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brolin_empeyI carry a 128-GB USB SSD in my wallet/clutch but this drive uses VFAT32, which limits the maximum size of a file to 2 GiB, which is increasingly becoming a First-World problem because it means I have to bring a 1.5-TB USB HDD that uses NTFS from my office when I want to copy a >2-GiB file via sneakernet.  If I reformat my USB SSD as NTFS, am I likely to use a platform that lacks NTFS support?  I do not use Apple platforms but I use Android 4.4 as distributed10:03
brolin_empey by Samsung.  Do Android computers usually support NTFS?  I will check if my handheld computer running Android can access the NTFS volume on my USB HDD when I am back at my office tomorrow (Monday).10:03
brolin_empeyI realise that I can split and join a >2-GiB file to work around the VFAT maximum file size limitation but I cannot be bothered because it does not seem worthwhile because I am working around a limitation caused by still using a disk file system from 1996 (VFAT32 was introduced by Windows 95 OSR2 from 1996?) on a 128-GB flash memory device in 2018.10:15
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MaxdamantusWhy not just have two partitions on the SSD?10:16
Maxdamantusone for FAT32 and the other for NTFS.10:16
brolin_empeyBecause if I still use a platform that lacks NTFS support then I may not know which files from the NTFS volume I will need to use on a platform that lacks NTFS support?10:20
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brolin_empeyIronically, I said that I do not use Apple platforms but the >2-GiB file I cannot copy this time is the virtual HDD file of my virtual Hackintosh for running Mac OS X 10.6 in VirtualBox. :-D10:23
brolin_empeyI ran “# find / -iname '*ntfs*'” on my handheld computer, will see what I find.10:39
brolin_empeyNothing.  Heh.  Does that indicate that this Android installation lacks NTFS support even though NTFS may actually be older than Linux if you include use within Microsoft whilst Windows NT 3.1 was still being developed before the final release in 1993?10:42
brolin_empeyI guess Android may ship without NTFS support due to software patents?  I recall reading something about that years ago.10:42
brolin_empeyJudging by /proc/filesystems , this Android installation supports exfat but not ntfs?  How far back can exfat support be retrofitted onto Windows NT?  Even Windows 2000 shipped in late 1999 with NTFS support and generic USB Mass Storage support.10:49
brolin_empeyIt seems like the pragmatic compromise in this case is to buy another >=120-GB USB SSD to format as NTFS and keep in my wallet/clutch for copying >2-GiB files via sneakernet.10:53
KotCzarnyntfs in kernel isnt very good10:55
KotCzarnyusuall way is ntfs-3g via fuse10:55
KotCzarnythats why no android ntfs10:55
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brolin_empeyOr just continue using my current workaround, which works but I do not carry the USB HDD with me except when I need it because it is too heavy and bulky compared to a USB SSD.  Too heavy and bulky?  Add a crap TN AMLCD panel and it sounds like a notebook computer. :-P10:56
KotCzarnyor stop using android10:57
brolin_empeyAnd use what?  Debian on a Gemini?  I will definitely not replace my Galaxy Note 3 with an N900 running any OS.10:59
KotCzarnygo and live in the woods10:59
KotCzarnywould solve a lot of problems10:59
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brolin_empeyI already reside in a building made partially of wood. :-P  The street outside is lined with trees.11:01
KotCzarnynot far enough11:02
brolin_empeyOne of the main streets in Vancouver is named Oak Street.  Does that count?11:03
KotCzarnynot woody enough11:03
KotCzarnythere are no streets in the woods11:03
brolin_empeyI have an HDD that contains an installation of Debian GNU+Linux 3, which is codenamed woody.11:05
KotCzarnythere are no penguins in the woods11:05
brolin_empeyThere are bears in the forrest, though, and I use Microsoft Windows.11:06
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KotCzarnythere are no windows in the woods11:06
brolin_empeyLinus Torvalds lives in Oregon last I checked, so are you certain there are no penguins in the forrest?11:07
KotCzarnyvirtual penguins dont count11:08
brolin_empeyDo they wave a Zero Flag?11:09
brolin_empeyI reside near a lumber yard.  Does that count?11:10
KotCzarnycloser, but not close enough11:11
brolin_empeyI was involved with the Apache Forrest project.  Does that count?  I did not use Forrest on woody, though.11:12
KotCzarnycant comment on that, although there were apache members in the forest long time ago11:13
brolin_empeyDoes Tim Berners-Lee have a family web instead of a family tree?11:14
KotCzarnybearners11:15
brolin_empeyHe did not bear his children, though, his first wife, Nancy, did.11:16
brolin_empeyThe second comma should be a semicolon.11:17
KotCzarnynope11:17
KotCzarnyfirst comma shouldn't be there probably11:17
brolin_empeyIs a semicolon less shitty than a colon?11:18
KotCzarnysix wheeled colon11:19
brolin_empeyNancy missed her period at least twice because she bore two children for Tim.11:19
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brolin_empeyDoes a Commodore brand of filing cabinet contain a paper file system?11:23
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brolin_empeyI have A4 paper even though I live in Canada and my company has an (Audi) A4.11:25
brolin_empeyThere are Windows and windows in Woodinville, which is near Bellevue and Redmond, which is where Windows was made.11:36
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brolin_empeyPKWARE has and Phil Katz had at least two types of ZIP code.11:38
brolin_empeyDid Robert Prince use Texas Instruments to compose soundtracks for Id Software?11:41
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Vajbare Texas Instruments Colt pistols and such?13:29
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Vajband if I have several different webs and I use Dijkstra's algorithm to get minimum spanning tree from each. Does the end result count as forest?13:32
brolin_empeyIf you have a member of a certain series of Ford pick-up truck in a wooded area, do you have a forest Ranger?13:36
brolin_empeyOr a player character from the Quake series?13:37
brolin_empeyDijkstra is dead so maybe you reach a dead tree?13:40
brolin_empeyKnuth is still alive but is very old.13:41
brolin_empeyThe Foxconn and the Grapes?13:42
brolin_empeySoftware that manages contacts as in persons should have a standard field for date of death in addition to date of birth.13:44
brolin_empeyThen it could ask you if you try to contact a contact who is recorded as dead.13:45
brolin_empeyThe ironic reality is that I currently or at least used to hold AAPL shares bought on my behalf, which says that Apple Inc. is economically valuable to me even though I do not use their products and avoid giving them any money.13:49
brolin_empeyI use the CUPS but I have used it since before Apple bought it or bought all of Easy Software Products (?).  Or merged with?13:51
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DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: seems your nick got hijacked by a spambot, the version that posts random citations without any context or meaning14:06
DocScrutinizer05please pm me to have +q lifted14:06
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