IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Monday, 2012-07-30

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Woody14619aHi. :)  Just curious, is there going to be an OBS meeting today?  X-Fade:Ping?17:05
X-FadeWoody14619a: Hi17:06
Woody14619aHi there. :)17:07
Woody14619aJust curious what's been going on with OBS.  I was out a week or so on holiday and the world exploded, so. :(17:07
X-FadeNothing happened on my part at least. Not going on vacation, but have been taking the evenings off.17:08
Woody14619aAh. :) OK.  Well, I do need to chat with you on a couple things.  One of them being the mail about giving merlin1991 access (If you've caught up on that e-mail, I've not since the weekend so this may already be done?)17:09
X-FadeI have seen the mail, but not been able to reply or check it out.17:10
X-FadeGiving him access to manage things through the web should be easy though.17:11
X-FadeOn the repository machine itself is a bit more difficult as we haven't migrated that yet. And it is a shared machine atm.17:12
Woody14619aAwesome.  We'll have to try to get a time when you two can sync.  I was hoping he'd be on and could sync up now, but apparears to not be awake from the ping.17:12
Woody14619aWe also have a somewhat more formal request which probably will have to go through e-mail, dealing with the cost of continuing services post Nokia funding.  (eg, numbers on what that would cost)17:14
merlin1991Woody14619a: afaik one only replys to pings if they are direct or contain a question ;)17:14
Woody14619alol :) K. Point taken.  Right now getting merlin1991 up and running is more important than the later question, since we have months for that one to be answered.17:15
X-Fademerlin1991: Do you have time tomorrow in the morning somewhere?17:16
merlin1991should be possible, do you have a specific time in mind?17:16
Woody14619aIn the near future I need to sit down and try to wrap my head around the OBS stuff again and try setting up a mini version on my home server.  I know a few people here can help w/ that, so I won't bug you on that if I can avoid it. :)17:17
X-Fademerlin1991: Around 11 (UTC+2) or so? :)17:17
merlin1991X-Fade: sounds fine17:17
X-Fademerlin1991: Ok, I'll ping you or you ping me if you don't hear from me :D17:17
PaliX-Fade, kernel-power-settings still missing in repositories and kernel-power-[flasher|modules|bootimg|...] missing in package interface17:18
Palican you fix it? or will merlin1991 be able to fix it?17:18
X-FadePali: I removed the settings one, it took a while for it to reindex.17:19
Woody14619aThanks Pali.  That was next on my list. ;)17:19
X-FadePali: But afaik, you should be able to upload it again.17:19
PaliX-Fade, ok I will try to push -settings again now17:19
Woody14619aOne other key question for you X-Fade, while Pali is pushing: I'm pretty sure of the answer to this, but will you be available to setup the voting machine for the Sept elections and coding competition?17:20
X-FadeWoody14619a: Elections, sure. Coding, depends :)17:21
X-FadeLast time the coding competition was done in a special way, need to check how.17:22
Woody14619aK, because they have made an official request to Council to use the machine again, like they did last year.17:22
PaliX-Fadem not working: [2012-07-30 17:22:05] REJECTED: The same or newer version (kernel-power-settings 0.15) is already in extras-devel17:22
X-FadeAnd we need to know how many elections as that those are a bit on the laborintensive side ;)17:23
X-Fadeehm, votings.17:23
X-FadePali: Hmm crap :(17:23
PaliX-Fade, message is not true, 0.15 is not in repository: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power-settings/17:23
X-FadePali: I guess it is still in the Packages index.17:23
Woody14619aIs there something we can do to help setup the vote? I know the machine is opensource, so... if there's docs on creating the vote script, I may be able to help with that and then you can review it vs creating it?17:23
X-FadePali: Needs a complete reindex of the repo then.17:24
PaliX-Fade, see this: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/k/kernel-power-settings/17:24
Palisource is still there17:24
Palibut binary was removed17:24
X-FadeSources always stay.17:24
X-FadeThat way we are always GPL compliant.17:25
X-FadeBut it does not use the source list for the version check.17:25
PaliX-Fade can you reindex it?17:25
X-FadeSigh ;)17:27
merlin1991hm Packages file only has 0.13 and 0.1417:28
merlin1991no 0.15 to be seen there (for armel)17:28
X-FadeYeah, now I don't get it.17:28
* X-Fade mumbers 26MB Packages file wtf :)17:28
X-Fade*mumbels17:28
* merlin1991 mumbels, never cleaning out old package versions17:29
merlin1991s/,// ;)17:30
X-Fademerlin1991: Nope, that is not true. Only 2 versions of every package. It is just the insane concept of huge icons and descriptions inside an index of packages :)17:31
X-FadePali: Would increasing the version number be a lot of work?17:32
Paliand will it work?17:32
X-FadePali: Anything over 0.15 :)17:32
Paliok, I will push version 0.1617:33
merlin1991X-Fade: ie gpodder has 18 versions in the repo17:34
merlin1991http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/g/gpodder/17:34
PaliX-Fade, kernel-power-settings 0.16 uploaded17:34
X-Fademerlin1991: I wonder why. http://maemo.org/packages/view/gpodder/17:36
X-FadeAh, I think I know.17:36
X-Fadeall.deb :)17:36
X-FadeIt might just delete armel and i386 :)17:37
merlin1991well it's a pyhton application, thus it ofc has 1 _all deb for i386 and armel17:37
merlin1991and yep, that sounds like a reasonable cause for this "bug"17:38
PaliX-Fade, compiled: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/kernel-power-settings_0.16/17:39
Woody14619aX-fade Just a quick item as I need to head out soon:  Would me creating the scripts/configs for the voting machine help, or is most of the labor in setting it up?  I can always look at the code (or past scripts if they're available?) and give it a whirl if that's a major time consumer.17:41
X-FadeWoody14619a: There are multiple issues with the voting software, it is also very spammy.17:42
X-FadeIf you want to send out 8 mails for 8 competition items to 50k people, you know what happens :)17:42
Woody14619aahh, well, yes.  Hm... but then we often send things out over a week or so to break that up right? ;)17:44
X-FadeWoody14619a: The amount of people that sent me angry replies about the election mail...17:44
X-FadeNot funny :)17:44
Woody14619asigh... :P17:45
X-FadeI wonder if we can't somehow do a more opt-in approach.17:45
X-FadeOr select people of whom we have seen a sign of life from in the last xxxx amount of time.17:45
PaliX-Fade, 0.16 still missing in repos: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power-settings/17:46
X-FadePali: That is not a live view.17:46
X-FadePali: Think glacial pace, not instant :)17:46
Paliok, I will wait17:46
Woody14619amaybe web page that you can enter your ID/email into that triggers it to send the e-mail with your token?17:46
PaliX-Fade can you also look at kernel-power-flasher|modules|bootimg why still missing in package interface?17:47
Palionly kernel-power was imported: http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/kernel-power/2.6.28-10power51r1/17:48
X-FadePali: Will need to check that tomorrow, I need to leave in a few minutes.17:52
Woody14619aX-Fade, thanks for helping with all this (esp getting merlin1991 setup and Pali's issue resolved. :)  I'm off now, but if there is something I can do to help with things, please do let me know.  Always willing to help with things where I can.17:52
PaliX-Fade, ok, let me know17:52
X-FadeWoody14619a: Ok, I'll reply to your mail. Sorry for the slow reactions lately :(17:53
Woody14619aWe've all been busy... Tis the season apparently. :P17:56
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