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| DocScrutinizer05 | morning everybody | 20:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | let's hope anybody of council eventually will drop by | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (in addition to your humble doc) | 20:01 |
| wirr | hi everybody, just wan't to excuse myself for not being able to attend. good luck and by! | 20:02 |
| wirr | bye | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bye wirr | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also Hi warfare! | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare is another sysop volunteer offering help with maemo infra admin. Much appreciated | 20:03 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, can you ask (somebody who could know) if there will be OBS? | 20:04 |
| freemangordon | hi | 20:05 |
| warfare | hi everyone. | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: according to my papers about what got migrated, there's no obs, and never been | 20:05 |
| Pali | so prepared obs is dead? | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? | 20:06 |
| Sc0rpius | the "so-prepared-obs" is dead | 20:07 |
| Sc0rpius | :P | 20:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: give me an URL I shall take care about! If that URL is (.*).maemo.org odds are we can do something about for migration. Otherwise we can just backup - usually | 20:08 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, I will look to #maemo-meeting logs | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but please do that during normal "working hours", not during meeting | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh Hi | 20:09 |
| qwazix | Hi | 20:10 |
| * MentalistTraceur waves | 20:10 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then there were three | 20:10 |
| Pali | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2012-04-23.log.html#t2012-04-23T17:56:38 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2012-05-07.log.html#t2012-05-07T18:03:47 | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: nobody is going to read chanlogs during meeting, sorry | 20:11 |
| Pali | build.obs.maemo.org | 20:11 |
| MentalistTraceur | (Connected over webclient again - need to compile irssi with perl support, else get xchat from repos, but repos are still unusable for me, irssi's configure script says there's no glib found, so webclient it is) | 20:12 |
| MentalistTraceur | (Perl support needed in irssi because without it I can't have it split my overly verbose statements into multiple sent lines when it goes over the IRC char limit) | 20:13 |
| MentalistTraceur | [/bitching] | 20:13 |
| kerio | MentalistTraceur: http://extras-devel.merlin1991.at/extras-devel-light.install | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: (from maemo.orginfrastructureforhildon.pdf) | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we offer an autobuilder environment for Maemo devices (N900 and older tablets) | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we can not offer build services for Harmattan community (N9 devices) | 20:14 |
| MentalistTraceur | kerio, I have an irrational aversion to using repository mirrors. Plus, if I do that, I don't feel sufficiently motivated to regularly whine about the repos being down. | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I like to get OK from council to order Nemein to get the servers | 20:15 |
| ShadowJK | meh | 20:16 |
| MentalistTraceur | DocScrutinizer05: Isn't that Board decision? | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I evaluated disk storage requirements with our backup guys thedead1440 and brkn, with our sysops-in-spe, and with Eero, and it seems 2TB netto should suffice | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: no way, technical aspects are our domain | 20:17 |
| qwazix | DocScrutinizer05, with keeping them in mind i.e. specced-for-maemo, or with selling them i.e. highest resell value? | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | board is involved in anything asset-related | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: sorry? | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't spec requirements for high resell value | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of course the storgae needed got calculated against what we run right now for maemo infra | 20:18 |
| qwazix | it might make sense as we can't possibly afford the colo cost as specified by nemein's quotation | 20:19 |
| qwazix | (Not that their quotation is not sane, it's just out of our reach) | 20:19 |
| MentalistTraceur | Qwazix, my understanding is that yes we are then going to sell these servers, but this is just getting the okay to tell Nemein to go through with the purchase. | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I thought that detail been clear as thin air: we get the servers with all the VMs on it, run it for a month or two (~500EUR/month) and during that time we migrate to $better-hosting | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then we sell the iron | 20:20 |
| qwazix | OK | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even Henry implicitly suggested that | 20:21 |
| MentalistTraceur | Yep. Anyway, I am in agreement. | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | henri | 20:21 |
| MentalistTraceur | So, if we are all in agreement, that makes 3/5, which presumably counts as "council OK'ed it". | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I'll negotiate with Eero on easy chat to go ahead with whatever he suggested, we are fine with it | 20:22 |
| qwazix | ##action item ^^^ | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | same time I should probably send a mail to HiFo about that, since (grrrr!) ivgalvez is again not around | 20:23 |
| qwazix | Do we have an agenda? | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | noone sent any | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: what's with meeting minutes of last 2 meetings? | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I hoped to use those as a todo list for me - sure I could've used chanlogs, but ... | 20:24 |
| qwazix | I know it's trivial but it's almost a boiling subject on tmo so I'd like to discuss a joint course of behaviour regarding tmo restructuring | 20:24 |
