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| rZr | hi few % chances I'll manage to be at today meeting | 16:53 |
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| rZr | I'll try but dont wait for me | 16:53 |
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| juiceme | hi! | 23:01 |
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| juiceme | just a note, let's keep it short now, I gotta so sleep pretty soon, exhausted | 23:01 |
| peterleinchen_ | \o | 23:01 |
| juiceme | peterleinchen_, o/ | 23:01 |
| peterleinchen_ | exactly my wording, need to go very early on bus. trip | 23:02 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:02 |
| peterleinchen_ | so what's up? | 23:02 |
| peterleinchen_ | online via mobile (slow...) | 23:03 |
| peterleinchen_ | who is here? | 23:03 |
| peterleinchen_ | just juiceme? | 23:03 |
| juiceme | not much for me, I have to admit I have not started that thread about the referendum yet. I'd like to source win2mac first... | 23:03 |
| juiceme | just us wolves here :) | 23:04 |
| peterleinchen_ | niel and rzr not here | 23:04 |
| peterleinchen_ | Doc??? | 23:04 |
| juiceme | niel mailed about not making it tonight | 23:04 |
| juiceme | have not seen Doc | 23:04 |
| peterleinchen_ | okay? I believe Win7Mac also sent mail. chemist? | 23:05 |
| peterleinchen_ | looks like we can make it short then akaj | 23:05 |
| juiceme | yes. | 23:06 |
| juiceme | anything special on your mind? | 23:06 |
| juiceme | BTW, thanks for the minutes :) | 23:06 |
| peterleinchen_ | you are all welcome :) | 23:06 |
| peterleinchen_ | but made a mistake (or midgard ;) | 23:07 |
| juiceme | it happens. too bad there's no preview :( | 23:07 |
| peterleinchen_ | submitted all 7 minutes but midgard only committed 5 latest to TMO | 23:07 |
| juiceme | you have to get it reasonably correct the first time | 23:08 |
| juiceme | oh? | 23:08 |
| peterleinchen_ | yep | 23:08 |
| juiceme | hmm there must be some kind of limit on hou much it queues up... | 23:08 |
| juiceme | they never thought there's bs so much news back-to-back :) | 23:08 |
| peterleinchen_ | yep: 5 (on each run) | 23:09 |
| peterleinchen_ | seems it runs only each few mintes | 23:09 |
| peterleinchen_ | then posted the missing ones once again to get it to TMO and then deleted those from maemo.org | 23:10 |
| peterleinchen_ | but that created two dead links on those posts | 23:11 |
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| peterleinchen_ | hmm, I can live with that ;) | 23:11 |
| * sixwheeledbeast1 waves and then changes nick... | 23:11 | |
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| juiceme | Win7Mac o/ | 23:11 |
| peterleinchen_ | hi | 23:11 |
| Win7Mac | hi | 23:11 |
| juiceme | sixwheeledbeast o/ | 23:11 |
| peterleinchen_ | so lets talk about wiwki and spammer ? | 23:12 |
| peterleinchen_ | Win7Mac: do you have any more infos on that? | 23:13 |
| juiceme | well, those thinks cannot be helped IMHO. was it a cracked/hijacked account? | 23:13 |
| Win7Mac | peterleinchen_, infos on wiwki and spammer? | 23:13 |
| Win7Mac | - no | 23:14 |
| peterleinchen_ | nope as I understood xes, it was an attack from known spam IP range | 23:14 |
| peterleinchen_ | okay | 23:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | wiki generally has spam but I have normally cleaned it up before anyone notices. | 23:15 |
| peterleinchen_ | xes and warfare are alarmed and trying to protect, as there was more trying ... | 23:15 |
| juiceme | that's very good action. | 23:15 |
| peterleinchen_ | sixwheeledbeast: thx | 23:16 |
| juiceme | but doesn't it require an account to edit wiki? or is that just some parts of it? | 23:16 |
| xes | hi guys, i have just installed an antispammers protection for wiki and bugs updated 2 times a day | 23:16 |
| juiceme | so no account was compromised? | 23:16 |
| juiceme | xes, o/ | 23:16 |
| Win7Mac | xes, awesome, thanks | 23:16 |
| sixwheeledbeast | anyway techstaff have now introduced a spam blocker with known IP's | 23:16 |
| juiceme | xes, excellent | 23:16 |
| peterleinchen_ | xes: BIG thanks | 23:16 |
| xes | ;) | 23:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | juiceme: the whole point of a wiki is to allow all to edit. So gather as much info as possible. | 23:18 |
| juiceme | yes | 23:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | no issues with accounts and haven't been for a long time. | 23:18 |
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| juiceme | Win7Mac, I wanted still to ask about the referendum | 23:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | accounts are easy to block anyway compared to a IP range, this couldn't be done in mediawiki. | 23:19 |
