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| DocScrutinizer05 | yoh | 19:58 |
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| SD69 | hello | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi SD69 | 19:58 |
| vi__ | excuse me, I'l just sit up the back and listen. | 19:58 |
| kerio | vi__: booooo | 19:59 |
| vi__ | If I have any relevent points to make, am I allowed to speak during the meeting or is it council only? | 19:59 |
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| SD69 | anyone can speak | 19:59 |
| ivgalvez | hi | 20:00 |
| qwazix | hi | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | excuse me if I'm a bit dull today, caught a cold | 20:02 |
| kerio | yeah, i can hear it in your voice | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 20:03 |
| kerio | oh no wait, this is the internet | 20:03 |
| kerio | on the internet, no one can hear you sniffle | 20:04 |
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| SD69 | does anyone know if woody will be on soon? | 20:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | let me post a "thank you Woody14619a" for sovereign leading of new council election | 20:05 |
| ivgalvez | we should wait for him | 20:06 |
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| ivgalvez | Ok it's 15 munutes late, maybe we should start now | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | i'm missing nieldk and mentalist-traceur | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of the new team | 20:15 |
| ivgalvez | OK, let's go | 20:17 |
| ivgalvez | #Start Maemo Council meeting | 20:17 |
| ivgalvez | Agenda: | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | here, aka joerg_rw | 20:17 |
| ivgalvez | 1. New Council | 20:18 |
| ivgalvez | 2. Status update on migration from Board | 20:18 |
| Woody14619a | sorry for my tardiness... Time-shift caught me. ;) (-4 vs -5) | 20:19 |
| ivgalvez | 3. Other topics | 20:19 |
| ivgalvez | great | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi Woody14619a :-D | 20:19 |
| Woody14619a | Hello all. :) Thank you for starting the meeting Ivan. :) | 20:19 |
| ivgalvez | Woody14619a did you have any other agenda prepared? | 20:19 |
| Woody14619a | I would like to add an item for transfer of things... (infor the new council may need) | 20:20 |
| ivgalvez | go ahead, you are still chairman ;) | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, unlike ivgalvez we newcomers could use such introduction | 20:21 |
| Woody14619a | sorry, manager had an emergency. ;) | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a pity 2 of new team missing | 20:21 |
| Woody14619a | OK, so.. now that the fire is put out. :) | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui new council members attending: Joerg_rw, qwazix, ivgalvez | 20:22 |
| Woody14619a | So, Topic 1: New Council. | 20:22 |
| Woody14619a | Welcome new Council members! :) | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks | 20:22 |
| ivgalvez | Thanks to you for making it possible | 20:22 |
| qwazix | thanks | 20:23 |
| Woody14619a | Well, it was technically something somewhat required... ;) | 20:23 |
| Woody14619a | Something to keep in mind when the new Council starts it's rounds of "not it" for assigning Chair. ;) | 20:23 |
| Woody14619a | Effective this meeting, you are all now happy Council people. | 20:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ *cough* | 20:24 |
| Woody14619a | There are a list of things we need to have you all do, but that will happen after the meeting. :) | 20:24 |
| Woody14619a | (Prefered e-mails to put you on the Council list, etc) | 20:25 |
| Woody14619a | At this point though, I think we can move to topic 2? :) | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I passed another communication channel details to eachof you for such stuff | 20:25 |
| Woody14619a | Topic 2: Staus update from the Board? | 20:25 |
| ivgalvez | We should insert a new Topic 1.5: Election of chairman | 20:26 |
| qwazix | This should probably be done with all councillors present | 20:26 |
| Woody14619a | We could? I would think that's more of a topic for the new Council. :) | 20:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 20:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on both | 20:27 |
| Woody14619a | We did that somewhat privately and announced it later... | 20:27 |
| ivgalvez | We need a chairman for today's meeting to do the minutes | 20:27 |
| Woody14619a | I see no need for them to do otherwise, so long as it happens relatively soon. | 20:27 |
| ivgalvez | Would you mind Woody14619a? | 20:27 |
| Woody14619a | The list of things you need to do include selecting a Chair, and having said person post a blog entry with a welcome. | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems for today Woody14619a is still leader of this lil chat, and chairman in duty until proper handover | 20:28 |
| ivgalvez | qwazix, DocScrutinizer05, do you both agree to discuss chairman election by email to involve also Mentalist Traceur and nieldk? | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sure | 20:29 |
| Woody14619a | I'll be happy to continue as Chair through the end of the meeting. | 20:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | much appreciated | 20:29 |
| Woody14619a | So, with that, Topic 2? Update from the Board on status and what not. | 20:29 |
| Woody14619a | Ivan, I think you're best suited for that. :) | 20:29 |
| ivgalvez | OK then, I'll summarise it | 20:30 |
| qwazix | yes here too | 20:30 |
| ivgalvez | We are currently in conversations with both Nokia and Nemein about the migration to self administrated infrastructure governed by the Foundation | 20:30 |