| kerio | someone, probably someone appointed by the council, should mail nokia to explain the situation regarding the repo key | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, and btw: prepare for me vanishing dead eventually. I can't sustain this workload | 20:25 |
| MentalistTraceur | DocScrutinizer51: It's more than 2 meetings I've failed to do meeting minutes for now. I keep forgetting and next thing I know it's already the next meeting. | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: you here? | 20:26 |
| qwazix | So re tmo restructuring, I know this should be done when we are not loaded with other things, but before I posted a message telling people to calm down and that | 20:27 |
| qwazix | this will be probably work for the next monts or so | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: tbh I don't give a **** about tmo restructuring right now, sorry for plain speech. I happily leave this on your and chem|st's plate | 20:27 |
| qwazix | I wanted to have your agreement | 20:27 |
| MentalistTraceur | qwazix: sure, we can discuss tmo restructure, either this meeting or later, but I agree we should wait until the rest or the stuff has been sorted. | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st is our tmo ultimate master, not even we can instruct him to do anything | 20:28 |
| qwazix | DocScrutinizer05, I understand it, no need to be sorry, and I don't want to discuss it either | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so convince him, not us | 20:28 |
| qwazix | I just want you to give me an OK to go and post "Calm down people this will be done in due time" | 20:28 |
| kerio | besides, it's better to keep tmo working until the rest isn't properly fixed, so there's at least a way to communicate | 20:28 |
| kerio | *until the rest is | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: go ahead! | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok with me | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yep | 20:29 |
| qwazix | O | 20:29 |
| qwazix | *Ok | 20:29 |
| MentalistTraceur | qwazix: agreed, post that. But don't say so much "this will be done", as much as "we will discuss whether to get it done or not". | 20:29 |
| MentalistTraceur | So it's not construed as a promise/made-decision. | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 20:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for the record: what do the gnomes at tmo request ? ;-D | 20:30 |
| qwazix | Eventually it will need to be done IMHO but let's not go into that now. | 20:30 |
| qwazix | I'll post that it will be discussed and presented to everybody | 20:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | does anybody want tmo go to a pusg-service, or have a porn subforum? | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | push* | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or what is it this time? | 20:32 |
| MentalistTraceur | DocScrutinizer05: Nah, they just want to shift the subforums around and stuff. | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh yeah! super idea | 20:32 |
| MentalistTraceur | Last I checked. | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | discuss that with chem|st, FFS | 20:32 |
| MentalistTraceur | (I'll admit I haven't had time to read through the full thread) | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (not you, MentalistTraceur qwazix) | 20:32 |
| qwazix | I'm not the one continuing this :P | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | again, I'm announcing a prolonged downtime on my side | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | got kinda burnout during last 4 weeks | 20:34 |
| qwazix | Understandable but you got a big thank you for this | 20:35 |
| qwazix | (I hope that makes it a tiny bit easier) | 20:35 |
| MentalistTraceur | Yeah, you've carried a lot of the work-load lately, Joerg. Much appreciated. | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd feel a lot better if somebody would make a list of stuff that needs to be taken care of when I'm offline for a week | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and who will be able and willing to do that | 20:36 |
| qwazix | Ok, do you have any leftovers to start from? | 20:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not me, I'm at 5% of my mental battery | 20:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and 1st coffee doesn't kick in | 20:37 |
| qwazix | (also is there any other chanop? I'll tell him to kick you out of #maemo for exactly one week) | 20:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only x-fade could do that | 20:38 |
| qwazix | bummer | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is going on inside HiFo???? | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | are those guys still alive? | 20:39 |
| MentalistTraceur | I could try to put together a to-do list, but I'm not sure I'm the most in-the-loop councelor for that task. | 20:39 |
| warfare | HiFo == Hildon Foundation? | 20:39 |
| qwazix | Anyway, repos are still down, ML's don't work, tmo mails don't work, tablet-dev is down. Anything else? | 20:39 |
| MentalistTraceur | Speaking of, should we make that an action item? E-mail HiFo and ask for an update since we've not had one for 2 weeks? | 20:39 |
| MentalistTraceur | warfare: yes. | 20:39 |
| * kerio has one thing for the list | 20:39 | |
| warfare | ty | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I got the impression the more I help on stuff moving, the more everybody else feels "oh fine, somebody else is taking care, so they don't need me" | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where TF is Ivan? | 20:41 |
| MentalistTraceur | Probably held up at work again, is my guess. | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that other guy, Niel was his name? | 20:41 |
| MentalistTraceur | Anyway, I'll e-mail HiFo asking for an update. | 20:41 |
| MentalistTraceur | ##action item ^^^ | 20:41 |
| kerio | we need to decide who's going to mail nokia, as per http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/latest.log.html#t2013-01-25T14:39:19 | 20:42 |
| MentalistTraceur | And put together (or at least start on) a to-do list. | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'll continue with Eero on making server purchase start, I'll continue talking to our sysops-in-spe with a little help so they catch up on what's our current situation. I drop most everything else for next week | 20:43 |
| MentalistTraceur | Kerio, is this about the repo key issue? | 20:43 |
