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| brolin_empey | N9 power question: The general suggestion seems to be to remove or disconnect the battery but I guess from the context that the battery is difficult to access on the N9? | 07:58 |
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| brolin_empey | The topic of this channel used to direct N9/Harmattan questions to a different channel but someone (DocScrutinizer05?) recently removed this part from the topic. | 08:00 |
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| brolin_empey | DocScrutinizer05: How about setting a custom label for your swap space and writing this label on the drive containing this swap space? If I recall correctly, you can identify swap space by the label in both the fstab file and as an argument to the swapon program. | 08:02 |
| brolin_empey | You could even use part of the UUID that is sufficiently short for you to memorise as the label. | 08:02 |
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| Maxdamantus | The battery is difficult to access on the N9. Have to open the actual case. | 08:08 |
| brolin_empey | Does opening the case require more than fingers? | 08:12 |
| Maxdamantus | Yes. | 08:15 |
| Maxdamantus | I haven't done it, but there's no "removable" back cover. | 08:16 |
| brolin_empey | On the Samsung notebook computer of my father, removing the battery (that powers the whole computer, not the clock battery) requires removing screws to disassemble the computer but the bottom of the case has a hole to temporarily disconnect the battery, like the reset switch on some computer cases where you have to stick something long and narrow in the hole to press the switch. Well, strictly speaking, the clock is probably powered by a cell, not a battery | 08:17 |
| brolin_empey | , so I guess referring to the battery of the notebook computer is unambiguous if you know enough about the electronics. | 08:17 |
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| brolin_empey | Speaking of notebook computers, has Apple finally abandoned IEEE 1394 because having it requires additional hardware because the Intel hardware platform Apple uses for Apple x86 computers does not include IEEE 1394? | 08:20 |
| brolin_empey | USB 3.x seems to make IEEE 1394 irrelevant for many purposes. IEEE 1394B was dramatically faster than High-speed USB but SuperSpeed USB made IEEE 1394 irrelevant if you wanted to use IEEE 1394 only because it was faster than High-speed USB. | 08:24 |
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| brolin_empey | I mean faster as in throughput for file transfers. | 08:26 |
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| sicelo | my main N900 does not detect a wifi network where my second (broken modem) N900 'sees' one | 08:38 |
| sicelo | what could be the issue? | 08:38 |
| KotCzarny | same os? | 08:39 |
| brolin_empey | sicelo: Non-broadcast SSID? Wireless LAN uses a channel/frequency out of the range of the current regulatory domain for the Wireless LAN controller? | 08:40 |
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| sicelo | well the 2nd N900 is running leste .. but the driver is the same, of course | 08:41 |
| sicelo | and i'm using wpa_supplicant on both (the network is WPA-EAP) | 08:41 |
| KotCzarny | you can try running wpa_supplicant without -B and with debug: -d | 08:41 |
| sicelo | yes, i did. it just says no AP :) | 08:42 |
| brolin_empey | Some software does not show a Wireless LAN if the network does not broadcast/volunteer its SSID, which is like not seeing a person because you do not know their name. | 08:42 |
| KotCzarny | it will show networks/aps it sees and some more info | 08:42 |
| sicelo | this is the only network, and it doesn't see it ... so that's why it says No AP | 08:43 |
| sicelo | brolin_empey: the SSID is not hidden, and as mentioned, the other N900 sees the network | 08:44 |
| KotCzarny | i dont remember if n900 supports: iwlist scan | 08:44 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it does on leste | 08:44 |
| brolin_empey | sicelo: Is the regulatory domain for the Wireless LAN controller the same for both computers? | 08:45 |
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| brolin_empey | Is the firmware for the Wireless LAN controller loaded by the OS? If yes then maybe the version of the firmware is different between the computers? Actually, I guess the version could be different even if the firmware is loaded independently of the OS. | 08:47 |
| sicelo | it's as if the other N900 is weak - i can connect when very close to the AP | 08:49 |
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| brolin_empey | Antenna is different between the computers? Does the N900 have an antenna for the Wireless LAN controller that is not part of the IC itself? | 08:50 |
| sicelo | both are N900, recall | 08:51 |
| brolin_empey | Yes but maybe the Wireless LAN controller is supposed to have an external antenna that is no longer connected? | 08:52 |
| brolin_empey | External as in outside of the IC or whatever is the package of the Wireless LAN controller on the circuit board. | 08:53 |
| sicelo | maybe i have bad contacts | 08:56 |
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| Maxdamantus | The N900 has such an external antenna, yes. | 09:15 |
| Maxdamantus | You can take it off just by unscrewing something under the backcover iirc | 09:16 |