| ivgalvez | Unfortunately it's been slow for some time | 20:31 |
| ivgalvez | but it seems that communication is improving | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who's slowing it down? | 20:31 |
| ivgalvez | For some time we didn't get answers from both Nemein and Nokia | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | frankly! | 20:31 |
| ivgalvez | now we are talk with Nemein | 20:31 |
| ivgalvez | and need to resume conversations with Nokia | 20:32 |
| ivgalvez | that's a bit difficult as people dissapears from there quite fast | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | any news about domain transferal? | 20:32 |
| ivgalvez | Not, yet. It's in my top priority list | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | access to servers? | 20:33 |
| ivgalvez | the current hosting is still at Logica and Nemein only provides the software-level maintenance | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to do a bulk copy | 20:33 |
| qwazix | Do you feel there are people responsible in nokia or is it there a corporate maze of responsibilities? | 20:33 |
| SD69 | I am supposed to receive the document to transfer the domain name any day now... | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, that's great news | 20:33 |
| ivgalvez | SD69, great | 20:33 |
| qwazix | indeed | 20:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | modulo it actually happening | 20:34 |
| ivgalvez | Nokia has expressed their will to donate three servers in the form of Nemein (or other vendor or the Foundation) purchasing the servers and then Nokia reimbursing the purchasing party | 20:34 |
| ivgalvez | I hope they will do it | 20:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | again great news | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia has kind moments | 20:35 |
| ivgalvez | Nokia has also offered to handle some of our migration costs | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | duh! | 20:35 |
| ivgalvez | but again, all of this still needs to happen! | 20:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 20:35 |
| qwazix | <paranoid mode> maemo is a nokia trademark. What if they transfer the domain and then something changes and try to get it back by legal means due to having the trademark? </paranoid mode> | 20:35 |
| ivgalvez | dunno, honestly | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, the trademark is a very special topic I guess | 20:36 |
| qwazix | Do we have a kind of legal way to prove it has been handed over for a period of time or something? | 20:36 |
| SD69 | qwazix: we will have a disclaimer on the website or redirect to a different domain | 20:36 |
| Woody14619a | Great job on getting all that moving to everyone on the Board. I know we did some of this as Council but were hitting walls for legal reasons. | 20:36 |
| ivgalvez | indeed, all this work was started by former Council | 20:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no fingerpointing please! ;-) | 20:37 |
| SD69 | qwazix: and hopefully the domain name transfer will indicate that disclaimer is acceptable to Nokia | 20:37 |
| Woody14619a | qwazix: I also assume that part of the hand off will include the Foundation having to do some paperwork in any case, including agreements about resitributables if we wind up inheriting that as well. | 20:37 |
| ivgalvez | Now, we are discussing about the services that are hosted at Logica | 20:37 |
| ivgalvez | I'd like to start the formation of an administrators group | 20:38 |
| qwazix | SD69, Woody14619a, sounds reasonable. It wouldn't harm to ask for a "permission to use" legal document however. | 20:38 |
| ivgalvez | Woody14619a, lma, merlin1991, freemangordon and pali have already volunteered to take some tasks | 20:39 |
| Woody14619a | agreed. :) But I think that will be one of the easier bits to manage. | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ivgalvez: picking good admins is a difficult task | 20:39 |
| SD69 | since it's taking so long to send the legal document, I hope they are addressing these issues in it | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ivgalvez: since, you know, admins are always a bit special | 20:39 |
| ivgalvez | My suggestion is start a thread (publishing in Council's blog, TMO and ml as usual) | 20:40 |
| qwazix | ok, let's hope for the best. | 20:40 |
| ivgalvez | calling for volunteers | 20:40 |
| ivgalvez | as once we start migrating services, dependig on the final hosting | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | volunteers for admin usually doesn't work well. Too many wanna-be admins, too few experienced ones | 20:40 |
| ivgalvez | we might need to do a lot of work by ourselves | 20:41 |
| qwazix | I'd trust better one that doesn't want to be admin... | 20:41 |
| ivgalvez | DocScrutinizer05, agree | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | better approach: pick "volunteers" ;-D | 20:41 |
| ivgalvez | that's why we have first talked only with trusted members | 20:41 |
| ivgalvez | Woody14619a, lma, merlin1991, freemangordon and pali | 20:42 |
| ivgalvez | at this moment | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd trust each of them, regarding character. No idea about competence | 20:42 |
| ivgalvez | there would be lack of knowledge in certain areas but at least we need to get some people to start with | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | agree on that | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991 would be the most natural choice | 20:43 |
