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| Enrico_Menotti | Hello. Today I tried to connect my N900 to my BMW via bluetooth for making hands-free phone calls. I succeeded in connecting (after a few trials) and making a call with good quality, but when I hang up the BMW iDrive system hangs as well... the call is closed properly, but iDrive doesn't exit from the call mode, and eventually, after a couple of minutes, reboots (!). | 01:00 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | With my gf smartphone, a Wiko Jerry, I never encountered any problem. | 01:00 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | Did anybody face a similar issue? Once I heard from freemangordon that he owns a BMW as well. | 01:01 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | Or well, if nobody encountered this, however do you have any idea on how to troubleshoot? | 02:04 |
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| sicelo | Enrico_Menotti: there were definitely lots of issues with N900 bluetooth performance. search tmo for bmw related posts. it seems some worked, some didn't | 07:58 |
| sicelo | bug #8246 has some hints on troubleshooting | 08:00 |
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| sicelo | i was going to add, but i see it's hinted in the last comment of that bug, that while N900 definitely has issues, it doesn't mean the BMW software is 'innocent' either | 08:03 |
| sicelo | what gets rebooted? N900, or BMW? | 08:05 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | BMW | 08:27 |
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| Vajb | engine reboots while driving :p | 08:49 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | Not the engine, just the iDrive. :P | 08:59 |
| Enrico_Menotti | (With the car audio.) | 08:59 |
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| sicelo | yes, i mean't that one :-P | 09:08 |
| sicelo | anyway,sounds like it also has its own bugs - surely it shouldn't reboot when a 'buggy' device connects to it | 09:09 |
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| freemangordon | Enrico_Menotti: Bluetooth on my F22 (not sure about the version, however it should be the latest or close to that) has issues as well when n900 is connected to it. However it doesn't look like n900 is to blame. | 09:23 |
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| freemangordon | never seen it rebooting though | 09:24 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | F30 2012 here. I will try to report here the iDrive version. | 09:24 |
| freemangordon | the major issue I have with it is that when music plays and I receive a phone call, I cannot resume the music playback after call is completed, no matter what I do | 09:24 |
| freemangordon | it is not iDriver version that matters | 09:25 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Yeah, it's what happens to me, but in the end the iDrive reboots and music starts again. | 09:25 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Why not? | 09:25 |
| freemangordon | multimedia has its own version, at least in my car | 09:25 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Ah. | 09:25 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Don't know where to find it. | 09:26 |
| freemangordon | not sure where it was burried in the menus, sorry | 09:26 |
| freemangordon | does your car support SW upgrade through USB? | 09:26 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Maybe what reboots is just the multimedia. In any case, after completing the phone call I have no audio, I'm able to navigate on the car's screen, but after a while the screen shuts down, the BMW logo appears, music is back, and a bit later the multimedia is back. | 09:27 |
| Enrico_Menotti | (Re-connecting the phone via bt.) | 09:27 |
| freemangordon | if yes, you may check https://www.bmw.com/en/footer/software-updates.html if there is a newer version for your car | 09:28 |
| freemangordon | otherwise, go to BMW dealer to check if there is a newer version of the SW | 09:28 |
| Enrico_Menotti | I think my car supports sw upgrade. I found lots of things about its OS, but didn't want to try messing with it yet, since I don't want to run the risk of being left on my own feet. :P | 09:28 |
| freemangordon | go to a dealer, they will upgrade the software | 09:29 |
| Enrico_Menotti | In any case, since with my gf smartphone I have no pb, I think there's same guilt also on the N900 side. | 09:29 |
| freemangordon | no, it is BMW (or rather the company that made multimedia part) to blame | 09:30 |
| freemangordon | my n900 has no issues at all with my other car (year 2015 seat ibiza) | 09:31 |
| Enrico_Menotti | But why with the Wiko Jerry it works? | 09:31 |
| freemangordon | no idea, however, trust me on that one, BT in BMW multimedia is buggy | 09:32 |
| Enrico_Menotti | That's for sure, since it reboots... | 09:32 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 09:32 |
| freemangordon | so, why n900 triggers a bug... does it matter? | 09:33 |
