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| untakenstupidnic | when i remove the sim the bootloop problem stops happening. the sim card was inside the n900 all the time and i can't imagine any physical damage had been done to it. neither n900 nor another phone i tested could detect it. | 06:26 |
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| untakenstupidnic | the coverage is really low here, if that matters. | 06:27 |
| untakenstupidnic | how could that happen? (the sim not being detected, or the bootloop) | 06:28 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe a problem with the modem? If there's no SIM, it probably won't try doing much with the modem. | 06:30 |
| Maxdamantus | Might be worth adding something to /sbin/preinit that logs kernel messages somewhere, eg `cat /dev/vkmsg >/somewhere &`, probably needs to remount root rw first. | 06:32 |
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| untakenstupidnic | Maxdamantus: any ideas about the undetected sim? i think even if the sim card is expired it still should be detected | 09:12 |
| Maxdamantus | Dunno. | 09:31 |
| KotCzarny | untakenstupidnic: clean the pads on simcard, check if pins in sim slot arent bent (dont bend them), check another sim card | 09:56 |
| inz | I've had one SIM card die while inside N900 | 10:06 |
| inz | It didn't cause bootloops though, just didn't work (in any other phone either) | 10:07 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | odds are the modem? but whereas most people have sim undetected it's causing a bootloop, maybe logs or dmesg would help? | 11:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it a pretty common failpoint for n900s they often require a reflow | 11:24 |
| untakenstupidnic | why would the sim die? :( | 11:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | if a PAYG sim is expired it wouldn't be detected I can confirm that | 11:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | not the sim the modem we are talking about | 11:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh i see | 11:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I can't say I have had a broken sim but it could happen | 11:27 |
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| KotCzarny | doesnt broken modem result in nice yellow bar with a message? | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | not a bootloop, just 'telephony functions disabled' | 11:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | usually | 11:33 |
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| drathir_tor | KotCzarny: yea it does... at boot time warning but device is fully functional despite such fact... | 13:38 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | even if it does it after boot you get the banner | 15:45 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny is right about the yellow bar. It is what i watch every time my n900 boots | 15:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | the banner can happen long after boot tho if it's intermittent. I also recall someone complaining of watchdog kicking in with a modem issue but not getting the banner so I wouldn't rule hardware/modem issue out myself. | 15:56 |
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