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| DocScrutinizer51 | sorry, I'll probably be a few minutes late, walking home right now | 21:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | actually this is a pst that got stuck 8 min ago, I'm already late and still walking | 21:04 |
| kerio | you don't /look/ late | 21:05 |
| thedead1440 | hehe | 21:06 |
| thedead1440 | i won't be able to be around for the full meeting due to a flight early in the morning so i'd like to post freemangordon's request for Council to draft an official response to http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1345746&postcount=1214 | 21:07 |
| * DocScrutinizer51 wonders where's that webcam that told kerio about DocScrutinizer51 's look | 21:07 | |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer: one can be late compared to someone else | 21:07 |
| thedead1440 | its on your n900 ;) | 21:07 |
| kerio | there was nobody here | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | thedead1440: no, thumb on that one | 21:08 |
| thedead1440 | oh then he was the guy who passed by you just now :p | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: you *stink* :-P | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and that shirt looks terrible | 21:10 |
| thedead1440 | lol | 21:12 |
| qwazix | hi all :) | 21:15 |
| thedead1440 | o/ qwazix | 21:15 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | o/ qwazix | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway, could somebody ofmy council peer give a summary om BoD elections and HiFo bank account status? I lost track | 21:16 |
| thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer51: since that's a topic more appropriate for HFC can we settle common topics first like the aforementioned request by fmg? | 21:17 |
| qwazix | I probably missed some news this week but I saw that woody self-nominated for board | 21:17 |
| qwazix | I also chatted with him and he wasn | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | according to age old rule: when you're not on top of it, you're off at best | 21:17 |
| qwazix | scratch that | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi qwazix | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi thedead1440 | 21:23 |
| thedead1440 | wb Doc | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this more and more feels like a XY live gig, doors: 20:00, main act: 22:00 | 21:25 |
| qwazix | hehe | 21:26 |
| thedead1440 | Doc what are your thoughts on the post linked above? | 21:26 |
| thedead1440 | should Council in conjunction with fmg draft a response and inquire if there are possibilities for those codecs arriving on the n900? | 21:27 |
| qwazix | I think it's not a bad idea, though I fear the cost will be unbearable | 21:28 |
| qwazix | btw the i8190 (samsung, symbian) did 720p with the same SoC | 21:28 |
| thedead1440 | i think similarly about the costs hence we have to be tactful in our response showing how we are basically a self-sustaining community with limited resources and would appreciate their co-operation | 21:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | It's worth inquiring IMO | 21:29 |
| thedead1440 | qwazix: samsung is well known to always pay for codecs across all its models since a long time; maybe they did purchase the IP for symbian at that time | 21:29 |
| thedead1440 | s/for codecs/for extra codecs/ | 21:30 |
| qwazix | probably. The phone also had DivX sticker on it. Anyway this is getting off-topic | 21:31 |
| qwazix | And since you brought it up I actually think you are the best person for the job :) | 21:31 |
| thedead1440 | ok i'll liaise with fmg as i'm not well-versed with technical terms and draft a response. will do it in the next 2 days and cc all for approval | 21:32 |
| thedead1440 | any objections/suggestions from the rest? | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: I have no idea. heard of all that first time right 2 min ago | 21:33 |
| thedead1440 | its only 4 posts in all that you have to read | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, that's not true. You don't know how I prepare myself for making a statement on anything. 4 posts will not suffice to do so for sure | 21:34 |
| thedead1440 | actually if you could get yourself interested on this you are best placed to handle it due to your experience with all this stuff | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that however depends on my interest in all that. A short summary would help for sure to decide if I might get interested | 21:37 |
| thedead1440 | i don't mind doing the drafting of a response but you have surely dealt with something like this at one point or another during your openmoko time | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like trying to convince somebody to port his closed source 720p drivers to N900 platform for free | 21:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd honestly think we had way huger problems, but nevermind. People care about what they like to care about | 21:40 |
| thedead1440 | well if its low cost a fund-raiser might help; we wouldn't know how far-fetched the idea is unless some communication with Ittiam is done | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, go for it | 21:41 |
| thedead1440 | as community council we should be getting involved if community members feel an official response should be made | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | response to what? | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | has anybody called us? | 21:41 |
| thedead1440 | response to Ittiam's initial reply | 21:41 |
| thedead1440 | the post i linked has Ittiam's reply | 21:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry tl;dr | 21:42 |
| thedead1440 | Thank you for showing interest towards Ittiam Systems IP. | 21:42 |
| thedead1440 | To answer your question, yes we can port our codecs on Omap 3430 if not already available. | 21:42 |
| thedead1440 | Which IP do you need: Video? Audio? Imaging? | 21:42 |
| thedead1440 | Could we talk about your project? How can I join you? | 21:42 |
| thedead1440 | Sincerely, | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | stop that!! | 21:42 |
| thedead1440 | it is just those 5 lines | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and those 5 lines are about as good as elvish to me | 21:43 |
