IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Friday, 2012-10-19

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ivgalvezhi there21:05
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SD69hello21:06
ivgalvezWoody14619b are you there?21:08
SD69ivgalvez: I'm here21:09
ivgalvezwe have already received Niel's email with Board emailo alias21:10
ivgalvezofficial results already available so we need to publish them on Council's blog21:11
Woody14619bsorry... Just got sat down.21:11
Woody14619bWorking on it now.21:11
Woody14619bHaven't had time yet to read the other e-mails from the ML, but noted that the web page is up with results.21:12
ivgalvezOk, so will you publish it?21:12
Woody14619bYup... during or shortly after the meeting. :)21:13
Woody14619bSo, Council meeting?21:13
ivgalvezyep21:13
Woody14619b# start Maemo Council Meeting21:13
Woody14619bAgenda Items:21:13
Woody14619b1> Board elections21:14
Woody14619b2> Council elections21:14
Woody14619b3> misc?  (Do we have other topics)21:14
Woody14619bOh..21:14
ivgalvezgo ahead21:14
Woody14619b3> CC status21:14
Woody14619b4> Misc21:14
Woody14619bTopic 1: Board elections21:14
Woody14619bBoard elections are compeleted.  Final winners are Texrat, Tim S. and Ivan. :)21:15
Woody14619bBoard incorporators need to meet to seat the Directors, and the Directors need to then being the process of ramping up the Foundation.21:16
ivgalvezthanks to all involved and specially to Woody14619b for managing it21:16
ivgalvezthere is already a mail address board@maemo.org up and running21:16
Woody14619bAs a side note:  Bylaws discussion is still on going, but hopes are that all Directors are reviewing the current draft.21:16
Woody14619bThanks to X-Fade for all his assistance with the elections, and for setting up the new ML alias.21:17
Woody14619bTopic 2: Council elections21:17
ivgalvezWoody14619b you've done a great work with Bylaws recently, will you keep tracking of it until final approval by Board?21:17
Woody14619bCouncil election nominations are re-opened until the 28th.21:18
Woody14619bIvGalvez: I would be happy to continue revision tracking of the bylaws.21:18
SD69hi21:19
Woody14619bCouncil nominations so far are back up to 4, so there will be an election there.21:19
Woody14619bHello SD69. :)21:19
SD69back to the Board mailing list21:19
Woody14619bK, rewind. :)21:20
SD69we'll need to set something separate up for when we start getting confidential info from Jolla21:20
Woody14619bMy understanding is that this is temporary.  And yes, we should use separate e-mail for confidential info.21:21
Woody14619bIn the long run, if/when the Foundation takes control of the maemo.org domain, then this could become the default though, yes?21:21
SD69we got some interesting comments from jolla today21:22
Woody14619bAs that would then be run and maintained by the Foundation, or at least companies in contract with the Foundation.21:22
Woody14619bReally? :( Did I miss the meeting?21:23
SD69I can't say on a public channel, but maemo.org may be up past 12/3121:23
ivgalvezwe will summarise by mail21:23
ivgalvezbut things are looking good21:24
ivgalvezlet's continue with Topic 221:24
SD69good I hope21:24
Woody14619bThat's great! :)21:24
Woody14619bGah... it was entered as 5pm local time... my bad.21:24
SD69there may be a reason to have both maemo.org and a second website21:24
Woody14619bWell great!  I'm glad there is potential good news there. :)21:25
Woody14619bWell, we have a second domain name, so perhapse the second can work on that...21:26
Woody14619bAll for the new Board to decide. :)21:26
Woody14619bK, so Council elections are moving... 4 candidates, so we'll likely be having and election there.21:26
Woody14619bNominations are open until the 28th.21:26
Woody14619bTopic 3: (Coding Competition)21:27
Woody14619bIt appears kojacker is getting all the info together, including the info for the "spare" donate back from the CA awards.21:27
ivgalvezis there  a winner for that finally?21:28
Woody14619bI am hopefull we will have that soon and can resole that before this Council term ends, so the next Council doesn't have to worry about it.21:28
Woody14619bShould we ask them to start giving us info on the ones that are complete, or does the Nokia rep prefer them all at once, as Quim did?21:28
Woody14619b(Did we get a reply back from the questions about contact info?  The current rep apparely likes reply vs reply-all. ;)21:29
Woody14619bI think they're still selecting the winner, but it should happen soon now.21:30
ivgalvezto me it's clear that all they need is Nokia user, name and price21:30
ivgalvezprize21:30
ivgalvezas in the CA21:30
ivgalvezhopefully this will be sorted out in a few days21:30
Woody14619bI had assumed as much, but since we'd asked... sounds like things are going smoothly on thtat.21:31
Woody14619bI have be lax in my duties the past week or two o doing meeting minutes as well... Those will be done and mailed/posted as well soon. (Including this one.)21:32
ivgalvezno worries21:32
Woody14619bTopic 4: Misc?  Anything additional?21:32
ivgalvezwork has been crazy to mee21:32
ivgalvezK. then I assume that our priority as Council should be to create an administrators squad21:32
Woody14619bWell, I like doing what I said I would, so. ;)21:32
SD69you have not been lax woody - very hard working21:32
