen | did not risk to ask ;) | 23:08 |
Win7Mac | all of you! | 23:08 |
Win7Mac | ;) | 23:08 |
juiceme | :p | 23:08 |
peterleinchen | but then no fresh blood | 23:08 |
Win7Mac | 2 more seats to fill | 23:09 |
juiceme | It is true, fresh blood is needed, and there are so many good candidates | 23:09 |
Win7Mac | but who knows who votes who? | 23:09 |
juiceme | besides, it may be we are not wanted to continue :) | 23:09 |
peterleinchen | I would go one more but yeah there are really good candidates | 23:09 |
peterleinchen | juiceme, you are a good guy ;) | 23:10 |
peterleinchen | so I am undecided yet | 23:10 |
juiceme | thanks, I _try_ to be. But I cna be a real bitch when cornered :) | 23:10 |
Win7Mac | juiceme is the cement between board + council. I would love to see that continue. I believe it is needed ATM. | 23:11 |
juiceme | and I do have just too much to do, but still. Being in the council is fun. | 23:11 |
peterleinchen | +100 | 23:11 |
peterleinchen | to both of you | 23:11 |
juiceme | so I am prepared to be nominee for the next round. | 23:11 |
peterleinchen | what the heck, me too | 23:12 |
juiceme | I will announce on the ML today, and I hope you'll too :) | 23:12 |
Win7Mac | YEA! :)))) | 23:12 |
rZr | juiceme, I see you belong to the undecided group for now :) | 23:12 |
rZr | let me fix that | 23:12 |
juiceme | yes, "announcers-on-irc" group | 23:12 |
peterleinchen | dealine is 13th 23:59 UTC :D | 23:12 |
peterleinchen | will do on tmo now but also say yi might like others to win! | 23:13 |
peterleinchen | s/yi/I/ | 23:14 |
juiceme | Will do so :) | 23:14 |
peterleinchen | anymore unclear? | 23:14 |
peterleinchen | rZr, and you? | 23:15 |
juiceme | coming with us? :) | 23:15 |
rZr | I will if candidates program's suck | 23:15 |
rZr | ;) | 23:15 |
juiceme | ya :) | 23:15 |
rZr | so make sure to polish yours | 23:15 |
peterleinchen | :) mine will be: one more time! | 23:16 |
Win7Mac | hehehe | 23:16 |
rZr | mine was terrible | 23:17 |
rZr | I said It wont promised anything | 23:17 |
rZr | and I did not lie | 23:17 |
peterleinchen | so was/will be mine | 23:17 |
rZr | but let's see what is going on | 23:18 |
juiceme | but that leaves room to improve right? :)( | 23:18 |
rZr | and it would be good to have more declared candidate | 23:18 |
rZr | i see this at top priority | 23:18 |
rZr | how many we had last time ? | 23:18 |
rZr | was it enough ? | 23:18 |
peterleinchen | yes last time 8@or so | 23:20 |
peterleinchen | juiceme, I just did :) | 23:20 |
juiceme | yes, we had good candidates then too | 23:20 |
Win7Mac | 10... http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=37 | 23:20 |
peterleinchen | then got aware that gerbick will also go? :) | 23:21 |
peterleinchen | win7mac, that much really? | 23:21 |
Win7Mac | really | 23:21 |
rZr | so we should able to do twice as much | 23:23 |
rZr | 3+5 = 8 said they want to | 23:23 |
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* rZr https://twitter.com/RzrFreeFr/status/543155346857283584 | 23:28 | |
* rZr http://www.reddit.com/r/maemo/comments/2ower6/the_maemo_community_council_will_have_its_next/ | 23:29 | |
juiceme | allright, done it :) | 23:29 |
Win7Mac | dude, hold your horses... | 23:29 |
rZr | nothing can stop me now | 23:30 |
juiceme | :) | 23:30 |
rZr | If the new council replace us | 23:30 |
rZr | we're free | 23:30 |
rZr | ;) | 23:30 |
juiceme | yippee :) | 23:31 |
peterleinchen | juiceme, just landed in inbox same time :) | 23:32 |
Win7Mac | rZr, but we want candidates to be *maemo.org users, not someone from somewhere, right? | 23:32 |
peterleinchen | will do only very short one (longer belongs to wiki) | 23:32 |
Win7Mac | texrat may be hard to reach though | 23:32 |
peterleinchen | juiceme, erm. why Q1 2015? | 23:33 |
juiceme | Win7Mac, well it is impossible for someone just come in, so good to raise awardness :) | 23:33 |
rZr | Win7Mac, someone from anywhere as long he has a good maemo karma | 23:33 |
juiceme | wot, that's the term, right? | 23:33 |
Win7Mac | ok | 23:33 |
rZr | I am wondering if maemo will attract microsoft lumia users someday | 23:34 |
peterleinchen | hmm all wiki say 14 2014... | 23:34 |
rZr | 14? | 23:35 |
juiceme | well yes, that's the elections but the term is q1/2015 | 23:35 |
peterleinchen | q4 | 23:35 |
peterleinchen | doesnt matter :) | 23:35 |
juiceme | or again, I wrote quicker than I think :) | 23:35 |
Win7Mac | peterleinchen, cut your fingernails... ;) | 23:35 |
juiceme | not so unusual for me... | 23:36 |
peterleinchen | win7mac, ??? | 23:36 |
Win7Mac | q4 > 14 | 23:36 |
Win7Mac | wrong key, 1 is right above q on german keyboard | 23:37 |
juiceme | same on the finnish layout | 23:38 |
Win7Mac | nevermind... | 23:38 |
peterleinchen | my nails are short, cannot imagine how that happened! ;) | 23:39 |
Win7Mac | ;) | 23:40 |
juiceme | I frequently get letters mixed, not the way I hit a nearby letter but the way I hit keys in wrong sequence, like "teh" when I mean "the"... have not yet found out if it really is because I type so fast or is it a problem in the way I see the world :) | 23:42 |
* peterleinchen has done also | 23:42 | |
peterleinchen | you got mail :) | 23:42 |
Win7Mac | yay! | 23:43 |
rZr | meanwhile https://www.reddit.com/r/thepiratebay/comments/2ouhkm/list_of_fake_thepiratebay_sites_will_keep_updating/ | 23:43 |
rZr | maybe maemo will have to face face maemo sites someday too... if we dont take care of it | 23:44 |
rZr | have to face faKe sites | 23:44 |
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juiceme | how cool would that be :) | 23:45 |
Win7Mac | hehehe | 23:45 |
juiceme | kolp, hi :) | 23:45 |
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kolp__ | looks like my connection is flaky at best :/ | 23:47 |
juiceme | kolp__, using a mobile device? | 23:48 |
kolp__ | nope | 23:48 |
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rZr | do you know http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page ? | 23:48 |
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rZr | http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Nokia_Memories | 23:48 |
rZr | should I link this to our wiki | 23:49 |
juiceme | haven't seen that before | 23:49 |
rZr | linked to http://wiki.maemo.org/Nokia | 23:49 |
juiceme | yeah, that's typical when you rely on online storage for your important stuff | 23:50 |
juiceme | sooner or later thy are going to stop the service or chane terms & conditions :( | 23:50 |
rZr | or is exploited | 23:51 |
peterleinchen | I am done for today | 23:52 |
juiceme | yes | 23:52 |
juiceme | same for me, soon to bed | 23:52 |
peterleinchen | lemme say gn8 | 23:52 |
peterleinchen | council is on a good way ... | 23:53 |
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juiceme | nite, then :) | 23:54 |
rZr | bybye | 23:55 |
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