IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2019-08-17

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brolin_empeyIs there a somewhat recent fanless stationary x86-64 computer that can have at least 8 GiB or, preferably, at least 16 GiB of main memory?05:21
brolin_empeyI ask because it seems to me that the main reason I still use a microATX or larger motherboard in a computer with at least one fan is because I want to use a fanless video card that needs a PCI Express ×16 slot but I rarely play any computer game any more so I guess the only reason I need such a video card is to simultaneously and independently drive three video monitors but maybe I could still have triple-head capability including one 3840×2160 video05:27
brolin_empeymonitor with a small, fanless x86-64 computer but I want at least 8 GiB, preferably at least 16 GiB, of main memory.05:27
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MaxdamantusWhy do you want a graphics card at all?06:16
* Maxdamantus uses three monitors on integrated graphics.06:16
Maxdamantus5120×108006:17
MaxdamantusMaybe having a 3840×2160 monitor is significant, dunno.06:17
MaxdamantusBased on the specifications here: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75043/intel-core-i5-4570-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html , the "max resolutions" must apply to individual monitors, not total output, since my total horizontal resolution is 512006:21
Maxdamantus(those are the specifications for my CPU)06:21
Maxdamantusnote: my monitors are 1920×1080 (HDMI), 1920×1080 (DVI), 1280×1024 (VGA)06:24
* Maxdamantus imagines newer CPUs/motherboards would support three outputs without requiring one of them be VGA06:25
brolin_empeyI still use Core 2 era computers.  The video controller integrated on the motherboard is not UHD capable and only has one output for one video monitor.06:31
MaxdamantusRight, but presumably you're wanting to get something more recent, since you said "somewhat recent"06:32
brolin_empeyApparently DFI makes a fanless Nehalem era or later stationary computer that can use the fanless PCI Express video card I currently use but DFI never replied to my request for quantity=1 pricing and I did not spend more time trying to find pricing, such as from a distributor/reseller.06:35
brolin_empeyI do not need a newer/faster than Core 2 computer but I want a fanless computer and, ideallly, with non-volatile main memory too.06:37
MaxdamantusPresumably if price is a concern, wouldn't it be more effectively to just buy second-hand parts?06:38
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brolin_empeyI doubt that I could find this type of fanless industrial computer for sale used.  I have not even found it for sale new.06:40
MaxdamantusIf you buy parts you can just mix and match things to get what you want.06:41
Maxdamantuseg, there aren't really any CPUs that are particularly made to be fanless. You just get a passive heatsink and put it into a conventional CPU.06:42
brolin_empeyIt has RS485 and other specialised industrial stuff that I do not need but it is fanless, supports up to at least 16 or 32 GiB of main memory, and can use a “desktop” video card that uses a PCI Express ×16 slot.  It has a specially designed metal chassis/case so it can be completely fanless.06:44
MaxdamantusOkay, but is the motherboard special?06:45
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MaxdamantusThe usual components categorisation site used here has a category for fanless cases (though there are only currently three cases in the category): https://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=v222906:57
brolin_empeyApparently they are DFI models EC511-SD and EC511-HD.  They are sold as a single product with the motherboard in the case.07:42
brolin_empeyhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170209124143/http://www.dfi-itox.com/products/product.php?productId=1000507:44
brolin_empeyThe other model was at http://www.dfi-itox.com/products/product.php?productId=10074 but this page is gone from the live Internet and is not in the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.07:44
brolin_empeyHere is one of them on the current DFI Web site:07:54
brolin_empeyhttps://estore.dfi.com/index.php/ec510-ec511-hd.html07:54
brolin_empeyApparently it sells for around 686 dollars, presumably USD but lots of countries use a currency named dollar, including Taiwan, the home country of DFI.07:54
brolin_empeyHere is the other model on the current DFI Web site but without any pricing:08:01
brolin_empeyhttps://us.dfi.com/Product/Index/12708:01
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sixwheeledbeast~beasttweaks21:37
infobotmethinks beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts21:37
sixwheeledbeastcan I add a wlan connection with gconftool? Seems there is some connection UUID?21:39
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