| ivgalvez | once that specific needs arrive, we can the look for some spetialised guys | 20:44 |
| Woody14619a | To be fair, my skills are rusty, but the scope of my offer is mainly around midguard/ SVN/ voting machine, etc. | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you could form an admin team, complementing each other's skills? | 20:44 |
| Woody14619a | I think so far the list of people invovled have the skillsets we need to keep things going, and handle transistion and minor repairs. | 20:45 |
| ivgalvez | that would be the best approach | 20:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm willing to help on a 15min comment-on-it basis | 20:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and an occasional sudo ps | 20:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IANAA | 20:46 |
| ivgalvez | transition won't be easy so even if Board negotiates with Nemein, Nokia, etc, it would be good to have Council dealing with the technical side of the issue | 20:46 |
| qwazix | I can probably help with not-too-advanced php matters too | 20:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | great | 20:46 |
| ivgalvez | So I will send the technical details we are discussing with Nemein to Council | 20:47 |
| Woody14619a | So... Topic 3: Remaining business from this Council going to the next? (Or does the Board have more to discuss?) | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ivgalvez: I don't think we could negotiate details regarding council's duties and jobs right now, with 2 of us new ones missing | 20:48 |
| ivgalvez | DocScrutinizer05, for the time being I will only share the technical information that Board has | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw aiui appointing admins is a pretty clear board domain | 20:49 |
| qwazix | It's good if we had an idea of what is to be done though, | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | council can suggest admins | 20:49 |
| ivgalvez | DocScrutinizer05, yes but I think Council could work on it and propose a list of admins | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | board holding the root password | 20:50 |
| ivgalvez | appointments should be made during oficial VoIP meeting of Board | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bbiab | 20:50 |
| ivgalvez | I think you can now go to Topic 3 Woody14619a | 20:51 |
| Woody14619a | So... Topic 3: Remaining business from this Council going to next Council | 20:51 |
| Woody14619a | The only outstanding Council issue that comes to my mind immediately is any required follow up on CC awards. Currently I think there are still a couple of outstanding devices to be delivered? | 20:51 |
| qwazix | It seems that this is true, as is that the bounty share hasn't been awarded. | 20:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619a: you informed the other 2 newbies about the Friday eve IRC meeting? | 20:52 |
| ivgalvez | nieldk is no newbie | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah yep | 20:53 |
| Woody14619a | Kojacker hasn't updated the wiki page lately, but the TMO thread has a few more than the wiki page... I think something like 21 are confirmed delivered. | 20:53 |
| Woody14619a | DocScrutinizer05: I did not think to do that actually. :( I figured they were following along and would be here... :) | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | If I had, I had asked you earlier | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we'll pick them up eventually ;-D | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I gather you got their email addr anyway | 20:55 |
| Woody14619a | As noted though Neil is not new. ;) Though he may be thrown by the time shift, as I was (so he may show up in a f ew minutes. ;) | 20:55 |
| qwazix | Woody14619a, I can keep an eye on the competition awards as I've been following it closely, who do I ping in case of a problem in customs or missing device? | 20:56 |
| Woody14619a | We'll e-mail that info to the Council list, along with an intro of the new members to the Nokia rep | 20:56 |
| qwazix | ok | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-07 19:40:59] <Woody14619a> I'm hopeful that before then we'll have you folks all added on to the council e-mail list. There are a series of hoops to hop through. You need to add yourself to a garage so you have proper midguard privs, and a few other things. | 20:57 |
| Woody14619a | Unlike Quim, the current rep(s) prefer to not have their info broadcast.... Understandably. | 20:57 |
| Woody14619a | Yes, that was the hope, but then my job exploded. (which is why I'm pausing on occasion here as well.... still exploding...) | 20:57 |
| ivgalvez | Woody14619a, I'm not sure if Nokia contact should now remain for Board | 20:58 |
| ivgalvez | as they are fading away | 20:58 |
| Woody14619a | I'm pretty sure on the CC front that shares were being held until all devices were delivered, to make sure if there were complications (delivery/customs, etc) | 20:58 |
| qwazix | Yes that is correct | 20:59 |
| Woody14619a | Perhapse? That's for the Board and new Council to hash out? I don't seen a huge reason to hold it from Council though... Not my call to make. ;) | 20:59 |
| Woody14619a | Also, adding people to the mailing list and what not requires work on X-Fade's part. And he was travling this week. So... :) | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who will be our "judge" or "referee" in cases where council as well as board wnat or don't want to deal with any issue? | 21:01 |