| Maxdamantus | Actually, I don't know if that's the wifi antenna or cellular antenna or both. | 09:16 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, i have a problem with fmms, it doesnt automatically connect to mms apn (works when i manually connect to it then open fmms) | 12:40 |
| KotCzarny | anyone else noticed it? | 12:42 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | You tried the different settings in FMMS? | 13:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | i need to use the more aggressive settings to get them but i rarely get FMMS now. I had one in a year and that went to the Blackberry | 13:03 |
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| KotCzarny | which settings? | 13:05 |
| KotCzarny | 'network mode' ? | 13:06 |
| KotCzarny | heh, might be the right track | 13:08 |
| KotCzarny | setting to 'rude' it at least tried to connect | 13:08 |
| KotCzarny | but didnt wait long enough for connection to come up | 13:08 |
| KotCzarny | which eventually did but fmms timed out before that | 13:08 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | i think i used Havoc ? | 13:43 |
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| KotCzarny | mhm, seems to be working with havoc | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | thanks! | 14:05 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | np, i recall going through the same thing a few years ago. | 16:01 |
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| bleb | anyone here have links to resources for s60? | 19:36 |
| bleb | like guides for practical use of nokia s60 phones in 2018 | 19:36 |
| bleb | for example i heard you can install google maps on it if you disable some certificate checking, idk how to do that | 19:37 |
| bleb | and theres no obvious place for where to get that info | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | unless you are emotionally attached, just grab n900 or any second hand android | 19:37 |
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| bleb | KotCzarny: i hate touch screens | 19:39 |
| bleb | thats the reason | 19:39 |
| bleb | i know n900 has a keyboard but you have to touch the screen | 19:40 |
| sicelo | tthe java client of google maps still works :p | 19:43 |
| sicelo | even on N900 | 19:43 |
| sicelo | by java i mean, j2me | 19:43 |
| sicelo | anyway S60 ... what phone do you have? | 19:44 |
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| KotCzarny | bleb, i bet you can write fully kb controllable ui replacements | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | for n900 | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | in python for example | 19:46 |
| bleb | but then why wouldnt i just use my e52 | 19:52 |
| KotCzarny | because n900 is so much nicer | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | and awesomer | 19:53 |
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| bleb | i mean it can do more | 19:57 |
| bleb | but i have a computer if i want to do more | 19:57 |
| sicelo | there was some website dedicated to symbian somewhere .. but i forgot it | 19:57 |
| bleb | i just want a phone that will get out of my face but that will let me look up practical things like the location of a restaurant | 19:57 |
| bleb | so i'm considering the e52 for that | 19:58 |
| bleb | my-symbian.com looks kinda good | 19:58 |
| bleb | its just hard to tell what is a good site and what is trash | 19:59 |
| sicelo | there's a newer one ... if i find it i will tell you | 19:59 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | bleb: blackberry bold? | 20:07 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | as an alternative to your s60 idea | 20:08 |
| bleb | sixwheeledbeast^: i haven't looked into that too much | 20:09 |
| bleb | but its definitely an option | 20:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | its what i am using for work at the moment. much nicer to have an N900/BB than two N900's in your pocket. | 20:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | plus i get a good quality hw keyboard on both devices. | 20:09 |
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| bleb | sixwheeledbeast^: do those blackberries have working google maps? | 20:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | have a browser | 20:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | i have offline routing on my N900 for that task so never tried | 20:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | plus i prefer a paper map most of time if it's a place i don't know | 20:11 |
| bleb | yeah you can definitely live without it | 20:12 |
| bleb | i just feel weird if i'm on my way somewhere and someone says "actually come to this place" and i have to ask for the street address because my car's gps doesn't have the names of establishments, only addresses | 20:13 |
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| sicelo | then the j2me gmaps might just be enough for you | 20:16 |
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| bleb | wellll it looks like it might be hard to use data on the e52 | 22:28 |
| bleb | ting has 2g data but only for texting, not for stuff like gmaps | 22:29 |
| bleb | i wonder if there is any u.s. carrier that will provide data over 2g.... | 22:30 |
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