| juiceme | as I am not sure how to start conversaton thread about it | 23:19 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | well AFAIK not our version anyway. | 23:20 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme: well, that's basically up to you ;) | 23:20 |
| juiceme | RzR, o/ | 23:20 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac, I mean, how to put it so it does not scare people and put up defensive reaction...? | 23:20 |
| Win7Mac | I suggested - specify council duties so that it remains the major active party of community work AND honours the fact that Nokia got replaced by our own community organization, not only in regards to board | 23:20 |
| Win7Mac | - rework council election rules incl. §6 (professional interests) and honoring the fact that Karma system is borked ATM, which results in inaccurate calculation of electorate and candidates. This may serve as an interim solution in hope of Karma system being repairable. | 23:20 |
| Win7Mac | hi RzR | 23:21 |
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| juiceme | Win7Mac, thanks, I'll try to work from those viewpoints. | 23:25 |
| peterleinchen_ | Win/Mac: rework rules in which direction? | 23:26 |
| peterleinchen_ | regarding the electorates (karma)?? | 23:26 |
| Win7Mac | re §6: a) there is no Nokia Community anymore and guys with a commercial interest should be director or councilor | 23:26 |
| Win7Mac | ...and b) guys... | 23:27 |
| Win7Mac | should NOT | 23:27 |
| peterleinchen_ | I understand correctly: NO guys with commercial interest | 23:27 |
| juiceme | yes | 23:27 |
| Win7Mac | yes, sorry | 23:27 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:27 |
| juiceme | easy to say exact opposite wat meant :) | 23:28 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen_ | but council will still be voted from masses | 23:28 |
| Win7Mac | re karma: we need to figure out with techstaff and woody | 23:29 |
| Win7Mac | yes, council will still be voted from masses | 23:29 |
| peterleinchen_ | "masses" ;) | 23:29 |
| Win7Mac | community | 23:29 |
| peterleinchen_ | better wording :) | 23:30 |
| peterleinchen_ | juiceme: chemist should be able tocorrect the links in MoM TMO posts, right? | 23:32 |
| Win7Mac | MoM TMO? | 23:32 |
| juiceme | yes, that was another thing I was thinking of; who has power to edit the main Maemo pages. Probably Chemost, but who else? | 23:33 |
| juiceme | s/Chemost/Chemist/ | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen_ | win7mac: read first lines pls | 23:34 |
| peterleinchen_ | juicem: xes, warfare , ??? | 23:34 |
| juiceme | altough I was not thinking of the postings/news items, rather the main pages, like http://maemo.org/ and such... | 23:34 |
| peterleinchen_ | my kyboard :( | 23:34 |
| juiceme | peterleinchen_, probably, but it would be nice to know all the people who have that access level. | 23:35 |
| juiceme | but hey. | 23:35 |
| juiceme | now I need to sign off | 23:35 |
| juiceme | l8er! | 23:37 |
| peterleinchen_ | juiceme: night | 23:37 |
| Win7Mac | re specify council duties: "The Council's mission is to represent the Maemo community's best interests, and to act as a community conduit for Nokia-generated information." | 23:38 |
| Win7Mac | needs rework | 23:39 |
| Win7Mac | ...no Nokia-generated information anymore ;) | 23:39 |
| peterleinchen_ | s/Nokia-generated/e.V.-generated/ ? | 23:40 |
| Win7Mac | besides that, board already exectutes Council's (and General Assembly's!) rulings, see MC eV bylaws §7 (5): https://etherpad.mozilla.org/AMabik4zeD | 23:43 |
| Win7Mac | sure e.V.-generated | 23:43 |
| Win7Mac | guys like us, techstaff, devs and acive supporters should become "regular" members/general meeting | 23:46 |
| Win7Mac | that's what an eV is about: MEMBERS organize community life... | 23:47 |
| peterleinchen_ | are "regular members" allowed to become council member or another question: are allowed to vote for council? | 23:48 |
| peterleinchen_ | just looking at the pic does not reveal (on first glance) | 23:49 |
| Win7Mac | sure, all regular members still are community/associated memebrs | 23:49 |
| peterleinchen_ | win7mac: good | 23:50 |
| Win7Mac | sure, I had no plans for a coup d'etat ;) | 23:51 |
| peterleinchen_ | :) no my concerns were the other way round: all regular member, no candidates/voters for council anymore | 23:52 |
| Win7Mac | council members may remain community/associated members | 23:53 |
| Win7Mac | they are ofc welcome, but there is no requirement | 23:54 |
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