| Woody14619a | I'm kind of confused on that question? | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just in case council and board can't agree if a particular topic is either one's domain | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we should think of a procedure to resolve such cases | 21:03 |
| ivgalvez | DocScrutinizer05 we'll fight to death ;) | 21:03 |
| ivgalvez | kidding | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe | 21:03 |
| SD69 | DocScrutinizer05: Board decides | 21:03 |
| Woody14619a | Coucil is pretty much the caller when it comes to dealing with community issues, IMHO. They decide if/when things are elevated or if they need to be, to the Board. | 21:03 |
| Woody14619a | But on technical matters, yes, Board is the end authority. | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SD69: you wouldn't expect but I'm fine with that, as long as all other involved parties are | 21:03 |
| Woody14619a | I susspect that 99.9% of the time though, Board will not intervene in community affairs (much the way Nokia has done) | 21:04 |
| qwazix | Seems reasonable to me too | 21:04 |
| ivgalvez | OK | 21:04 |
| Woody14619a | So, topic 4: Misc? | 21:04 |
| Woody14619a | Anything we missed? (Outside of setting things up for the new members...) | 21:05 |
| qwazix | What is the correct handling procedure of technical problems? | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | TBD | 21:05 |
| ivgalvez | right now, we directly contact with X-Fade | 21:05 |
| qwazix | community->council->board->admins? | 21:06 |
| Woody14619a | I think the simplest way to start things is to get everyone on the Council e-mail alias. Once that's done the rest can be discussed there. | 21:06 |
| Woody14619a | I would think that is correct qwazix, but in the end, that's something you'll be figuring out. :) | 21:06 |
| qwazix | 4 steps are too much imho | 21:06 |
| ivgalvez | we need to define our own procedure | 21:06 |
| qwazix | maybe board should be left out of this if it doesnt involve financials | 21:06 |
| ivgalvez | once we have a group of administrators | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | TBD = to be defined | 21:07 |
| Woody14619a | I think more often than not, it will go community->admins, unless there's something and admins have an issue with, or need clearance for... | 21:07 |
| ivgalvez | exactly | 21:07 |
| Woody14619a | But admins will be answerable to the Board. | 21:07 |
| ivgalvez | admins will be in touch with community and will know faster than anyone which problems are | 21:07 |
| qwazix | I don't think that $randomcommunitymember bugging admins is correct either... | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly suggest to *not* pester adminbs with direct community inquiries | 21:08 |
| SD69 | we're (outgoing maemo council) are not the ones to be answering these questions; perhaps you should ask Board | 21:08 |
| qwazix | ^^ Yes, that | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a *real* admin will just answer 'GTFO' | 21:08 |
| Woody14619a | I think most things are reasonable. | 21:08 |
| ivgalvez | admins could define it's own mechanism for communication | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a not so real admin will be lured into doing things he's not supposed to do | 21:09 |
| qwazix | So this brings us to the next question. What is the official communication channel between council and board? | 21:09 |
| ivgalvez | whatever is more useful for them | 21:09 |
| Woody14619a | For example, if something is busted, and community notices, someone mailing a known admin is not out of line. | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and generally it adds to the workload of admins | 21:09 |
| ivgalvez | qwazix, I can do such thing as I'm in both Council and Board | 21:10 |
| Woody14619a | Just as you would ping a moderator here if something on TMO was going insane. You're not required to go through Reggie for every request. | 21:10 |
| SD69 | I think from the Board's open letter, they will expect council to address most technical issues | 21:10 |
| qwazix | ivgalvez, ok | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619a: all my previous experience showed this works only for already established relations between the caller and the admin | 21:10 |
| Woody14619a | Which I think will happen here as well... | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 21:11 |
| Woody14619a | The official path will be through Council for the community. | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so let's agree to not prematurely publish email addr of any admin | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as a common denominator for now | 21:11 |
| qwazix | ^^+1 | 21:12 |
| Woody14619a | But knowing person X works on repos, if repos have and issue, and you see them... ;) | 21:12 |
| Woody14619a | Agreed. | 21:12 |
| Woody14619a | But some will be known already, just from their own status/works. | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 21:12 |
| qwazix | It's not a secret, just not encourage direct communication. It'll lead to spam. | 21:12 |
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| Woody14619a | Exactly. | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "admin. fsck you. tmo is slow! :-(" | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I've seen admins quiting their job due to that | 21:13 |
| qwazix | I just know what you mean. | 21:13 |
| Woody14619a | And again... I susspect if Council has an issue, unless it's something major, I don't see Board needing to approve every little thing. If it uses money or changes soemthing large or controvercial, maybe. But most tech details will fall to Council. | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I agree 100% | 21:14 |
