| sicelo | and funny enough, Android's built it calendar has no problem reading the time from N900's vcal files, even though they also don't include timezone info. but on this device (Galaxy S7), the native calendar can't do Tasks, hence OpenTasks, which was suggested by DAVx5 | 00:02 |
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| Maxdamantus | also, I imagine if anything were to not use a particular timezone, it would be an alarm. | 00:03 |
| Maxdamantus | since in general, you just want the alarm to go off at a consistent time in whatever timezone you happen to be in. | 00:04 |
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| sicelo | indeed | 00:07 |
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| doppler | I love it when Android's calendar just like completely fucking fails to notify you of an upcoming event, spontaneously | 00:31 |
| doppler | can you tell I have missed a few appointments because of this? >:( | 00:32 |
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| sicelo | i want to test this on iPhone 5C in the morning. curious to see what'll happen on it | 01:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | PIA acquired by Kape Technologies https://www.technadu.com/kape-technologies-acquire-private-internet-access-vpn-early-2020/85391/ | 11:25 |
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| sicelo | tested syncing tasks with iPhone 5C. so it seems Android/DAVx5/OpenTasks is a bit too pedantic about timezone ... the iPhone shows the tasks with the correct date. just no alarm (which i don't mind too much) | 12:50 |
| buZz | sixwheeledbeast: oh gee, wonder if Andrew is gonna sell freenode to some faceless tech company aswell | 12:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I suppose the concern is Kape Techs history | 12:52 |
| sicelo | is DocScrutinizer05 still with PIA? | 12:53 |
| KotCzarny | freenode has a commercial value? | 12:53 |
| buZz | the data does | 12:53 |
| buZz | the network doesnt | 12:53 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Indeed I could see fake AI bots leaning the conversation on topics I believe that goes on in other platforms | 12:55 |
| buZz | GPT-2 trained on someone's irc text would be a -very- good basis for identity copying | 12:56 |
| buZz | or theft | 12:57 |
| sicelo | silly q - isn't that data already easily accessible? | 12:57 |
| KotCzarny | depending on 'easily' | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | i think freenode has channels limit | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | so you just cant join all | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | and also has a policy against bots | 12:59 |
| buZz | yeah i hit that limit a bunch of times | 12:59 |
| buZz | if you can read along on the serverside, there would be lower chance of people noticing | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | sure, nsa probably has it's own freenode connection | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | but commercial entrepeneurs dont | 13:00 |
| buZz | like andrew lee? | 13:00 |
| KotCzarny | who is that? | 13:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sicelo: The issue is it being done internally by a company not just by any random bot. | 13:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Freenodes owner? | 13:01 |
| buZz | KotCzarny: andrew lee is korean prince that owns Londontrustmedia who owns PIA and Freenode and some NYC brothel and some wrestling stuff | 13:02 |
| buZz | and a house in LA that looks like its been in >50% of porn movies | 13:02 |
| KotCzarny | irc can generate a lot of data, so he probably has to partner with some company for data processing | 13:02 |
| buZz | he owns a ton of companies | 13:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | The other thing is if an IRC network became out of favour then you can always move to another it's not proprietary | 13:05 |
| buZz | yeah OFTC is still voluntary run | 13:05 |
| buZz | and not owned by some single royalty company | 13:05 |
| KotCzarny | thing is that freenode became de facto standard for development/projects support | 13:07 |
| KotCzarny | and cooperation | 13:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | People that use IRC now are more tech knowledgable so upsetting them may lead to mass migration and therefore nothing to monitor. It's probably a lose lose situation. | 13:07 |
| buZz | sixwheeledbeast: yeah i think andrew didnt think it through | 13:08 |
| buZz | he also owns kiwiirc btc | 13:08 |
| KotCzarny | thing is, its not that easy to migrate | 13:11 |
| KotCzarny | and it all depends on cost calculation | 13:11 |
| KotCzarny | if there is money to gain from selling data that will make up for the cost of the network, guess what will happen | 13:11 |
| buZz | so you're argueing the data is already being sold a lot | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | isnt it? | 13:12 |
| buZz | and the commercial owner of freenode cant proof anything to guarantee it doesnt happen | 13:12 |
| buZz | so when is #maemo moving to OFTC? | 13:13 |
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