| freemangordon | anyway you can;t fix it, your only chance is upgraded SW in the car. And since you don;t want to risk screwing it, just go to a BMW dealer to upgrade the car SW. | 09:34 |
| freemangordon | that's your best bet | 09:34 |
| freemangordon | have to run, bye | 09:34 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | Ok, thanks a lot. Have a nice day. | 09:35 |
| Vajb | about playback after call ends. I have bluetooth headet and sometimes after a call it plays about a second then pauses for maybe ten seconds and after that starts playing normally | 09:38 |
| Vajb | headset* | 09:38 |
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| sicelo | nice cars both of you :) | 09:41 |
| Enrico_Menotti | :( | 09:42 |
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| Wikiwide | I am currently way too interested in eInk+Amoled combination. So, looking at... http://gearburn.com/2017/04/3-smartphones-that-feature-e-ink-displays/ Is any of the devices likely to run Maemo Leste? I don't expect so, but I do not know much about CPU/GPU compatibility with... | 13:31 |
| Wikiwide | eInk tablet, with Wacom stylus... https://phoneradar.com/remarkable-e-ink-paper-tablet-could-replace-your-notebooks-sketchbooks-printouts/ Could it run Maemo Leste? | 13:38 |
| Wikiwide | This one is fascinating, as well - 800x480 3.5in TFT display... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyocera_Echo | 13:41 |
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| Wikiwide | This one is interesting, as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_%26_Noble_Nook_1st_Edition 667MHz ARMv6? Sounds ancient. Like Maemo 4? | 13:54 |
| Wikiwide | 3.5in 480x144 has interesting proportions, 10:3? | 13:56 |
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| joga | somewhat unrelated but I heard that waveshare released a bit bigger display (that you can fairly easily interface with stuff) https://www.waveshare.com/wiki/9.7inch_e-Paper_HAT which has a decent refresh times even along with decent resolution etc... dunno anything else about it though | 13:58 |
| Wikiwide | Hat, intended to be used with Raspberry Pi? | 13:59 |
| joga | yeah, that one is at least, you can get the panel itself too if you wan't to drive it yourself | 13:59 |
| Wikiwide | Is there any Raspberry Pi which is not HDMI-compatible? Because I happen to dislike HDMI | 13:59 |
| joga | the hat wouldn't use HDMI | 14:00 |
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| Wikiwide | Hmm, thank you :-) I might end up assembling a prototype tablet myself, though I would have preferred finding a ready-to-go device. | 14:01 |
| joga | (the only hdmi e-ink "displays" I've seen are the very expensive tablet things that happen to support using them as an external display) | 14:01 |
| joga | (plus even more expensive standalone displays) | 14:01 |
| Wikiwide | I just don't want to pay Raspberry to pay HDMI for permission to use HDMI connector on Raspberry Pi. | 14:02 |
| joga | tough ;) | 14:02 |
| joga | there are alternatives surely, the rpi is just the most popular so usually less hassle to implement stuff | 14:03 |
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| Wikiwide | There is an open-source Allwinner board somewhere, Maemo Leste can run on it? Just, I would have to assemble a device manually, finding parts and such for it :-/ | 14:04 |
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| bencoh | wikiwide really need a way to stay connected to irc.... :( | 14:44 |
| bencoh | for the record, there is maemo-leste work ongoing on some allwinner board/tablet | 14:44 |
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| Vajb | second time when my device didn't accept any input after issuing pnatd. Im afraid this device is soon to be dead | 15:39 |
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| sicelo | what do you mean Vajb | 21:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | bencoh: Wikiwide has other accounts and may pick up the conversation later due to timezones. | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | did anybody mention the ThreadX MarvelWiFi exploit already? | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>“This vulnerability can be triggered without user interaction during the scanning for available networks. This procedure is launched every 5 minutes regardless of a device being connected to some Wi-Fi network or not. That’s why this bug is so cool and provides an opportunity to exploit devices literally with zero-click interaction at any state of wireless connection (even when a device isn’t connected to any network).”<< | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://securityboulevard.com/2019/01/wi-fi-chip-firmware-flaws-enable-over-the-air-hacking/ | 21:22 |
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| Vajb | sicelo: I meant that when I sign in as root and write "pnatd" it opens pnatd console and I cant type for example "AT+CFUN...". Now it has been like pnatd console opens, but I can't write anything in it. | 22:48 |
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