| thedead1440 | no further communication after that and fmg asked for council to step in and communicate instead of random community members doing so | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since I bnever showed interest, and for sure I won't start do so on such SPAM | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | every 2nd mail of the 500 I get per day starts like "thanks you for showing interest" | 21:44 |
| thedead1440 | its not my fault your spam filter sucks or you engage in communications with people who end up only spamming you | 21:45 |
| thedead1440 | if you have no objections to me drafting a response i'll proceed | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'll for sure not go leeroy jenkins inmidst of a communication that I have no idea how it started and who's involved and what it's all about | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: you're free to response to whatever you like, whole day long | 21:46 |
| thedead1440 | you are over-complicating matters as usual; anyway screw your 1 vote... if the other 3 MCC members have no objections i'll proceed | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I'm out for today | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and if this is the new (and actually old, since MT) council style, I'm out not only for today | 21:47 |
| thedead1440 | i'm not going to waste my time doing a response if all other MCC members think we shouldn't be responding hence my call for objections to be brought forward | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you FUCKING go and announce such stuff 2 days BEFORE asking about optinions and objections!! | 21:48 |
| thedead1440 | fmg asked us a few hours ago!!! | 21:48 |
| thedead1440 | i raised the topic | 21:48 |
| kerio | not really, you asked "any objections" | 21:49 |
| thedead1440 | kerio: i asked for any objections to me doing a response as suggested by qwazix | 21:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WHERE got that topic get made known to council at large? | 21:50 |
| thedead1440 | on #maemo he asked me and sixwheeledbeast^ to raise it at meeting since he won't be able to attend today's meeting | 21:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is it on the agenda for today's meeting? oh wait, where IS the agenda for today's meeting? | 21:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | yep, I was there. | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so you bash me with a URL to a fsckng tmo post while I'm walking and 10 minutes later, while I just get out of my jacket and shoes, you ask about any objections in council to do XY? great! | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | feels estelesian | 21:53 |
| thedead1440 | i didn't bash you till you started labelling things as SPAM! Doc i never waste time bashing as its just that. But i don't accept being run over unfairly too. You want people to communicate properly then do it yourself too | 21:53 |
| thedead1440 | anyway i'm not raising that topic anymore and might as well go get some sleep instead of engaging in silly discussions. | 21:54 |
| thedead1440 | Goodnight all... | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | last wek chem|st. this week you. I'm fed up with that kind of "meeting" | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | <thedead1440> you are over-complicating matters as usual; anyway screw your 1 vote. --- But i don't accept being run over unfairly too. You want people to communicate properly then do it yourself too | 21:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | **funny** | 21:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to read and think about 4 posts, I need at least 10 min, which you never gave me | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and to utter a *official* notion about any such complicated stuff, I need an hour at least to check background and whatnot. And you say I'm overcomplicating stuff and running over you | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HAHA | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and >>anyway screw your 1 vote.<< is as nasty and bold as it gets | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm honestly disappointed about performance of this new council(s) | 22:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | since our valued community visitors and occasioanly log readrs are not responsible or to blame for any mess inside council, here just a bit of actual entertainment and info, though not exactly about anything council related: | 22:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | techstaff succeeded to finally restore the notorious repligard table in midgard, which meant we now are in a sitiazion where most parts of midgard start to work again as supposed | 22:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which resulted so far in a tiny edit on fotter of every maemo.org page, mentioning our sponsor Nemeon for their valued free hosting of our servers | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it should be finally possible to edit arbitary webpages on maemo.org now | 22:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | last night we seen a xen VIF error in wiki VM which required rebooting of complete blade. During this reboot we updated to a bugfixed kernel, so this hopefully is the last time this widespread and common XEN bug is hitting us | 22:32 |
| qwazix | s/Nemeon/IPHH/ ? | 22:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | many thanks to xes for his incredibly professional and sustained work to bugfix xen and keep our xen kernels safe and working | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: indeed | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and probably I forgot to mention it during last meeting: freemangordin fixed our bugs.maemo.org so we could enable it again | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "should council officially answer to XY? please any objections now otherwise I take that as a 'yes'. You had 5 minutes time to make up your mind by reading the texts I linked you to" | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | golden rule: *never* require meeting participants to read any texts during meeting | 23:23 |
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