| kerio | yep | 20:44 |
| kerio | tl;dr: akuma, the nokia guy, found the key, but it's apparently a somewhat important key for nokia internals, so we need a mail that explains clearly that signing the repo with that key won't add a risk for nokia | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: when will brkn be back? | 20:44 |
| qwazix | kerio, why did Nokia remember this now? Do we know? | 20:45 |
| qwazix | we also need to ask nokia about tablets-dev | 20:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while we talk, *.m.o down again? | 20:46 |
| MentalistTraceur | t.m.o loaded fine for me just before meeting... | 20:46 |
| kerio | i'm up for explaining to you guys the issue if you have any doubts, but i'm not capable of writing in formal english - and besides, it would be a lot better if the mail was sent "officially" | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | kerio: I wonder why "we" should explain that to nokia | 20:47 |
| qwazix | tmo loads, it's maemo.org that it's down | 20:47 |
| kerio | i.e. from council or board | 20:47 |
| kerio | freemangordon: because we want the repos to work, they don't give a fuck | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: tmo is disparate | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | hmm, what about woody? I bet he is capable of writing such a letter | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t.m.o (is not element of) *.m.o | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: could you comment on this? | 20:49 |
| MentalistTraceur | Kerio, sure, if you work with me on it, I can write up the formal english version, but I'm kinda thinking Board should send it instead of council. | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I haven't read your mail yet | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nor nokia's | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nor maeo-ssu chanlog of this afternoon | 20:50 |
| MentalistTraceur | Though if board doesn't respond to the e-mail asking for updates within a few days, we can send it as council. | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: so please step in and tell us what's state of matters | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | before some nonsense gets decided here | 20:51 |
| qwazix | MentalistTraceur, let's send it as council anyway | 20:51 |
| qwazix | (if we're going to send anything) | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: WTF got board to do with keys? | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless they own them? | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for the record: HiFo is about keeping assets | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and finding new ones | 20:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | up til now I never felt any happy with any technical topic board took care of | 20:53 |
| MentalistTraceur | DocScrutinizer05: Board is the official entity Nokia sees as the legal thing they can negotiate with, no? So I figured they mightk be | 20:54 |
| MentalistTraceur | better suited for sending explanation to Nokia about keys. | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and in the end they made up their mind and e.g. "delegated" migration a toto to council | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, again: HiFo is about *assets* and *money* | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not about technical stuff | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *council* is community's representative | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *we* are | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not hiFo | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who from HiFo is in #maemo-ssu? | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do you think they already even *noticed* the key issue? | 20:56 |
| MentalistTraceur | "Formal explanation email to Nokia" is not technical (though it's about a technical topic), nor assets (though keys are arguably 'assets') , nor money. It's politics. | 20:56 |
| MentalistTraceur | But you and qwazix was it to be sent from council, so sure, we'll send the email from council. Fine by me. | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in my book HiFo's politics been not exactly fruitful so far either | 20:57 |
| MentalistTraceur | Especially since it falls under the migration issue and they did indeed deligate that to us. | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | under plain day's sunlight, migration always been the domain of council, for all technical aspects. It's HiFo to own possession of the domain etc | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | using signature keys is a technical aspect. POSSESSION of those keys is an asset aspect belonging into HiFo board's domain | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | forwarding community knowledge and notions to Nokia been council's domain since very beginning, the genuine purpose of council | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I put it on my plate as well | 21:02 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05, the one who's burned out and needs a vacation ;) | 21:02 |
| warfare | .. and already has a full plate. | 21:03 |
| MentalistTraceur | Alright, so, we have the following action items: Qwazix: tell TMO restructuring thread that we'll deal with the matter when the rest of the migration has been sorted. Me: Email HiFo board asking for update. Colloborate with kerio to compose e-mail about keys to send Nokia. | 21:03 |
| kerio | we need a formal *technical* explanation email to nokia | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ###actionpoint: prepare (or care for preparation of) letter to Nokia about signature keys | 21:03 |
| MentalistTraceur | What else we missing? | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ###actionpoint: Joerg | 21:03 |
| MentalistTraceur | Doc, I already said earlier I'd do kit. | 21:03 |
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| MentalistTraceur | s/kit/it/. | 21:03 |
| MentalistTraceur | Oh, right, I also said I'd put together a proper what's-still-left-to-do list. | 21:05 |
| qwazix | We're still stuck with the alternative money routes because HiFo only has an account in the US and there is fear of immense fees | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: i'm not sure you are up to date re thread regarding keys between pali and nokia | 21:05 |