| Woody14619a | So. :) Now that we have that all cleared up. :) | 21:14 |
| qwazix | so that is community->council->admins[->board if any financial or other serious decision required] | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 21:15 |
| ivgalvez | sounds about right | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm announcing a 50% cpu time reduction assigned to this very task here, in ~30min max | 21:16 |
| Woody14619a | Anything else in the misc portion? | 21:16 |
| Woody14619a | If not, we can close the meeting. But new members, stick around. :) | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | current defects on larger maemo infra | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ivgalvez already knows about it | 21:17 |
| Woody14619a | I need to get your info to put you on the e-mail list and what not. | 21:17 |
| ivgalvez | that's something we have discussed a lot | 21:17 |
| ivgalvez | but up to now we haven't had the chance to fix anything | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I meant the very recent bugs | 21:17 |
| Woody14619a | Yes... There's a lot for the new admins to do once they get their assignments. ;) | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wiki edit broken | 21:18 |
| SD69 | best wishes to new council :-) | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | o yes, X-Fade knows about it | 21:18 |
| Woody14619a | As for some of the outages, some of that has been fixed. | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | but he was travelling this week | 21:18 |
| SD69 | have fun guys | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | it's being fixed ATM | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | thanks SD69 | 21:18 |
| Woody14619a | Thanks for everything SD69. :) | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SD69: thanks | 21:18 |
| qwazix | thanks oldtimer :) | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | bye | 21:18 |
| Woody14619a | It's been a pleasure working with you! :) | 21:18 |
| SD69 | bye | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 21:19 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 waves | 21:19 | |
| Woody14619a | (Not that we're all moving away or anything... ;) | 21:19 |
| qwazix | bye | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, I hope so | 21:19 |
| ivgalvez | yep, he's still secretary and legal counsel for Board | 21:19 |
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| ivgalvez | which I must say is quite important | 21:20 |
| Woody14619a | I will plan on attending here when possible, though I probably won't be tying as much. ;) | 21:20 |
| ivgalvez | hehe | 21:20 |
| Woody14619a | typing that is. | 21:20 |
| ivgalvez | I hopw to see you in admins team Woody14619a | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Woody14619a: hey, we still need you for a short while :-D | 21:20 |
| Woody14619a | So, Docscrutinizer05 and qwazix (and MT when he reads the logs) I need an e-mail from you to put on the Council e-mail list. Probably best to PM me that, here or on TMO. | 21:21 |
| Woody14619a | I hope to be there as well Ivan. :) | 21:21 |
| Woody14619a | ivgalvez: Also... FYI, I'm planning a trip to Spain this summer. | 21:22 |
| ivgalvez | great, maybe we can have a beer or two | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's this other channel I made for such stuff | 21:22 |
| Woody14619a | ivgalvez: So, we can chat later, but if you're near by... exactly what I was going to suggest. ;) | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | less overhead than mail | 21:22 |
| Woody14619a | K. Well, If nothing else here. :) | 21:24 |
| Woody14619a | #end Maemo Community Council meeting | 21:25 |
| Woody14619a | Thanks all. :) | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks everybody, and particularly former council, current board, and a special thank you to Woody14619a | 21:25 |
| ivgalvez | thank you all | 21:25 |
| ivgalvez | see you | 21:25 |
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| vi___ | woody is going to spain? | 21:30 |
| vi___ | maemo world party at ivgalez house? | 21:31 |
| kerio | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WccfbPQNMbg | 21:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vi___: a pretty brilliant idea :-) | 21:52 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: we should do a cssu party one day :D | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that too | 21:53 |
| * Woody14619a has been to Spain twice already... | 21:53 | |
| Woody14619a | .oO(And London, and Germany, and France, and...) | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there been times when I been @ spain twice a year | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what I meant to say, I'd love to go there to join a maemo world party | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in Tarifa it's nice weather even in December/January | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least compared to what I suffer here | 21:55 |
| Woody14619a | Is there a date on this party? :) | 21:57 |
| qwazix | Do you have to show your N900 to enter? | 21:58 |
| merlin1991 | do you get free stuff for each n900 you present to the bouncer? | 22:01 |
| Woody14619a | Woot! Double swag! | 22:05 |
| Woody14619a | FWIW: I often travel through Europe in July/August time frame. So, got a while before that. :P | 22:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anybody knows if mentalist traceur has a irc nick/account? | 23:08 |
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