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| DocScrutinizer05 | hi | 22:00 |
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| Win7Mac | hi! | 22:02 |
| Win7Mac | Doc, I can't access ZNC acoount any more | 22:04 |
| Win7Mac | is that on purpose? | 22:05 |
| chem|st | o/ | 22:07 |
| juiceme | o/ | 22:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, that's just a side effect of me cleaning up stuff for shutting down a few of my servers | 22:10 |
| Win7Mac | ok, np thanks for the stay | 22:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HiFo, i hope you all received my mail about off-site backup of maemo | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | techstaff will not care anymore after this last effort to sort that issue, when we can't find a solution | 22:13 |
| juiceme | just a minute, just noticed your mail... | 22:14 |
| chem|st | I am now down to eric for asking for the right contact for anything as neither carsten nor carol came back to me, will try carsten once more | 22:15 |
| juiceme | Doc, what are the requirements for the backup (size, connectivity, ...?) | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | juiceme: chem|st: since HiFo ignores me, I delegate this probelm about securing maemo,org afainst fatal data loss to you now | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | juiceme: 4TB, 1Gb | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | preferrably unlimited traffic | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and you'll need a sysop managing that sorage site | 22:18 |
| juiceme | 4TB is daoble, easy, but the bw is a bit on the highh side... | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | techstaff is not planning to do any such management | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not even sure our sysops have time to do a setup of the service again | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the alternative to get two USB harddrives to do a on-site copy of the complete server to portable storage is basically off the table, since it would need Falk to move to IPHH and sit there and wait for the disks to get copied | 22:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | up to HiFo if they want to gamble with maemo,org's fate. I'm just denying any responsibility what's going to happen to maemo.org after end of this month | 22:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when magic smoke escapes from that supermicro at IPHH, not my fault. I got my personal backups of everything I need | 22:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and since HiFo seems to not care, why should techstaff? | 22:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we're all fed up | 22:26 |
| juiceme | I do sympathize, it is fairly thankless job. | 22:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not, unless your requests and warnings get ignored | 22:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it for sure is when you have to take the bashing and get blamed about blackmailing HiFo when you point at a problem | 22:30 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: you said it is covered and you don't need any money atm, with that it is off the table until you ask for payment again, so what is the point? | 22:31 |
| juiceme | I am thinking, does it make sense to rent some storage from Amazon to upload the backup there... | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I never saaid anything is covered | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I said I'll probably keep up the service until end of march | 22:32 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: you told me that it is covered for now after I replied to a mail about this topic | 22:32 |
| juiceme | If I remember correctly thet have a service where you can upload basically unlimited data to backup, and it only costs something to dowwnloaad that back when you need it.. (and even that was not too expensive) | 22:32 |
| chem|st | I gave my +1 on reimbursement... | 22:33 |
| juiceme | I will donate, only too bad my financial situation is such that asolute maximum I can give is 50eur/month or something... | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, I recall that | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | juiceme: 50EUR/mo is all it needs | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I'm not willing to continue taking care about that on my own risk and expense, hoping for somebody maybe contributing via donations to a deprecated private paypal account that never really been meant to get used for that stuff | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while taking all the bashing for doing exactly that | 22:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I did that for a year and some, now | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's enough | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd be willing to transfer one amount from A to B, not more | 22:39 |
| juiceme | A and B being...? | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | A = HiFo, B = service | 22:40 |
| juiceme | ah, sure | 22:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm starting to reconsider if I'm even willing to do that much | 22:41 |
| juiceme | well, considering HiFo funds are not that much if I have understood it correctly then it is maybe too tedious to handle it | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 22:43 |
| chem|st | what is your opinion on the proposed e.V. bylaws and structures? | 22:46 |
| Win7Mac | what juiceme just mentioned as final draft in the meeting minutes is not possible AFAIK. | 23:00 |
| Win7Mac | latest drafts: http://i.imgur.com/BNUVs23.png and http://i.imgur.com/nIHoMko.png | 23:00 |
| Win7Mac | when this gets resolved, I can soon finalize the bylaws and complimenting docs in german and then have them translated | 23:07 |
| chainsawbike | well i favor this option http://i.imgur.com/BNUVs23.png - as from my view the the extra division will only have a very small gain at a cost of more admin overhead | 23:15 |
| Win7Mac | thanks! | 23:16 |
| Win7Mac | but the other option shouldn't mean admin overhead - only purpose of the election-commitee is to vote for board | 23:19 |
| Win7Mac | all other duties/rights remain where they were before (in the other draft) | 23:21 |
| Win7Mac | And I would esp. like to hear councilors opinions! | 23:22 |
| chainsawbike | i was assuming that the board-election committee had other members - is it just current board and council or am i missing something? | 23:31 |
| Win7Mac | council and board form the board-election committee, no other members in there | 23:32 |
| Win7Mac | other regular members have their say in the general assembly | 23:33 |
| Win7Mac | actually this http://i.imgur.com/nIHoMko.png is closer to last weeks draft/agreement | 23:34 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme: your take on this ^^ | 23:36 |
| Win7Mac | ? | 23:36 |
| juiceme | sorry | 23:40 |
| juiceme | I was away for a whie | 23:40 |
| chainsawbike | ok then, from my point of view the only differences would be in legal things ( cannot read German so no opinion ) and isolating the board election to a small group - a risk but should be better in the long run as you want the board to be "steady" | 23:40 |
| Win7Mac | basicalyy yes | 23:41 |
| Win7Mac | but why would it be a risk? | 23:41 |
| Win7Mac | or in what regard? | 23:41 |
| Win7Mac | main part is council | 23:42 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac, I cannot open the picture from imgur | 23:50 |
| Win7Mac | strange | 23:52 |
| Win7Mac | try the links from my last email then? | 23:52 |
| juiceme | ok | 23:53 |
| juiceme | it's the same thing, it does not open | 23:54 |
| Win7Mac | you mean you can't open any pictures on imgur? | 23:55 |
| juiceme | at least not that one | 23:55 |
| Win7Mac | http://i.imgur.com/nIHoMko.png | 23:56 |
| juiceme | i can only see "maemo.org" on the top, under that, nothing | 23:56 |
| juiceme | let me try wget it... | 23:56 |
| juiceme | oh yes, that works :) | 23:57 |
| Win7Mac | :) | 23:57 |
| juiceme | but firefox doesn't, strange... | 23:58 |
| Win7Mac | on a desktop? | 23:59 |
| juiceme | so that's he final one | 23:59 |
| Win7Mac | well, if council agrees, we can go ahead then, yes | 23:59 |
| Win7Mac | HiFo board tends towards this too | 23:59 |
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