IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2014-04-01

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juicemeo/22:02
juicemechem|st, DocScrutinizer05, you there?22:09
DocScrutinizer05juiceme: well, not really22:19
juicemeokay.22:19
juicemenothing much on the agenda anyway.22:19
DocScrutinizer05yeah, particularly not on *my* agenda22:19
juicemethough I wanted to ask about the expiring certificates.22:19
DocScrutinizer05*shrug*22:20
juicemeokay22:20
DocScrutinizer05HiFo told me it's not my business anymore22:20
juicemehmm, I think they overreacted there22:20
DocScrutinizer05I'm completely fed up with this bitching22:21
juicemeI thought that's been resolved now?22:21
DocScrutinizer05IOW, I'm out but nobody noticed it yet22:21
DocScrutinizer05yes, resolved. Maemo is dead, as far as I'm concerned22:21
juicemeI think that's sad if you decide to do so, altough undestandable22:21
DocScrutinizer05you may ask me for help with the daunting task of coordinating elections that's bending for you as chair of council22:23
DocScrutinizer05though I have no idea how to conduct proper elections while the administrative and the services are in a state like this22:24
juicemewell, that's something that needs to be taken care of. And I do need help, as I am not that familiar with procedures.22:24
DocScrutinizer05but then, I don't care about this detail either, since... see above22:24
juicemeyes, but I hope and trust we can make this work again, that we can have a fresh start22:25
DocScrutinizer05seems HiFo is about to redefine everything that been maemo22:25
juicemewell, as far as I understand HiFo is about to be dismembered, pretty soon22:26
DocScrutinizer05I don't care22:26
juicemeit has served a purpose for a while and is being dinsmantled22:26
DocScrutinizer05HiFo told me I did my job, and the heck yes I did, and now farewell maemo. I have other opportunities to feel abused22:28
DocScrutinizer05I'm not the garbage bin for HiFo and other people with personal psychological problems22:28
juicemeI have understood that you did your job well, and it is a job that somebody needs to do. There were people that did not see that, but that does not mean that everybody thinks so.22:29
juicemeevery time somebody leaves, some information is lost forever from that organization22:30
DocScrutinizer05no info lost, it's all in my head and I can access it any time I want.22:31
juiceme:)22:32
DocScrutinizer05and those who were listening and cooperating instead of pimping up their self esteem know danm well that all info is (or at least was, when they only had listened) available elsewhere too22:32
juicemewhat I mean, if you do not want to continue, somebody else needs to try to get into your shoes and there's bound to be _lots_ to learn22:33
DocScrutinizer05I don't see anybody thinking like this22:33
DocScrutinizer05my position is obsolete, you know? ask HiFo22:33
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juicemewell I don't think so. and HiFo is obsolete anyway soon22:34
DocScrutinizer05I don't care22:34
DocScrutinizer05I'm done with this madhouse22:35
DocScrutinizer05errr kindergarden22:35
juicemesometimes it feels like kindergarten, yes. Madhouses are more organized :)22:35
DocScrutinizer05now chemist is one of 2 in council, you can decide whatever you want, or stall forever in a clinch about colliding opinions, about whatever22:37
juicemeI am confident we all can work together. I don't want this all going down the drain now22:38
DocScrutinizer05and since chemist also is talkmaster and meber of council, I don't see him failing on doing whatever he thinks is OK for maemo. No mateer what anybody else might think about it. Let's hope he tries to do the right things22:38
juicemeyes22:39
DocScrutinizer05tell that HiFo and particularly woody and chemist22:39
DocScrutinizer05I'm out22:39
DocScrutinizer05honestly when I want to feel dispair, I read the newspaper. When I wanna feel the whip, I choose a beauty looking bitch for that, not somebody like chemist22:40
DocScrutinizer05and when I want people to spread sneaky lies about me, I start a thread in tmo, I don't need HiFo for that22:41
juicememmh, I see your point, too. it is too bad people go to personalities when matters of opinion differ22:41
DocScrutinizer05so, consider me "on holiday" wrt council and maemo at large, until next council elections, which iirc should start in less than 4 weeks22:44
DocScrutinizer05on next elections the latest, I'm no longer available for anything in maemo#22:44
juicemethat's going to be some hurry there. and also a topic to talk about the organization. And the state of the voting machine.22:45
DocScrutinizer05cya22:45
juicemebye22:45
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