IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2021-05-06

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DocScrutinizer05~easydeb03:56
DocScrutinizer05~pkg03:56
infobotrumour has it, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/03:56
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* enyc mewos06:26
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L29Ahohhh so enyc isn't a bot07:19
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enycL29Ah: =)10:04
enycL29Ah: are you a 29Ah lithium battery?10:05
KotCzarnyyou should've seen what he has done to his n90010:06
L29Ahsadly i've lost that photo, and cops have robbed me of my cute n90010:07
L29Ahnow i'm on a plain one and suffer due to short battery life10:07
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DocScrutinizer05well, that's the price to pay for keeping battery hogs like original Hildon desktop and Skype13:49
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DocScrutinizer05or even installing a genuine Debian without power saving patches13:51
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DocScrutinizer05or just keeping WLAN scanning for APs every 5 minutes13:54
L29Ahmy device is idle 99% of time13:55
L29Ahbut pretty stock with cssu13:56
L29Ahmaybe the original flash sucks wrt idle consumption13:57
L29Ahi've lost all my hacks with the device as i didn't back anything up13:57
L29Ahmaybe i should actually try pressing on the cops to get it back13:58
L29Ahas i look into more modern smartphones, it feels like the low power technology went kinda backwards13:59
L29Ahthey feature huge batteries compared to n900 but about the same idle battery time13:59
siceloLarger screens maybe?14:00
KotCzarnythats because android is a fat, hungry pig14:00
L29Ahand they spend it in s2ram (as otherwise the power consumption is exorbitant) while n900 can actually run processes continually14:00
L29Ahsicelo: KotCzarny on PinePhone you have no android, screen is off, but you still waste half a watt or smth on the idling CPU afair14:01
KotCzarnypinephone uses inefficient soc14:01
KotCzarnythat might change once crust gets more mature14:01
KotCzarnybut its a lots of work for smaeul and others14:01
L29AhKotCzarny: ohh, what are they switching to?14:02
KotCzarnycrust is firmware to run on risc core14:03
KotCzarnyie. can put most of the phone to sleep when not needed14:03
L29AhKotCzarny: crust has nothing to do with the main CPU, no?14:03
KotCzarnyyes, see the 'run on the risc core' part14:03
KotCzarnyit communicates with arm cores/os via internal message box14:03
L29Ahthat has to be effectively offline and spends a LOT of time to go to sleep or to wake up, making it useless for continuous tasks, unlike n900 that can run sshd just fine14:04
KotCzarnybut can control almost any hw subsystem14:04
KotCzarnynot necessarily14:04
KotCzarnybut anyway, allwinner isnt the most power efficient soc in the world to start with14:04
KotCzarnystill, one of the few nicely REd14:05
KotCzarnyand supported in mainline linux14:05
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parazydDoes Maemo e.V. hold copyright to the Nokia Gtk themes (alpha/beta)?19:35
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sixwheeledbeastis there some licensing issue with them?20:26
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