IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2020-11-16

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untakenstupidnicis there a way to install stuff on home? n900 bootloops often and i keep losing the programs. you can't make a backup every second.02:01
xmnThere is a home.plugins file I've backup for such situations. /home/user/.config/hildon-desktop02:03
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xmnlets me instantly restore my desktop widgets02:03
xmnif thats what you were talking about02:03
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untakenstupidnicit keeps stuck on boot spontaneously, and it would often be fixed by re-plugging the battery (suggesting it is a non-fatal, mundane problem) but no one seems to know why it happens, so i have to flash it again and again and again and i'm tired of reinstalling all the stuff for some crazy problem in a random system file.02:09
xmndoes it happen on a fresh flash?02:15
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HtheBGuys, is tmo down?02:51
HtheBit gives a database error02:52
xmnconfirmed. Everything else seems to still be fine02:59
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KotCzarnywell, thats new on tmo:07:17
KotCzarnyContent Encoding Error07:17
KotCzarnyThe page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression.07:17
KotCzarnyPlease contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.07:17
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Maxdamantus> MySQL Error   : The table 'vb3_session' is full07:48
MaxdamantusThough I'm interested in why Firefox gets that content encoding error.07:48
MaxdamantusOh, I see.07:53
MaxdamantusContent-Encoding: gzip^M07:53
Maxdamantusbut the response is not gzip.07:53
MaxdamantusAnnoying how Firefox's developer tools behaves with such errors; it just says "No headers for this request", so can't see the request or response headers.07:55
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xesKotCzarny: hi! tmo is up again10:44
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untakenstupidnicwhat caused the problem?11:15
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sixwheeledbeasti am getting "too busy" on tmo11:30
sixwheeledbeastare you sure this bootloop isn't a faulty battery. I mean unless your doing silly things to root I wouldn't expect bootloops to occur. Maybe there is some unusual hardware fault.11:32
infoboti guess bootloop is when your device has broken rootfilesystem, so during reboot it fails on some service startup or kernel module load and thus reboots. This *drains* battery! And you can't reflash to stop bootloop when battery is drained. Recharge your battery by other means before reflashing. E.g. using ~rescueOS. Or external charger or BL-5J compatible other device.11:32
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xesnotice: tmo web service has been stopped while monitoring the storm in progress12:05
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sixwheeledbeastoh maybe broken db? from posts above12:20
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xesnope. storm of requests. At the moment is again active only with https12:27
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bencoh"Dear Frog, This Water Is Now Boiling" <312:49
warfareKotCzarny: doesn't understand OCSP. has a more detailed writeup.13:10
KotCzarnywarfare: idea is its not about ocsp, its about sending it unencrypted, which allows spying by 3rd parties13:11
warfareocsp has to be unencrypted because using a tls connection would require another ocsp request.13:12
KotCzarnywhich essentially makes it privacy hole13:12
warfareWell, you could add some fake ocsp requests, but all in all, you have to start somewhere ;)13:15
MaxdamantusPresumably you could just expect the OCSP server to include a stapled OCSP response.13:27
MaxdamantusI suspect it's not encrypted because there are plenty of other ways of finding that information.13:28
Maxdamantuseg, most obviously SNI, but afaik the server certificate itself is sent unencrypted when establishing a TLS connection.13:29
MaxdamantusI can confirm that at least by default by looking at `strace openssl s_client -connect`13:32
bencohI'm not certain OCSP here refers only to OCSP as we know it in the ssl/tls context13:42
bencohas in, they use it to check dev/app certs/sigs as well13:43
bencohthere is basically no reason to send those requests as plaintext13:43
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warfareThere is. TLS overhead time- and cpuwise. And actually I don't care if my os checks every now and then (because the result is cached) if certain developer certificates are still valid.14:11
warfareAlso, you can't use existing OCSP implementations and would have to roll your own. And thats always a bad idea with anything crypto related.14:12
bencohfor this part they probably 1. implemented by themselves already 2. probably just relay the http(s) request to another layer14:38
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peterleinchenxes, thanks for fixing TMO23:51
peterleinchen(once more)23:51

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