| qwazix | But on the other hand most income is in eu, most expenses are in eu we've got to have an EU account, or just stop worrying about the fees and love them | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HiFo *has* a proper account here in EU already, just they are too shy to use cosimo's "private" account, and they are incapable/lazy to establish a "Vereinskonto" | 21:06 |
| kerio | we don't have enough funds to love the fees, i think | 21:06 |
| MentalistTraceur | True. I'm not. Kerio said he could explain the technical issue to us, I'd jsut need to put it into formal english. I also presume I could get pali/someone-else to help fill me in. | 21:07 |
| qwazix | kerio, yeah but we | 21:07 |
| qwazix | 're gonna have 0 funds if we continue not having a bank account | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: please do | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'll recheck the mail thread if everything got copied to council | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: do you get council mail now? | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I / Ferenc sorted your issue | 21:09 |
| qwazix | DocScrutinizer05, I still get no mail so please cc it to me to if possible | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np | 21:09 |
| MentalistTraceur | I'll send it out to the council anyway once I've written it before sending it to Nokia so that you all can make sure I didn't fuck up the explanation. | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you both should already be on council mail alias since yesterday | 21:09 |
| MentalistTraceur | DocScrutinizer05: Nope, no council ml mail coming last I checked. | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'll go thru all my mail and forward you all council threads | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't expect any nice formatting | 21:10 |
| qwazix | no problem with that | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pester ferenc about your council mail please | 21:11 |
| MentalistTraceur | (But I haven't had chance to check mail on that account since what would probably be early morning your time) | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'll forward that mail of ferenc to you both this minute | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ferenc's mail about your mail alias and thread about sign keys sent | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mail to community-ml bounced :-/ | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so lemme resent it here: We need info about who's maintaining what URGENTLY! | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st = tmo | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | andre_ = bugs | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ?? = * | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who got access to wiki? | 21:17 |
| MentalistTraceur | (Signed into gmail just now, confirmed that I got mail from you directly, but nothing from council ml) | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who to maemo.org frontpage and stuff? | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who to repos? | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to autobuilder? | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fuck gmail | 21:18 |
| MentalistTraceur | Don't know @ maintainers of any of those. | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gmail accounts bounce mail from *.m.o because of... they think it's funny | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please kick off an effort to gather info who are our maintainers | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I tried but failed with ML bouncing my mail | 21:19 |
| MentalistTraceur | Never had a problem with gmail bouncing mailing list mail until the migration. | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceurthere are DNS issues we *might* get sorted *eventually* | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fact is: gmail bouncing our mails | 21:20 |
| MentalistTraceur | I'm pretty sure gmail ain't the problem. | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or copying to dev/null, whatever | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it is!!!! | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please talk to chem|st about the deatails | 21:21 |
| MentalistTraceur | Anyway, start compiling list of who is maintaining what. k. | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I claimed from beginning there are issues maybe with those SNP or whatsthename DNs TEXT entries | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and there *are* | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | evidently | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with gmail | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there been even more problems until our rDNS been ok, and others been with ML not having a recipient under same name/account like senser. Those got sorted | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | still gmail acts up | 21:24 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 feels a terrible headache just around the corner | 21:25 | |
| kerio | aspirin! | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pff | 21:25 |
| kerio | beer? | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | propofol | 21:26 |
| kerio | we need someone who really groks emails | 21:26 |
| kerio | at least to diagnose the problem | 21:26 |
| MentalistTraceur | All I can say is, before the migration, gmaial recieved all mailing list mails for me fine. If you're saying there's some other issue that's appeared since thmigration, then I can't/won't argue. | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: the problem *got diagnosed* ad nauseum | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: our DNs records changed! | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so technicall everything changed, from gmail's POV | 21:27 |
| MentalistTraceur | Gotcha. So now gmail is having a fit over same address'ed emails coming from different servers or someshit. Okay. Makes sense. | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, and on a general note: i'd appreciate when you qwazix and MentalistTraceur would drop by at IRC at least maybe once a day (and those other peers of us maybe at least once a week ;-P) so we don't discuss stuff during one hour at Friday evening and the week passes by with me working 16h per day without any feedback/help from anybody | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you know email is a PITA for me | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eats time like mad for silly low info thruput, when it's about handshaking | 21:32 |