SD69additional - Nemein21:32
ivgalvezas dealing with Nokia, Nemein and Jolla might be duties for Board21:33
Woody14619bIf it will help the Board to jump-start, then yes.  But it is their task technically.21:33
SD69we offered Henri at Nemein several times for discussion this week, but he never responded21:34
ivgalvezwe have a few volunteers already but we need to start a post/mail/thread to form a trustful group21:34
ivgalvezI can prepare that21:34
Woody14619bAlso, as incorporators, I assume it is our duty to call the first Board meeting to appoint the Directors, yes?21:35
ivgalvezand we need to meet with Reggie, well maybe that's Board again21:35
Woody14619b(Seeing as we three are said three.)21:35
SD69i spoke to our Nokia contact last week21:35
SD69as I understand Reggie, he wants the forum to stay with maemo.org - is my udnerstanding correct?21:35
ivgalvezhopefully yes21:36
ivgalvezbut I'd like to comnment with him21:36
ivgalvezbetter by email21:36
Woody14619bI think he is concerned with the privacy of the info in the forum database...21:36
ivgalvezNFP would be responsible of that21:36
ZogG_laptophey21:36
ivgalvezso it has now a legal backup21:36
Woody14619bWhich is 90% duplicated with info in the Maemo.org infrastructure servers, so...21:36
SD69NFP won't be responsible until maemo.org is transferred21:37
ivgalvezwe can get both TMO and maemo.org as separated entities21:37
Woody14619bHopefully that, and being able to agree to terms legally now will secure that.21:37
Woody14619bhello Zogg. :)21:38
ZogG_laptop:)21:38
Woody14619bSo, Are there any additional Council matters?21:38
ZogG_laptopi think for future use single database21:38
ZogG_laptopwith signle user21:38
Woody14619bAnd as a side note, do we want to setup a date/time for the first Board meeting, or coordinate that through e-mail, or?21:39
ivgalvezbetter by email21:39
ivgalvezto know Texrat and Tim's preferences21:39
ZogG_laptopresults are posted some where?21:39
Woody14619bZogg: X-fade was trying to do that just before things hit the fan....21:39
Woody14619bThe will be on the blog shortly, but are on the vote machine site now.21:40
ZogG_laptopWoody14619b: now more people can have full access21:40
Woody14619bAgreed, once/if transition occurs.  There are still details to work out on that. ;)21:40
ZogG_laptopi hope to see trusted members of community getting more permissions like in any foss project21:40
Woody14619bMe too. :)21:41
ivgalvezthat's the idea21:41
SD69can we go back to Nemein topic?21:41
Woody14619bSure...21:41
ZogG_laptopbtw would be apps4meego closed or transfered? it's hosted there right?21:41
Woody14619bWe need to get a good contact point for them.21:41
ivgalvezNiels has been helpful on elections so I think we can directly contact him to give administration rights to our people21:42
SD69a good contact point for who?21:42
ivgalvezthe only problem for him was that repositories were shared in a machin that had some Nokia stuff21:42
ivgalvezso let's take all that we can now21:42
ZogG_laptop:)21:42
Woody14619bI think that will only occur once the Foundation has formally gotten rights to that from Nokia.21:42
ivgalvezwiki, webpage, etc21:43
ivgalvezin case the problem with repositories (or any other service) continues21:43
ivgalvezwe could replicate in new infrastructure21:43
Woody14619bFor Nemein.  X-Fade is a good technical contact, but for logisticals he's pointing to Henri, who so far has not been responsive, yes?21:43
ivgalveznot yet21:43
SD69not yet from Henri21:44
ZogG_laptopivgalvez: i think we should start to back up but do not give up straight if we don't get everything straight and try to get after21:44
ivgalvezI tried through LinkedIn as well with no response yet21:44
Woody14619bI think it will be easier once we get the green light from Nokia...21:45
ivgalvezWe will need to have a conf or meeting with Nokia21:45
Woody14619bThat would seem to be the next step.  Get the rights from Nokia, at which point the rest of the technical stuff falls in line.21:46
ivgalvezI need to leave now guys, mail me if there is anything else to discuss21:46
ivgalvezcheers21:46
Woody14619bNow funding, hosting, etc... that's a separate battle.21:46
Woody14619bK.21:46
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Woody14619bSo, anything further for Council meeting?  Most of the Board stuff could/should be worked out e-mail anyway, to keep Tim/Randall in the loop.21:47
SD69If anyone ever gets a chance to tlak to Henri at Nemein, we should jump on it.  I fear the delay of that.21:48
SD69The guy at Nokia seemed motivated to help - Henri, no contact yet21:49
Woody14619bI agree.  But I think he may actually be avoiding us until those ducks are in a row.21:49
SD69agreed21:49
Woody14619bFrom a business stand point, until we have the papers in hand, we're the rabble outside. ;)21:50
Woody14619bso, since nothing Council related is left, I'll close the Council meeting.  We can still discuss things futher here if desired...21:51
Woody14619b#end Maemo Council meeting21:51
SD69Ok.  Thanks forthe hard work woody even if he have our differences of opinion21:51
ZogG_laptopthanks guys21:52
Woody14619bYup. :)  Still lots of work do to to get this plane in the air...21:56
Woody14619b(in my case, figurativly and literally....)21:56
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