| qwazix | ok you got that. I was absent Monday-Tuesday but I think I did pop up the other days though | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no bashing intended | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I just feel rather ... lonely | 21:32 |
| MentalistTraceur | I will make an effort to be on more frequently, though being in USA I think our hours are completely different and there won't be much overlap. | 21:33 |
| kerio | hahahaha | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and felt there happened nothing since last Friday which wasn't triggered or supervised by me | 21:33 |
| kerio | have you seen DocScrutinizer05's uptime on IRC? | 21:33 |
| kerio | his effective timezone is probably somewhere in the middle of the atlantic ocean | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: it's just I have 127h days | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but this *must* change now | 21:34 |
| MentalistTraceur | Alright, so, I have to get offline soon: anyone have anything else for the meeting? | 21:35 |
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| kerio | we also have to decide what to ask nokia, regarding their repo | 21:35 |
| warfare | I can introduce myself, if wanted ;) | 21:35 |
| kerio | and also figure out what happened to tablets-dev. | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: sure, please go ahead! | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-D | 21:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | holla | 21:36 |
| warfare | Ha ;) | 21:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: introduce yourself too :) | 21:39 |
| warfare | Name is Falk, I'm (nearly) 34 years old and live near Hamburg, Germany. I've been doing sysadmin work for some larger websites, did a lot of networking stuff over the last few years and am now the team lead for the datacenter network team at xing.com. I started with maemo a few years ago with a N810 and got myself an n900 a few days ago. | 21:39 |
| warfare | Oh, and I'm using Unix/Linux for about 18 years now. | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which already sold me to him ;-D | 21:40 |
| kerio | which one? | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all | 21:40 |
| kerio | heh | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plus his kind way | 21:40 |
| warfare | Pictures: http://www.xing.com/profile/falk_stern | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare joined out team of sysops-in-spe just yesterday (iirc - though today on my 127h day scale) | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/out/our/ | 21:42 |
| khm | that's a long day. | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I think he's a great benefit to maemo | 21:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | " | 21:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | Netzwerkadministrator" | 21:43 |
| kerio | i think it means "network administrator", but i'm not sure | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | btw meetiing is over i see | 21:44 |
| kerio | german is weird | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | kerio: preatty sure it is | 21:44 |
| kerio | ZogG_laptop: unless you've got a point to discuss | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | just funny word | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | kerio: neh | 21:44 |
| warfare | kerio: it does. :) | 21:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, guys, I'm almost out now | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MentalistTraceur: any more point on agenda? | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: ? | 21:46 |
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| qwazix | no, not by me | 21:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems MT again got connectivity issues | 21:47 |
| kerio | he was using the web interface | 21:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | qwazix: sup man | 21:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | long time no see | 21:47 |
| qwazix | ZogG_laptop, too busy latest weeks | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so welcome warfare, much appreciated new member of our sysops-in-spe team, and bye everybody | 21:48 |
| qwazix | o/ | 21:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | qwazix: know that feeling, barely on irc myself :( | 21:48 |
| qwazix | ZogG_laptop, and busy @day work coincided with maemo migration | 21:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: bye | 21:48 |
| khm | what is spe? | 21:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | interesting if DocScrutinizer05 still ignores me | 21:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | khm: roughly same like "designated" | 21:49 |
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| khm | ah | 21:50 |
| mentalisttraceur | Lost conenction, didn't notice for a little while. | 21:50 |
| mentalisttraceur | Last I got: <DocScrutinizer05> and I think he's a great benefit to maemo | 21:51 |
| mentalisttraceur | Then I said "Well: Welcome Falk, good to meet you.", but I don't think that went through. | 21:51 |
| mentalisttraceur | Alright, so, I have nothing else for meeting. | 21:53 |
| warfare | Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. | 21:53 |
| mentalisttraceur | If that's all on everyone else's agenda, I suppose we can disperse. | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: thanks for stepping up to help with your experience and expertise | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mentalisttraceur: ack | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mentalisttraceur: and please prepare a post-it note "meeting minutes" | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 21:54 |
| mentalisttraceur | Yep yep. Will do. | 21:55 |
| * mentalisttraceur waves | 21:56 | |
| mentalisttraceur | Alright, I'm off. Good day/evening/morning/whatever, everyone. | 21:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ###meeting-closed | 21:56 |
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